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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:16 PM
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Sinclair was BALANCED!! Freepers are PISSED!!
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:17 PM
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1. Nope! Sinclair isn't in my area!
But thanks for the link LOL I love watching them implode! :)
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:16 PM
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65. I saw the show and it was NOT balanced
It was a travesty. It was full of distortions and downright lies about Kerry. I have posted this on several other threads.

Just because the freepers don't like it doesn't mean it wasn't a hit piece on Kerry. It was, and I am very angry.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:22 PM
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:59 PM
Response to Reply #71
88. Do you just have composites of the women?
LOL
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seraph Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:17 PM
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2. Didn't see the show...

But I have been watching the freeptards throw a collective hissy fit.


It's just too damn funny.:evilgrin:



(Poor widdle freeptards):nopity:



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puddycat Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:36 PM
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23. "hissy fit" is a good way to put it! They are like little children!
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CMO Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:17 PM
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66. freeptards....thats good!
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NAO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:18 PM
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3. They are saying "it looked like a Kerry ad"
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seraph Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:19 PM
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7. HA!


I know!!

They want to contact Sinclair and bitch that it didn't smear Kerry hard enough!

WTF?? :wtf:


I am convinced that being a freeptard is a birth defect.


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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:57 PM
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86. Now that is just too funny...freeptards wanting to contact Sinclair
that it didn't smear Kerry hard enough! :7



Jennifer
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Liberal_Minded Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:05 PM
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58. Hilarious
HAHHAHAHAH
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Dickie Flatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:18 PM
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4. Not much.
I saw parts of the first half hour. They showed segments of Stolen Honor, said they tried to get Kerry but were refused on daily basis. They showed a clip of Kerry being asked about it, but that just gave Kerry an opportunity to bash Bush and talk about how the election was about today and the future, not 35 years ago. Then they introduced four veterans. Two, in-studio, were anti-Kerry. Two, by satellite, were pro-Kerry, one of which was apparently recommended by the Kerryfolk.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:18 PM
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5. I love that they showed clips from "Going Upriver"!
and interviewed the guy who made the movie! He had his say! :bounce:
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puddycat Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:40 PM
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31. He was awesome! soft-spoken but clear. Great clips from Going UpRiver
Those clips from Going UpRiver really made it clear how much danger Kerry was in when he served on the Swift Boat, and how brave he is.

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shawmut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:19 PM
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6. yea, they ain't too happy over there
teee heee :D
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blueblitzkrieg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:20 PM
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8. LOL - I like this comment
"The dems successfully OVERHYPED the Clinton impeachment testimony too,,,,they OVERHYPED it enough,,,that the high expectations were never met---and it became a CLINTON net-plus!!
SAME THING!

This must have been Kerry's "October Surprise"--they must be laughing their butts off over at DU!

The Sinclair VP on FOX today admitted that there are many more Kerry bumperstickers in their parking lot--than there are Bush ones.

133 posted on 10/22/2004 6:10:54 PM PDT by stockstrader"

Yes we are laughing. HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH. Fuck you Freepers! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
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seraph Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:23 PM
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11. ROFLMFAO!!


I like this one:



To: kaferhaus
I just quit watching this travesty. I am furious! More attention was given to Kerry's movie and it's director, George Butler, etc. than any of the Stolen Honor movie.When they belittled Bush's guard service, that was when I gave up on this crap. I am so disgusted I can barely type. I will be contacting Sinclair. It was a damn ad for Kerry!

19 posted on 10/22/2004 5:46:59 PM PDT by gramho12 (Got wood?)
< Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies >




WOO-HOO!!

Go get a lobotomy freeptard! It would be an improvement! YEAH! WE'RE TALKIN TO YOU!

:bounce:
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meti57b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #11
85. hee hee hee ...I'm luvin' it!!!!
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:02 PM
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89. Well, that's what happens when the
assholes try to use Butler's footage without his permission! Jeez, it's not like he didn't sue them over it! Maybe he's the one who ultimately 'pwned' (or, as we say around here, 'ownxored' -- script kiddie talk for 'owned') the Sincliar Network over this. Dumb asses -- it's the right wingnuts who are so big on intellectual property laws covering everything. Again, they got bit in the ass by their own sacred cow!

