Attn, Attn: Sinclair? We won!!!!

[funky_bug]

Since we aren't bothering to watch Sinclair, I decided to check out the freepers take on it. Please, even if you think you can't take it, go to this link and read their comments. They are LIVID, I tell you... LIVID. My personal favorite:

To: kaferhaus
I just quit watching this travesty. I am furious! More attention was given to Kerry's movie and it's director, George Butler, etc. than any of the Stolen Honor movie.When they belittled Bush's guard service, that was when I gave up on this crap. I am so disgusted I can barely type. I will be contacting Sinclair. It was a damn ad for Kerry!

19 posted on 10/22/2004 5:46:59 PM PDT by gramho12 (Got wood?)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1253998/posts#comment?q=1

They are in meltdown. Hit it quick before they zap it off the board.

[Minimus]

1. I was surprised at their middle of the road stance

see my post about it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1143453

[autorank]

4. Congratulations DU, NY State Comptroller, NYSE, DNC etc.

What a remarkable victory. The people all over this forum who organized and participated in this are simply amazing!!! Watching and participating in politics for a long time, I can say, this is about as good as it gets (until we take down Faux, CNN, and the NBC's after JFK's elected).

[Bluebear]

2. "The POW Story that Sinclair put together makes Kerry look ...

very sympathetic." Hahahahaha

[mzmolly]

3. THIS IS A VICTORY FOR US ! NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!

They were planning to air Stolen Honor, leaked it to the press, and because of the amazing Grass Roots efforts on the left - combined with the actions of the Kerry Campaign and George Butler, we got equal time folks!

I think people who tuned in expecting the smear were disapointed, and just might have come away with a different perspective on JK's service and right to represent his fellow soldiers.

Make no mistake, they changed the orignial plans in order to save face, and you and I and others played a very important role!

:hi:

[tedoll78]

21. I wonder..

(I haven't seen the program yet).

So.. was the program fair enough to the point where Kerry might actually benefit from it? It was given a TON of hype, so people might've actually tuned-in to see what the brou-ha-ha was all about..

[mzmolly]

33. I'd say so, given the potential audience.

They actually presented both sides as well as many cable outlets that we bitch about? :hi:

[tedoll78]

37. Mu-wha-ha-ha-ha!

And we were tied or leading in many of these swing states already, lol..!

[mzmolly]

38. Yes indeedy! And the beauty is that given the publicity many conservative

leaning folks might be enlightened?

:hi:

See post # 31 by Wife of a wes freak toward the bottom: :evilgrin:

[popstalin]

5. That's funny

Whether they are trolls or actual freepers, the common theme is that is was a Kerry ad.

[Kipepeo]

55. Yes, but these are people who think

The right-wing corporate controlled media is "liberal."

:D

[Sugarbleus]

6. Fantastic!!

American Fascism cannot be allowed to flourish. Break up these media barons... I'm crying a river over the freepers feelings. :nopity:

[billyoc]

12. Freepers are funny

I never read any of the threads there before this. Do you see how suspicious they are of each other, how any dissenting voices are branded as trolls?

Man, what a sad bunch. I argue all the time with other Kerry supporters, Greens, etc. But that bunch over there, it's really disturbing how little room they give even each *other* to discuss anything.

[aquart]

40. We do a lot of troll branding, too.

[troublemaker]

7. "They were never going to show Stolen Honor and never said they were."

What a laugh!

"I don't understand why anyone on FR, as intelligent as they are, and addicted to facts as we are, has FAILED to get that important FACT"

-and-

"Dammit, I was right. Sinclair is apparently a bunch of linguini-spined cowards who decided to chop up the documentary and insert so much cognitive dissonance as to make it useless. Shame on them! SHAME!"

[high density]

8. Sinclair saved their entire company tonight

We know that the original plan was to air "Stolen Honor" in its entirety, but Sinclair clearly underestimated the power of the grassroots process.

[Lilli]

9. Saving face maybe?

Now I wish it had aired here.
Thanks for the freep link. I like getting their take on this stuff.

