If we lose this election

[chrislrob]

NO ONE will ever convince me that it didn't have something to do with images like the one that headlines Drudge right now.

Why doesn't the Kerry campaign do something about THK's image? Or hell, why don't they do something about HER?!

She is such a huge distraction and all of it is negative. The press doesn't like her. And everytime she opens her mouth she says something stupid or bizzare or irrelevant that floats around for a couple of new cycles, usually to the detriment of whatever good news there is out there about Kerry that day.

Case in point: What is the biggest knock on Kerry? That he is too rich and cultured to understand common folk. But yesterday the stories were all about how Kerry went goose hunting and said he could barely focus he was so excited about the Red Sox win. Now I don't care for hunting--or baseball--but a lot of people do. A lot of undecided people. And we need them.

Even that scumbag Drudge had Kerry's hunting pic up most of the day yesterday. What does it get replaced by? THK drinking beer in broad daylight looking like she's on the backside of a two-day bender.

Geez Louise! Just since I've been typing this they've put up more pics!!!

And take a look at the story entitled "First Lady of Fun!":
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20041022-120846-3334r.htm

[July]

1. Why do you check out Drudge and the Washington Times?

They are predictable, and a waste of your time.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

2. You know who actually reads Drudge?

Typically only freepers, but definitely only people with an already formed opinion on whom they are voting for. Don't worry about Sludge.

[madmax]

3. We aren't going to lose. n/t

[Lefta Dissenter]

4. If we lose this election

it will be from people spending too much time at Drudge :eyes:

I happen to respect and admire our future first lady, and I like the fact that John Kerry considers an outspoken, free-thinking woman to be stimulating and sexy.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

5. relax

The American people are waking up, IMHO, and will see attacks at THK as what they are: pathetic events to distract from *'s disastrous record by using trivia and distortion. I really doubt this election could be lost on such a non-issue when things are the way they are. BTW, stop reading Drudge and the Moonie Times. They rot brains and distort perspective.

[TimeToGo]

13. It doesn't mean much

It is true, as I have said before, the Kerry campaign must realize that the press is not its friend, and they have to act accordingly. But that said, I agree with the posts above. Earlier today, he had a post showing Kerry in camos with a quotation from Cheney indicating that he was hiding or some such. It was totally silly, and will appeal only to those who are true believers of Bush.

But I do disagree with those who say we should not monitor it -- I think we have to monitor all these kinds of sites as well as Fox and all the cable shows. We have to know what they are saying or we won't be able to combat it if it gets legs. Plus we must let them know we are watching and will make our voice known. Whenever I see something like that on Drudge (or anywhere else like that) I immediately email him with a comment and a suggestion for a different way of looking at it. I also regularly send articles and stories from around the world that show a perspective different from his own. They have to know that there are different views out there and we are not going to be silent.

[Wat_Tyler]

6. Yes. Let's blame someone who isn't running for office.

That's a good idea.

[WI_DEM]

7. If we lose because of THK very mild comment and about Kerry

defending Mary Cheney in the third debate and ignore Pat Robertson's comment about Bush saying no casulaties would come from this war and his big LIE about it being an "exaggeration" about not being concerned about bin-laden--then we are in a hell of a mess. The media has chosen to highlight these small gaffes (if they are even that) while downplaying more important issues involving Bush.

[secular_warrior]

8. I hate to say this - but she's a pain in the ass for us.

We can't be dealing with this SHIT now. Nobody in this fucking campaign seems to understand the need to keep Teresa under control until the fucking votes are counted and Kerry gives his victory speech.

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[secular_warrior]

22. Oh spare me. She is not politically equal to Kerry - he is the candidate.

If Kerry were the spouse and she were the candidate I would say the SAME thing.

I don't have to prove my liberalism to you.

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[secular_warrior]

35. Catfight, I apologize if I offended you.

I meant no disrespect to her as a wife, equal partner or woman. I'm talking about her - as I do any of these people - as a political figure in a campaign, without regard for sex, gender, race, age, whatever.

I like THK and women like her - I wouldn't be a Democrat if I didn't. But she (as a politically figure) has given me a lot of stress over the past few days. The original poster's point was very valid - some of THK's recent comments/appearances are wasting precious news cycles, where the focus should be on the campaign and the message and beating Bush.

[Catfight]

50. You didn't offend me, but the other poster did. Thanks for the concern.

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[still_one]

9. People's kids are getting killed in a war based on a LIE

THK is NOT the president, she isn't responsible for the net job loss, for preventing drugs from being imported from Candada, for ignoring all the warnings prior to 9/11, for a Supreme Court that will be chosen that will change civil and reproductives rights for the next 20 years

bush has killed 1107 Americans in Iraq, wounded over 8000, and killed 30000 to 50000 civilians in Iraq

Who gives a damn about Drudge?