Kali is laughing at those bastards, don't you bet?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #8
15. LMBO
You bet!
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Robbie67 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #8
29. Kerry's "October Surprise?"
They must be putting us on. How could anyone be that stupid?
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:14 PM
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63. "Laughing our butts off"-- well I WASN'T...
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 09:49 PM by undisclosedlocation
but I certainly am now.:D
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:04 PM
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90. BWAAAHHH!!! ROLF!!!
This must have been Kerry's "October Surprise"--they must be laughing their butts off over at DU!



You bet freeptards!!! Ha!!! :bounce:



Jennifer

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Scoopie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:09 PM
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91. Hee hee
:D

:bounce:

Oh - voted today for Kerry.... just thought I'd let you know.
No fanfare, really - but I saw lots o' known Dems there today. HIGHLY unusual for the neo-con area in which I chose to vote - but, hey, it's the closest one to my pro-Kerry neighborhood.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 02:25 AM
Response to Reply #91
100. Congratulations Scoop!
:toast:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #91
104. Way to go Scoopie!
:hi:

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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:21 PM
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9. Ka-blam!
Just listen to this:

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO POST A THREAD ON THIS HORRIBLE SO CALLED DOCUMENTRY.

It came on here on MD @8pm, I turned it off after 40 minutes.

Honestly the POW Story that Sinclair put together makes Kerry look very sympathetic.


That's what one freeper said. Made me all giddy. I didn't watch it, of course, but I'm glad the freepers are hating it.

:nopity:

-Laelth
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #9
33. LOL I love the violin
Why don't I use that more?
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:23 PM
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10. A question.... would it be ridiculous to write Sinclair and
THANK THEM???????? Woot :evilgrin:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #10
27. Ha!
Great idea! and you are bad! :spank:
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:28 PM
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76. LOL.......welllllll, I didn't see it...just going by what others are
saying in different threads. MY BAD??? Oops :dunce: lol
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:50 PM
Response to Reply #76
83. I meant you're bad in a good way!
:-)
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #10
38. No I think it will shoe them we are watching.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:19 PM
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67. I saw it and I hated it! It stank of Karl Rove
I'm not kidding. I guess it could have been worse but it was bad enough. It was an hour of bashing Democrats, bashing Kerry, bashing vets who support Kerry, you name it. The nods to "balance" involved a whitewash of W's service and interrupted clips from Up the River.

I am not happy. SBG pulled a fast one.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:31 PM
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78. Okay then....I stand corrected/SPANKED lol
Another thread is Whooping it up saying DU really came through etc. Saying the wingnuts are exploding with rage etc.... So, just got excited there for a minute. :dunce:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:47 PM
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82. Sorry - didn't mean to personally jump on you
I'm frustrated that the show is being praised for not being as bad as it could have been, when it was actually really really bad. I'm not willing to settle for half a loaf anymore. I am mad that SBG was ever allowed to broadcast this show in the first place. Their last minute efforts to half-heartedly "show the other side" just don't cut it for me.

Ok, I am being hard-nosed, I admit it. I am pleased to hear that freepers hated it. That is one plus.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #82
97. No sweat.... =o)
n/t
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:29 PM
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77. No, but we need to write Sinclair advertisers
I have no doubt that the advertisers and investors put pressure on Sinclair to tone this down. We won because they heard us. It's time to give thanks.

I'm posting this as a new thread if someone hasn't done something similar.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:24 PM
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12. If it was balanced and you saw it, might as well email a thanks, right?
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Robbie67 Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:41 PM
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34. No
it should never have aired

Don't reward their bad faith with your good faith.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:10 PM
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60. They must be on their way to a collective nervous breakdown...
Sinclair, that is, (not that I'm sorry for them, just sadistically amused), the freepers were there a long time ago.

But, seriously, picture it: first they're hammered with nonstop pressure to pull their show as their advertisers pull out and their stocks tank. Finally, against top management's wishes, no doubt (they *are* * supporters, but they care about the bottom line first), but unwilling to look like they "caved," they compromise with whatever this was. Now, the freepers are the ones to start flooding their email boxes and tying up their phone lines. Go try to please people, eh? They must be cursing the day they even heard of this documentary, or the whole bloody election for that matter. "Why couldn't we have stuck to Survivor or something," I hear faintly moaned on the wind...
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puddycat Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:45 PM
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37. But its only balanced because we worked hard to boycott them!
I made so many phone calls to advertisers my ear hurts. I called and waited and was put on hold and was transferred so many times I could scream! But I stayed nice and polite and usually got my point across and got good responses. I hope I don't need to do that again soon, though!
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #37
54. We are unsung heros puddycat. Little did I know defending democracy
would involve enduring muzak.
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puddycat Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:03 PM
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57. LOL ! I know exactly what you mean!
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:24 PM
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13. Did anyone watch the video posted by one of the freepers?
The idiot just videotaped his TV! What a maroon! What a hick!
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seraph Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:25 PM
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14. Guess he never heard of copyright law either


They're all nuckingfuts.