[RaleighNCDUer]

67. Nothing to do with saving face. Saving the bottom line! eom

[SammyWinstonJack]

10. How many people who watched that crap will now go out and rent

"Going Upriver" out of curiosity? I think they inadvertently gave us free advertising. :evilgrin:

[funky_bug]

16. And the beauty of it all is...

Everyone thinks they saw "Stolen Honor" tonight and won't bother looking for it online or renting it or whatever....AND we've still got Michael Moore offering free F/911 next week.

God Bless 'Merica, indeed!

[SammyWinstonJack]

17. Yes indeed!

:-)

[grace0418]

11. Congratulations DU

We can get the job done if we work together!

[greenbriar]

13. lets carry that on thru NOV 2nd

and beyond

[seraph]

14. ROFLMFAMO!!

Awww! Poor freeptards!

:nopity:

Now they are threatening to contact Sinclair! To say what I have no idea, but it's pretty hysterical over there right now.

[AnIndependentTexan]

15. love this one

It seems this has turned into an entire media event where Sinclair is defending itself. That is what it has turned into.

Sinclair wanted to redeem itself, at any cost. In the end folks will see the documentary, and make their decision.

Indeed it makes Kerry look better. Shame on Sinclair ... and what they did not SHOW.



41 posted on 10/22/2004 5:53:43 PM PDT by Former Military Chick

[popstalin]

20. This one's pretty good too

They kissed the DNC and Kerry's ass .What a shame. The truth can no longer be told.This is the start of our new country under Kerry,It will be Kerry's way or get destroyed!!!!!!!!!!!


127 posted on 10/22/2004 6:10:06 PM PDT by patriciamary

[Rose Siding]

48. They are running the entire govt and *this* is what it will be like...

under KERRY? They have no idea. :evilgrin:

[OldLeftieLawyer]

75. Sinclair's BIG mistakes

Their edited show still managed to mangle facts. A little fact checking never hurts. Think Sinclair will ever learn that?

http://mediamatters.org/items/200410230001

[robo]

18. I LOVE IT!!!

Just a big let down for the repubs , see what happens when the truth is let out with no spin ,there crying oh boy are they crying

[high density]

19. Our progress:

From this:



To this:

[crispini]

73. Nice. Very nice!

[AlCzervik]

22. this one is hilarious

Sinclair will now be getting it from everyone.

To: kaferhaus


Boycott spineless Sinclair Broadcasting. The entire program was a John Kerry rebuttal. These cowards backed down from exposing the TRUTH.


Boycott their advertisers and sell their stock.
152 posted on 10/22/2004 6:14:51 PM PDT by boycott
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[seraph]

29. Gee, think we should let them know we beat them to it? (nt)

[mcg]

32. and this one

'The libs must really be scared if they signed up just to try and tell us what to think of the show.'

"Bets, it's not just liberals signing up; it's the part of the right wing GOP that hopes Bush loses, too."
---------------------------------------------------

Indeed, many conservatives are against Bush, The American Conservative is against Bush, and even Bob Barr has come out against Bush.

<http://www.atlanta.creativeloafing.com/2004-10-07/news_flankingaction.html>

<http://www.amconmag.com/2004_11_08/cover1.html>

[AlCzervik]

34. *snarf*

i saw another one that said that the anti-kerry vets were made out to look like drug addled whackjobs.

[mcg]

49. and this one

"they must be laughing their butts off over at DU!"

"If they're reading this thread, they are. I'm sure they're enjoying all the 'troll' accusations being thrown around."

[Crunchy Frog]

56. We sure as Hell are!

Hey freepers

[seraph]

66. Yes we are!!

:grouphug::kick:

[Kaldis]

23. Man

This is great news. :D

[SammyWinstonJack]

24. It's very great news!

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[undercover_brother]

25. Especially like the freeper who said it showed no respect for the Swiftees

[Rowdyboy]

26. Sinclair folded like a cheap suit!

The Freeper thread is much fun....Can you spell M-E-L-T-D-O-W-N?