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[secular_warrior]

16. Regardless of post count, the poster's point is very relevant. (eom)

[Forkboy]

26. Not really

[KurtNYC]

11. In the grand scheme of things

Drudge doesn't matter one twit. Nor does the Moonie Times.

The less time spent thinking about their hateful, unbalanced propaganda the better.

Can I recommend some other sources: AAR,
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/
http://www.democrats.com/
http://rawstory.com/

[mikehiggins]

12. Okay. The most important election in your life is going to be

determined by TK drinking a beer?

Nothing is going to change anything between now and election day.

The people voting Bush are going to vote Bush.

The people voting Kerry are going to vote Kerry.

The undecideds will not make up their minds based on TK.

So she's a bossy, brassy babe. Maybe that'll be good considering the last several first ladies. At any rate, nobody is voting for her and nobody with a brain is going to vote for Bush because of her.

The bad guys are trolling their bait and you seem to have swallowed it, hook, line and sinker.

Lighten up.

Oh, and I doubt anyone on this board pays any attention to the Washington Times. Any paper owned by Reverend Moon is just as corrupt as the ones owned by Rupert Murdoch.

[still_one]

17. Our ace in the whole

is the newly registered voters, the undecided, and the 18-24 year old voters

JOHN KERRY WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT

SCREW THE POLLS, AND THE CORPORATE MEDIA

[farmbo]

14. Stop the Presses!! Unflattering pictures of Kerry and Teresa on Drudge...

...and in the Washington Times!

Err...these outfits are nothing but organs of the Republican smear machine. If Kerry saved a troop of Boy Scouts from drowning, they would still mock him for ruining his suit. It's their job, and their good at it.

Thankfully, they are not viewed-- let alone taken seriously-- by more than 3% of Right Wing ideologues...and apparantly...

You.

[zanana]

15. I just love her.

She gets mad, she speaks her mind, she LOOKS like the average American woman, and she doesn't move like she went to finishing school. Compare that to Laura Bush with her whiny little voice, very proper suits and never a hair out of place; YECH!

[SpaceCatMeetsMars]

34. She does look way more normal

than Laura. I couldn't resist going to Sludge to see the pictures and she doesn't look like she's on a bender, she looks like any fun woman handing out beers at a party. Laura looks medicated.

[Catfight]

18. The same people who read Drudge read the National Inquirer.

It's pure rag and entertainment, he's not a serious reporter. He's capitalizes on peoples desire to hear gossip. He doesn't have any power like you say, but thanks for playing!

[clevergirl]

19. Yeah! Shut her up! Or lock her in her castle!!

Ya know what? I don't think anyone who is offended by the sight of a woman drinking a beer IN DAYLIGHT is gonna vote for Kerry anyway.

[Bridget Burke]

20. How long have you been believing Drudge & the Moonie Times?

Far longer than you've been at DU, for sure.

[wadestock]

24. My wife loves her....and most women I talk to think she's cool...

You may have underestimated her appeal to women and how that may help the undecided too. These are 2 big areas where I think she is a net positive.

Think of it this way too...she represents a model of women's lib, success, you name it. Her ability to speak out is also key. My wife always says following one of these events where she speaks out....GOOD FOR HER!!!!

[Forkboy]

27. Give it a rest

:eyes:

[GreenPartyVoter]

28. THK is fine with this stay-at-home Mom. Not at all offended by her

comment about "real jobs". I understood what she meant. :)

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

29. Do I think THK is a liability? Hell no. I happen to love her.

But can I see why someone else might think that's the case? Yeah, I do. There are a lot of idiots out there, no question about it. Personally, I don't think THK is a liability because I've written off the idiots as being beyond hope. Others have not. So let's not get the lynch mob riled up just yet, okay?

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

30. Chill out

the only people who get off on Teresa bashing are the people who were never going to vote for Kerry anyway. In other words, frothing at the mouth bush supporters, the type of people who laugh when other people trip and fall. Know what I mean?

What's your deal? Quoting drudge and the Moony times and getting all upset over said sources aren't exactly things that endear you to DUers. You should know that.

Edited to ask, I don't want to go to either site, but am I correct in assuming from this thread that all this hullaballoo is from a picture of her DRINKING A BEER????? WTF? Who cares???? Actually I know quite a few people that would think that is pretty cool. A nice change from certain other women who seem as if they have a stick up their ass.

[donco6]

32. I've heard very little about her.

But then, I don't frequent Drudge. I haven't seen much in the news about her at all.

[chrislrob]

36. Some good points about treating Drudge

like a real news source. But on the rest of it, I think most of you are wrong.