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helpisontheway Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:33 PM
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21. I'm not going to thank them that is for sure!
They are the ones that started this. THen they released statements talking about how awful we were and all that. Nope...they did not do it for us. They were trying to save their butt and save face at the same time.
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:13 PM
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61. Well, you could do it in the spirit of rewarding the behavior you'd like
to see more of, I suppose. Something formal and short. I mean, I'm not going to; but it might be fun. especially since now the freepers are screaming bloody murder at them and threatening to dump their stock and whatnot.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:23 PM
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72. SBG does not deserve thanking. I saw it and it stank.
Please don't thank anybody for this travesty unless you saw it yourself and were genuinely pleased. I thought it was a typical Rove attack piece - pretending to be balanced but actually biased and partisan.

Just because some freepers didn't like it does not make it good! Since when do we trust freeper judgement around here?
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #72
93. Good point.
I'm certainly not going to trust freeper judgement, and I didn't see it myself. So no thank you notes from moi.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. OMG, please tell me you're not serious!
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:37 PM
Response to Reply #17
24. Sorry, false alarm
My post was based on incorrect information :(

It is a crappy 38k stream though :)
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CMO Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #13
73. Another Cardinals fan!
Go Cards!

and that guy is a loser. :toast:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:27 PM
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16. Does this mean I can go to Lowe's again?
Heehee.

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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #16
26. I think lowes
was one that pulled their Adds at least that is what they said in their email they sent me.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #26
39. Oh good. Thanks. I hadn't seen that update! n/t
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seraph Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:30 PM
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18. Here's another one



To: FlJoePa
He is not talking about the documentary. He is talking about what Sinclair has decided to put on TV instead of Stolen Honor. I think that my head is finally going to explode.



53 posted on 10/22/2004 5:55:23 PM PDT by Kerretarded ("Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." —Albert Einstein)
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I'm having a real "scanners" moment right now! :evilgrin:


WOO-HOO!!

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Zero Division Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:30 PM
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19. Saw the one freeper threatening to put an end to Sinclair!!!
Oh by all means freepers, please don't let us stand in your way! Let the freeper self-destruction begin! :beer:
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puddycat Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #19
46. wouldn't it be funny if now the freep-nasties boycotted Sinclair? HA!
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:32 PM
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20. My favorite review thus far:
the liberal - this is just what they wanted. Absolutely NO mention of the contraversy over Kerry's records and a direct reference to the question of Bush's service.

I will wait to the end, but so far I see nothing to hurt Kerry in the eyes of the general public who support him. It may even give them strength.

It now seems that there is no media, no reporter, no producer, who will do justice to this issue.

At the end: My wife watched this with me, she is a staunch Bush supporter and she said:

"If I hadn't known from you what Kerry's actions after the war and his testimony has meant to the men of Viet Nam, and if I had been for Kerry, this would have made me more solid in my support of him. Looking at it objectively, that part about Kerry reaching down, while wounded, laying on his wounded arm and pulling that man out of the water while under fire, was very emotional. I can see how people who support him will be vitalized by that. Since his non-disclosure of all his military record was never mentioned in this program, it left only the image of Kerry saving that man in the mind of the viewer. They even showed film of how frightening it was -- boats manuevering, fire hitting the water, etc. Very dramatic.

Then, when it came to Bush, there was the intentional reference to the possibility of him being AWOL, and the comments from the men who never saw him in Alabama were detrimental. There was no significant retort to them. There was nothing to support Bush that evoked an emotion. The program may not of done any harm to Bush, but it certainly did not hurt Kerry either."

I take some objection to her comments, but I also see her "objectivity" and point of concern. Many Americans who do not know enough about, or remember those times, would only be left with that thought of Kerry under fire. Nothing was said to arouse any new suspicions.

The beginning of the piece did show the paranoia of the Democrats in general over the release of this. And it pointed out where all the pressure has come from over its airing. But, that is not what people remember when comes to voting.