[ewagner]

27. Intrepid DUers

Great job folks ...this is a direct result of the hard work of a lot of dedicated individuals....make that Patriots

[Sugarbleus]

47. Make that: PASSIONATE PATRIOTS!!... =o)

Yes, great job all! :toast:

[Ladyhawk]

51. Wooohoooo!!!! WE DID IT!!!!!!!!

:toast:

[vademocrat]

28. This is great news!! "A Kerry campaign ad" Ha Ha

I'm glad I took a look at freeperville tonight - although the place gives me the willies. My favorite was

"you guys need to think about something, the lawyer that is defending Kerry is the same guy thats putting companies like Enron in jail, he is very well known. He has threatened to charge Sinclair with insider trading, bogus but could bring the network down."

We really do live in different universes if "putting companies like Enron in jail" is seen as a BAD thing...

I'm very very happy that all our hard work paid off - it's this kind of teamwork & energy that has me excited about AFTER the election. For me, getting Kerry elected is the start of something not the end result.

we :kick:

[billyoc]

30. Oh, it's not just me

He really *was* saying putting Enron away was bad?

Also:

"It will be Kerry's way or be destroyed!!!"

(wtf)

Bone chilling.

[vademocrat]

50. I should've put the next sentence in the quote also --

"And by the way he has donated thousands to John Edwards".

I read the quote to be the freeper's way of saying that of course the lawyer couldn't be trusted since not only did he defend Kerry but he did all this other "non-rethuglican" stuff.

[fob]

63. psst! How do you put a company "in jail"?

Is that like those prison work programs that have prisoners working as telemarketers?

DAT.

[funky_bug]

31. OMG It just keeps on getting better

Post # 205

My wife watched this with me, she is a staunch Bush supporter and she said:

"If I hadn't known from you what Kerry's actions after the war and his testimony has meant to the men of Viet Nam, and if I had been for Kerry, this would have made me more solid in my support of him. Looking at it objectively, that part about Kerry reaching down, while wounded, laying on his wounded arm and pulling that man out of the water while under fire, was very emotional. I can see how people who support him will be vitalized by that. Since his non-disclosure of all his military record was never mentioned in this program, it left only the image of Kerry saving that man in the mind of the viewer. They even showed film of how frightening it was -- boats manuevering, fire hitting the water, etc. Very dramatic.

[Jack_Dawson]

35. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

I don't live in a Sinclair market, but DAMN your post made my entire night! Keep posting the Freeper Freakouts...they are priceless...

:toast:

:toast:

:toast:

:toast:

[mzmolly]

36. Well I'll be a monkeys ... monkey.

:P

Very interesting.

[Sugarbleus]

45. Wow! Now I wish I coulda seen it. lol eom

[missouri dem]

39. Congratulations DUers ! This is a big victory for us and shows

what we can do when we work together. President Kerry will need us and this was just one battle in the coming war.

[coloradodem2005]

78. In my opinion the "war" started in late 2000.

So, I wouldn't call it the coming war.

[Rowdyboy]

41. I read the first 300 responses...they are fit to be tied...furious

Sinclair screwed them over big time!

[BUSHOUT]

42. Again, if you haven't watched it don't judge by freeper response.

I saw it as very unbalanced.

It continuously flashed the most horrible part of Kerrys testimony on the screen, never explaining that he was retelling the testimony of others. They even let several of the anti-Kerry vets speak freely about him being the one who accused them of all those crimes.

AND the claim was made by the documentary/news piece/whatever that Kerry joined the war and the protest for purely political reasons.

If you saw it, and you recognized the partisan imbalance of this thing, contact the FCC:

Chairman Michael K. Powell: [e-mail]
Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy: [e-mail]
Commissioner Michael J. Copps: [e-mail]
Commissioner Kevin J. Martin: [e-mail]
Commissioner Jonathan S. Adelstein: [e-mail]
General information, inquiries & complaints: [e-mail]
Elections & political candidate matters: [e-mail]

Judging if a thing is balanced by freeper reaction is crazy. They think FOX news is always balanced for gawdsake!

[mcg]

53. Agreed, let's keep the pressure on until the "news" is accurate

Just because it wasn't as bad as it could have been doesn't mean it was accurate. Besides, this is just part of their continual bias, just part of the big picture of what's going on.

[Crunchy Frog]

43. Hahahahahahaha!!!!!

I just got finished sending off a bunch of boycott emails to advertisers. Now they're going to be getting it from the freepers as well.