Best comment? THK is not the candidate. Damn skippy, so why does the campaign allow her to do damage TO the candidate? Why is SHE so oblivious to the fact that she is doing damage to the candidate? The same people that say THK can't hurt Kerry are the exact same people that know how much HRC helped Clinton.

And go to hell for trying to make it sound like I'm attacking her because she's a woman. I'm attacking her because she's a public image liability. Not my fault that she's not a he and trying to become the future "First Gentleman" or whatever you call the husband of the president (although I suspect you call him "Bill Clinton").

As for the argument that she's a strong, sassy, bold, brassy, brainy, zany, independent, unrepentant modern woman, I'd say that I've seen "strong women" like her before--on the Jerry Springer show...

Okay, maybe that was too much. But dammit, I'd sure like to see her act like someone that either knows what to say (like Elizabeth Edwards) or knows that she's better off saying nothing (like Laura Bush).

Look, it is oh so obvious that THK doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks of her. I just wish she would make it a little less obvious until after the election.

P.S. And you all know that her comments have gotten exposure on more than just Drudge and the Washington Post, so just stop it.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

37. Although I suspect you call him Bill Clinton???

Sniff, sniff......

Tell me exactly what this horrible picture is. Is she drinking a beer? If so, tell me why that's so awful?

[tishaLA]

44. What an odd post. Really.

*sniff* *sniff*

[Wat_Tyler]

47. Yes. You're absolutely right. She should just shut up.

We can't risk any gaffes, can we? Best she just stands at the back.

[Neecy]

38. mmmmmmmmmm....no

THK drinking beer in broad daylight looking like she's on the backside of a two-day bender.

I held my nose and looked at the photos, and you obviously don't know what a two-day bender looks like. And if you're offended by drinking beer in broad daylight, stay away from the tailgate parties that precede football games. This looked like a barbeque given for staffers - what's the big deal?

If you want to see a REAL sloppy drunk, direct your attention to the current occupant of the White House.

I despise the notion that the candidate's wife has to be an obedient little airhead. I hate fake public personas, and I find THK refreshing.

[SammyWinstonJack]

48. The chimp looks like he's on the backside of a two-day bender

most everyday.

[demwing]

39. Relatives of Candidates have often been a concern

Think Roger Clinton or Billy Carter, neither of whom are female, both of whom could have done their brothers better if they just would have shut the hell up and stayed out of the public eye.

Not that I think THK is a burden to John Kerry, or that she is at all an embarrassment along the lines of those former Presidential brothers, but if John Kerry said something about Laura Bush not ever having had a real job, we would all be wondering why the hell he was straying from relevancey just two weeks before the most important election of our lives.

I'll be proud to call THK our first lady. I can't speak for the original poster, but this is not a male/female issue for me. This is all about focus.

[Greylyn58]

40. Leave THK Alone...

The media is givng her the Hillary treatment. Just like it did when Clinton ran for office.

I don't know how many of you were around when Clinton ran, but the media coverage of Hillary was relentless. They scrutinized every single word she said. They even talked about her hair styles or the way she dressed. It was terrible. She couldn't make a move without some media whore making a snarky remark about something she did or didn't do.

Now they've turned their attention on Theresa. I think she is a strong woman and is going to make a wonderful 1st Lady.

Just as Kerry said Mary Cheney is just being who she is, Theresa is just being who she is...a strong, well read, intellegent woman with thoughts and feelings that just make some people crazy.

If the media wouldn't pound to death everything freakin thing she says...day in and day out, her comments would only be a blip on the countries collective radar.

Just my two cents worth.

:mad:

[Jon8503]

41. This Is A Bunch Of Crap

First of all this article is out of the Washington Times, they are never going to have anything postive.

Drudge is bullshit & has about as much credibility as Fox.

Interesting that this poster reads Drudge and the Washington Times.

I have not seen any of these kinds of articles about Kerry's wife in credible news sources. They mostly report all the good that she does all over the world with the Heinz Foundation.

Personally I respect someone who can speak her mind and is not a Stepford Wife. Clinton's wife was outspoken as well.

You can disregard the Washington Times and Drudge.

[mrgorth]

46. So it's a problem that she's having a beer?

Not registering. Bier ist gut.

[Sparkle]

49. why isn't this thread locked yet!?

[siliconefreak]

51. Interesting...

I started a thread talking about how WONDERFUL I thought the Wash Times article is. :party:

I think it's a shame that you want her to basically "shut up" and/or be locked away.

If anything, I think she energizes the base!

[Yunaleska]

52. If we lose this election

"I don't care for hunting--or baseball--but a lot of people do"

It will be because of the people who decide who to vote for based on which candidate likes baseball.

Such people are a lost cause, and we don't need to bring ourselves down to a simpletons level to cater to them.