Not what I expected.


============

Now, my question.. could kerry possibly have benefited from this program?
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:37 PM
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25. LOL . . .I'm sure that his wife . . .
who is incapable of investigating on her own to find out the truth about Kerry so relies on her Freeptard husband to tell her what to think formed that entire statement (which was the obvious result of many rewrites) and told him just off the cuff:

"If I hadn't known from you what Kerry's actions after the war and his testimony has meant to the men of Viet Nam, and if I had been for Kerry, this would have made me more solid in my support of him."

LOL . . . these people are so pathetic it makes me wanna barf.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:48 PM
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42. In other words if her husband hadn't lied to her............
............she would have known what we all know about Kerry, that is he a brave and courageous man, calm under fire and that he saved the life of his crewmember? And that is a bad thing how? Want to bet when her husband isn't around, she will rent "Going Upriver" and find out that Kerry didn't come back from VN and do harm to his fellow Vets who were still in 'Nam? I think this opened the eyes of many who weren't on Kerry side before seeing this.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #20
59. Bush AWOL: "There was no significant retort to them."
Maybe because....there isn't anything to retort?
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #20
75. The American public benefited from SBG being outed as a right-wing tool
America and the Constitution were the winners. I would guess that the impact on Kerry will be neutral, but the bigger picture is that we Democrats are now aware of SBG and more aware of the entire vast right-wing conspiracy, and we are energized to do something about it.

This is only the first step. We're going to restore democracy in this country. I feel it.
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puddycat Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:35 PM
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22. Oh my God!!! I read their comments & they are hopping mad! ROFLMAO!!!
And now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go take a shower. Even being over there for a few moments has left me with an icky-sticky feeling. It was worth reading, though, to see how upset they are! I can't stop chuckling about it.
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Greylyn58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:39 PM
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28. No Sinclair Owned Stations...
in my city, but having read all the threads on here tonight I am just gleeful at the way this has turned out.

WE DID IT!!!! YEAH!!!!

:bounce:
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:40 PM
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30. I just got back from Freepland and now I really want to see the show!
Anything that they hated this much must have a few redeaming features. Anyone got a link?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:40 PM
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32. We won. Excellent job, DU. nt
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:43 PM
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35. Just posted under first Sinclair thread. Brought it over..............

It seemed we made a difference or the piece wasn't such a shock or slanted because I knew it was coming. They presented two opinions.They gave too much to the but It wasn't the only voice heard. I think DU'ers and Dem's and Free Press Advocates were served.If we continue to speak out against the right wing I feel it will go back into the shadows and lose it's grip on the USA. Small victory We must now win all wars(Legal and illegal-Iraq). Now we must
get out the vote for our next Pres. JohnFKerry!

:grouphug:
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:44 PM
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36. Love watching them squirm
You guys just can't win. Not now and certainly not on election day.
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:46 PM
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40. I saw it. It wasn't balanced at all.
It repeatedly gives the impression that Kerry is making the accusations when in fact he's reading the testimony of others?

How is that balanced?

It comes out and says that Kerry went to war and protested the war for cynical political reasons?

That's balanced?

Just because a few freepers are upset that ANY of Going Upriver got shown or that the idea that people questioned GW's recored was brought up at all, dont' think the show was balanced. Freepers don't judge balance very well.

I've sent an email to the FCC and encourage everyone to do the same. This was still a contribution to Bush.

How to Contact the FCC

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Chairman Michael K. Powell: Michael.Powell@fcc.gov
Commissioner Kathleen Q. Abernathy: Kathleen.Abernathy@fcc.gov
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puddycat Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:52 PM
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45. It really really upset the freep-nasties, and that's a good thing
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:56 PM
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50. Yeah, well...they think FOX news is always balanced.
I don't care about upsetting them, I'm concerned with protecting Kerrys reputation from this partisan attack.

The freepers may not be happy, but don't think it wasn't still an unbalanced attack on Kerry, it was.
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progdonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:15 PM
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64. actually...
...they sometimes accuse FOX of being to the left of CNN (sadly becoming less and less difficult). Just goes to show how quick to scream "liberal bias!" if something isn't Mein Kampf.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:54 PM
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47. There is a ground swell of quiet American freedom fighters.
Kerry on....:kick:
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Tropez Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:48 PM
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41. Awesome! Truth Prevails!
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:51 PM
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43. GREAT NEWS!!
The pressure worked!