Looks like Sinclair has just succeeded in pissing off just about everyone in the country who pays attention to politics, as well as the ones who don't, and found their regular programs preempted.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

44. hehehe hohoho HAHAHA

[Rose Siding]

46. O my goodness that's FUN!

Did they actually present the FACT that Guard service (especially UNSERVED) was different than today?

I'm delighting in in that poster's disgust and fury. I feel so guilty.

KIDDING! :bounce:

[Tony_Illinois]

52. Here's My Favorite Whine From FreeRepublic

To: kaferhaus
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO POST A THREAD ON THIS HORRIBLE SO CALLED DOCUMENTRY.

It came on here on MD @8pm, I turned it off after 40 minutes.

Honestly the POW Story that Sinclair put together makes Kerry look very sympathetic.

16 posted on 10/22/2004 5:46:34 PM PDT by snarkytart
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[foo_bar]

54. another meltdown in the neo wing

7:38 PM EDT:
Kerry hasn't bothered to tell 'his story' - we would all love to hear 'the rest of the story'

8:34 PM:
Watching the Sinclair TV special right now.
So far it has little critical of Kerry and a lot that makes him look like a hero.

8:50 PM:
I've watched 45 minutes of this sinclair special and It's so balanced and watered down that it actually comes off as pro-kerry. I can't believe it after all the controversy. Did Sinclair completely cave?

9:11 PM:
My husband just said that--were he an undecided voted-- he would vote for kerry after this special. Thanks Sinclair for using the hype to get more kerry voters!!! Glad my husband is a staunch Republican!

http://www.lucianne.com/threads2.asp?artnum=178031

[atre]

69. That's telling

"I've watched 45 minutes of this sinclair special and It's so balanced and watered down that it actually comes off as pro-kerry."

Sounds like someone subconsciously acknowledged that a balanced presentation would be Pro-Kerry.

[LynnTheDem]

81. She's glad her husband is PARTY UBER ALLES

Like all freeping stupid rightwingnuts, it's HELL with America, PARTY UBER ALLES.

[jhain]

57. are repubs allowed

to have spell check?

[Roland99]

58. I wonder how many even watched it, though.

Fri. night is not a big TV viewing night.

[progressivebydesign]

59. Not to NITPICK.. BUT.. I said just a few days ago that WE WON..

.. and I was resoundly beaten about the keyboard for it!! When we MADE Sinclair change plans, WE WON! Anytime your opponent has to change their footing, step back, regroup, and change tactics.. YOU WON.

I'll accept those apologies now.. :grouphug:

[CAcyclist]

65. I'll apologize

gladly. Good for you!(and us)

[fishwax]

60. Thanks to everybody who posted advertiser lists

email addresses, responses from the companies, etc.

Way to go DU. I didn't saw a grand total of about 12 seconds of the show, but I noticed that part of that was "going up river," which I was pretty surprised to see. I still have a hard time believing it was anywhere close to balanced, but pressure from DU, advertisers, and stockholders clearly had an effect. :toast:

[Kipepeo]

61. kick

to the top

[JPZenger]

62. "Stolen Honor" Showings Are being blocked by lawsuit

The lawsuit that was filed by a photographer for copyright infringement is working to stop showings of the Stolen Honor crapumentary. The grand premiere of Stolen Honor in a theater in Abington PA was cancelled because of the lawsuit. That premiere was supposed to feature the makers of the documentary and was sponsored by a local right wing nut talk show host. Also, the showing of Stolen Honor on a community access channel in a hard-core GOP suburb has been cancelled because of the lawsuit.

Source: Philadelphia Inquirer www.phillynews.com/inquirer

[The Magistrate]

68. That Is Excellent News, Mr. Zenger!

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[genius]

64. Thank God

[sr_pacifica]

70. Money talks all right!

Sinclair must have caught hell from their shareholders.

Good work, everyone!

:grouphug:

[rlev1223]

71. when investors jumped on it, it was all over

You could see the handwriting on the Sinclair message board. I have never before seen traders, even the amateurs on the boards, so outraged, not just at the biz consequences but at the
democracy hijacking.