To the Freepers: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity: :nopity:
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vickie Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:52 PM
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44. I'm thrilled that these knuckle draggers are in a tizzy.
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Maya29 Donating Member (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:57 PM
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52. Power to the people......
Grassroots action works! The people have the power!!! Awesome, awesome, awesome!

I was really worried that this program could have had an adverse effect to the Kerry/Edwards campaign.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:59 PM
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53. Sounds like they REALLY got their hopes up...maybe they were even
RELYING on this, eh?
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VirginiaDem Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:54 PM
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48. I saw most of it
It wasn't balanced like we would want it to be but it was a helluva lot more balanced than they planned it originally. I was actually quite shocked at how far they went to satisfy their investors. It was far more balanced than most Fox material, which is saying a lot more than it might appear considering the original idea was essentially a Kerry smearjob. They showed a decent chunk of Upriver; they interviewed the Upriver maker and allowed him to speak; they had two pro-Kerry vets on to rebut the Swifties and they were allowed to speak; they had a segment on the accusations against Bush's guard service.

Granted, they skewed it here and there but, again, not nearly as much as Fox skews right just picking the morning cereal to eat.

Bottom line: we won big time.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:55 PM
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49. Didn't see it but had a great time reading
all the misery in freeperville. :bounce: :bounce:

:kick:
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 08:56 PM
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51. Wow. Sounds like Sinclair actually listened to their advertisers
who listened to us. ;) Frankly, I'm amazed. Extremely pleased, but amazed. :wow:
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:41 PM
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81. It sounds like it worked out the best way it could...
barring a Fairness Doctrine. I didn't see it, but from what I read here, seems there was something to both please, and displease everyone. Stopping it altogether would have been censorship.

I wish, as mentioned upthread, they had been more clear that Kerry, in his congressional testimony, was relating incidents told him by others who represented themselves as having been there.

If the freeps end up going all out to damage Sinclair now, maybe it's best for Sinclair to be beholden to us for support for their advertisers? A 'money speaks louder than ideology' strategy?

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:51 PM
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84. Stopping it would not have been censorship imo
Federal Elections law mandates that TV stations avoid partisan shows that benefit one side or the other. This was clearly designed to benefit chimpy from day one. The topic is not news. The whole thing is a travesty ane I'm not satisfied just because it was better than it could have been.

I want real honesty and even-handedness on TV and radio. If that is too much to ask, then what is a democracy for anyway?

I'm not jumping on anyone in particular, I'm just disappointed at how easy it is to satisfy folks here.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:18 PM
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92. I'll defer judgement, then.
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 10:19 PM by party_line
If a program is represented as news, it should be truthful and neutral. Even in presenting facts on a typed page, certain words can evoke positive or negative thoughts about the subject, but just displeasing everyone doesn't mean a journalist has done a good job.

I haven't seen it so I should stop at "yay, the freeps had a disappointing night.

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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:22 PM
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96. It was fine. No worse than some of the stuff I've heard on "Hardball"
or "Scarborough Country."
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:01 PM
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55. I was protesting outside Sinclair's WLOS
So I didn't see the show.
It was a good crowd, I guess about eighty people were there. There have been local people battling Sinclair here for awhile.
see: www.sinclairwatch.net
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LiberalPersona Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:03 PM
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56. LOL, this is hilarious
The republican's free ride backfired eh?
They got what they deserved.
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Soup Bean Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:14 PM
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62. Think about it like this....
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 09:21 PM by Soup Bean
....if someone wanted you to watch a show that they tried to make you hate, wouldn't you want to watch it if their side said that it supported YOUR point? And that they were pissed off that it didn't make their guy look great?

Wouldn't that make even more people want to see it?

Just one way to look at it. :) Maybe it ought to be seen. Who knows? Not me....

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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:19 PM
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68. So, the RNC smearjob backfired. Ain't Karma a bitch?
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:20 PM
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69. I guess Dean was right...
We do have the POWAH! ;)

Amazing.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:22 PM
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70. It wasn't on in my area...
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 09:25 PM by brook
But I took the opportunity to call a relative who'd been a Marine helicopter pilot in Vietnam. I put it to him: "I have a question. You're free not to answer". And then I asked him what he thought about the Swifties and other attacks on Kerry's military credentials. He said that those were - how can I put it? - "Suck ass lies" - yeah, that's pretty much what he had to say. He said that Kerry had earned the right to come back and tell the damned truth. I thought that was pretty important - coming from a guy who did his time there- was shot down - made it home - and is a millionaire today. No thanks to any Bush. My relative isn't sorry he served - but he also agreed that we have no business in Iraq and, of course, the point of my posting this -he beleives that * needs to go. Quote: "He's a fool".


P.S. He also made it clear that supporting troops is far different from supporting ill-concieved wars. I was finally able to tell him that when he came to my house from his survivor training just before he was deployed, how much I hurt because I was already against the war - and yet I loved him so.

Edited for really bad spelling!

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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:57 PM
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87. Sounds like a very worthwhile evening for you in many ways.
:toast:
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:32 PM
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98. Yes.
It really was. I used to baby-sit him. His Mom is my Godmother. They did not have an easy life - but they have suceeded in having a 'good' one.

In fact,amazingly, I've had a couple of recent conversations with family - all of whom I dearly love, even though they're Republicans. They have all said they either have already voted or are going to vote for Kerry. They run the gamut from old line Wall Streeters to over-priced lawyers and widow-coupon clippers. I am encouraged to think that there realy are people out there who are smart enough and willing to admit that * is a bust.
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Joefess Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:27 PM
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74. NEED LINK!
Some cap this and put it on one of the Internets, STAT!!


BTW, Wasn't each Sinclair station suppose to make their own "news" program around this "movie"? So there is potential for man different partisan views depending on the station. Not sure if this was the case though.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:35 PM
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79. So let me get this straight:
The freepers are pissed off because it didn't show Kerry in enough of a fake bad light?
They're mad because it showed him as a person, rather than a force of evil?
They're mad because the show didn't blame responsibility for ALL BAD THINGS THROUGHT TIME on him, including the eruptions of Krakatoa and Vesuvius?
In short: they're mad, because it didn't slander him ENOUGH?
And freepers always claim that they're the good guys, and we're the irrational haters! This should be proof to anyone objective that the freepers are a group of malicious hatemongers.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 09:38 PM
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80. What a bunch of whackjobs
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Free2BMe Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:21 PM
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94. delete
Edited on Fri Oct-22-04 10:22 PM by Free2BMe
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Free2BMe Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 10:21 PM
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95. aww shucks..that readin' was better than a soap opera
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j_carters_neighbor Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-22-04 11:24 PM
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99. They just ahte it
Kick
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 02:54 AM
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101. I wasted an hour reading through 560+ threads, looking for signs of
intelligent conversation. It's striking how devoid they collectively are on their threads. It's like reading the same thing over and over. The so-called vets really hate Kerry. I guess they hate they he helped to stop the senseless slaughter of more Americans and helped to get the POWs released....

BTW, who is the "kerry lover" over there? "revolyrrek" got outed.

:-)
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:35 AM
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102. I watched it, and here's my take on it
But first, LOL at the freepers.

The reporting wasn't balanced. Time given to each side seemed to be close though.

The reporting was clearly biased. Their coverage of the protests was very selective, as they didn't even explain what we were protesting against, just a 'what are they afraid of' vibe. Then they called out someone by name (sorry don't recall who) with the FCC that agreed it was inappropriate, but said that the "FCC CHAIRMAN" sided with Sinclair, failing to mention HIM by name and that he's Powell's son.

Another moment that stands out was about Bush's guard service. They said that he had a 3 month period of time where he didn't show up for duty, and "some people" say that means he was "temporarily AWOL". I laughed. SOME people? And 3 months is Desertion.

Basically, you get an idea of the tone throughout the program.

But to be fair, there was time split up between the two and I was quite surprised to see them air a clip (a good clip too) of Going Upriver. I think what we have here is the bar was so low that when they didn't just slam Kerry ferociously while having a little haloed Bush head in the corner of the screen, it kind of shocked both camps.

Does Sinclair deserve thank you emails? No. Do they deserve really harsh attacks for the coverage? Probably not. It really didn't end up being damaging to Kerry and it took an unexpected shot or two at Bush. We should celebrate our victory though, because it's proof that the voice of the people can still get things done in this country. Sinclair doesn't deserve praise, WE do because we're the ones that made it happen that way.
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 03:42 AM
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103. FUNNY!
Ahahahahah! I love it when freepers pop their veins!
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