Plus the mutual funds and pension funds must have been deluged, then hints of insider trading probes, stockholder lawsuits, and the possible loss of licences...........

LA Times --> DU ---> the internets ----> we win

[jayctravis]

72. Is there any chance this *was* a bait and switch and...

...Sinclair are masked democrats pulling the ultimate October surprise?

Luring all the freepers there then being balanced...(from what I hear, I did not see the program.)

I glanced at FreeRepublic and snagged this quote:

"The problem with Sinclair... they think that balance means showing both sides. "

[Sugarcoated]

74. This is so sweet!

Pats on the back and props all around! This seems like a miracle to me, we actually made a difference.

[high density]

77. They are not masked Democrats

They are a lot of things and being a Democrat is not one of them. Mark Hyman still hates John Kerry. The Smith brothers who own the company still want Bush elected. They had to cave in because they didn't want a lot of stockholder lawsuits, among other things. I imagine they were getting pressure from advertisers as well.

[bush equals idiot]

76. Congratulations DUers.

Freedom rang a little bell tonight. Maybe it will show other corporations that they are responsible to the people, not the other way around.

My favorite: :nopity:
___________________________________________________________________________________________________

This is just another Kerry ads. They sold out. They owe the GOP an hour too. They simply make me sick. Seems this could be the October Surprise from the DNC...this certainly won't hurt Kerry. It seems that they show no respect at all for the POW or Swiftees.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________



:nopity: Huge LOL

[Dem2theMax]

79. Here's a very sweet thought. If the freepers are this mad,

imagine how pissed Rove must be right now! :evilgrin:

And just think -- all that $$$$$$ that went to Sinclair to do a smear job on Kerry -- I wonder if Rove will try to make them give it back!

Question for anyone who has both the Sinclair channel and LINK TV -
Link TV is showing a special on Kerry tonight and tomorrow. If you saw the Sinclair program and can also watch the Link TV program, please let us know if they were similar and/or different in content.
I get LINK and have taped the show but won't watch it till tomorrow.
I don't get Sinclair (YEAH!) so I only know what I've read here about their program.

BTW - LINK is on Dish and DIRECTV. Maybe? some cable channels?

Spotlight: Forbidden Films About John Kerry

~snip~

We launch the series with two films that have been in the news quite often in recent days. Much has been written about the Sinclair Broadcast Group’s decision to pre-empt one of its regular shows to show the anti-Kerry documentary Stolen Honor—Wounds that Never Heal to 62 markets. Yet, many of the pundits who have written about this controversy along with most of the American people, have not yet seen the documentary. In contrast to the Sinclair Broadcast Group which broadcast Stolen Honor without context or commentary, Link TV Spotlight host and political commentator Mark Hertsgaard investigates the truth and connections behind this powerful, yet polemical film. After showing a segment of the film, he offers analysis and expert commentary regarding the film’s central argument, namely that John Kerry was a traitor who imperiled the lives of POWs in Vietnam by his congressional testimony. To purchase or download the film, please go link to www.stolenhonor.com.

In the second half of the program, Hertsgaard analyzes Going Upriver: The Long War of John Kerry, a feature length documentary about character and moral leadership during a time of national crisis. Loosely based on the best-selling book Tour of Duty by Douglas Brinkley, Going Upriver examines the story of John Kerry and the key events that made him a national figure and the man he is today. The film places particular emphasis on his bravery during the Vietnam War and his courageous opposition to the war upon his return. Link TV will also show a segment of this film. Click here to view a streamed trailer. Click here to view an introductory clip: Kerry before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, 1971. Click here to view an introductory clip: Nixon's "Get Kerry" campaign. For more information, and to purchase or download the film, please visit www.goingupriver.com.


~more info and schedule for the program at link:

http://www.worldlinktv.org/programming/programDescription.php4?code=films1

[darkism]

80. silly freepers

They never fail to crack me up with their vitriolic bullshit.

Chalk up another victory for the Good Guys! :D

[obiwan]

82. Yeah, but soft, cuddly, and fun to play with...

... and mind-numbingly stupid and dogmatic.

They make good wheel chocks for commercial aircraft.

Remember- it's in the water- that's why it's yellow.