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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 08:46 AM
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This is an outrage and another blatant attempt by reTHUGlicans...
...to steal this election:

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October 23, 2004
Big G.O.P. Bid to Challenge Voters at Polls in Key State
By MICHAEL MOSS

Republican Party officials in Ohio took formal steps yesterday to place thousands of recruits inside polling places on Election Day to challenge the qualifications of voters they suspect are not eligible to cast ballots.

Party officials say their effort is necessary to guard against fraud arising from aggressive moves by the Democrats to register tens of thousands of new voters in Ohio, seen as one of the most pivotal battlegrounds in the Nov. 2 elections.

Election officials in other swing states, from Arizona to Wisconsin and Florida, say they are bracing for similar efforts by Republicans to challenge new voters at polling places, reflecting months of disputes over voting procedures and the anticipation of an election as close as the one in 2000.

<link to more> http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/23/politics/campaign/23vote.html?oref=login&th
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 08:47 AM
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1. The election judges need a procedure where they pull
Edited on Sat Oct-23-04 08:47 AM by Eric J in MN
aside the challenger and the voter-being-challenged, and don't let this slow down the line.


Other people need to be able to vote while these arguments are going on.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:06 AM
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4. At my poll-worker class in PA,
a procedure like this was suggested. One poll-worker will be responsible for handling challenges. This will be at a separate table, so that the rest of the line can proceed at its usual pace. It didn't sound as if they were expecting mass challenges, though. Too many challenges could certainly overwhelm the orderly process.

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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 02:05 PM
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12. They should do it that way in Ohio, too (nt)
nt
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 08:47 AM
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2. Let them.
Remember, it's going to be Kerry in a landslide.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 08:49 AM
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3. A novel idea: let the poll workers do their jobs
I know people have a legal right to "poll watch" but at what point does it cross the line to harassment and tampering with an election?
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Larry Tyler Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:08 AM
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5. Im glad that I live in an area that this does not happen
Im not sure where the line is when it comes to poll watching.
What would give one person the right to pull another person out of line and question their right to vote?

It was my understanding that all U.S citizens over the age of 18 could cast a vote for the candidate of their choice. Seems to me that if someone is of legal age, there should really be no question.

How did we ever get to this point in our elections that we have to worry about the integrety of the process?

One thing for sure, with the last 3 or 4 elections being so closely split at 50/50, It is an indication that this country is so split that we may never be able to fix it.
Kerry is the best choice for the next president, hes the only choice actually. * has proven that he is not a leader, he is not presidential, and he has no compassion for the citizens of this country, or the world.
That being said, I have to look at the polls and wonder, with such an even split, could we have picked a better representitive to run in this election? for America to work properly, and for the President to be able to advance his agenda through congress, the numbers should look much better.
I hope that the polls are wrong and on the 2nd we find that President Kerry won by at least a 20% margin, 50/50 does not work.
Perhaps after President Kerry spends 4 years cleaning up the mess, more people will see him as the leader that he is and the next election will find us with the numbers that we need to truley move this country forward.

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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:20 AM
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6. Clinton did a wonderful job cleaning up, and then * runied it
Although I didn't agree with some of the stuff Clinton did, he helped more people than he hurt unlike * but * still has a good following. I don't understand it.
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seaj11 Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:29 AM
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8. Because Bush scares the shit out of people...
that's what the GOP does. Gruesome Old Party, more like. He scares people into following him.
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goddess40 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:39 AM
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10. Do people think the US is like a scary movie or a haunted house
They seem to enjoy being scared, if they would take the time and a little bit of energy - less energy then they use being scared all the time - they would see the truth.

I get that they're afraid, but it seems so willing and disgusting to me.
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Larry Tyler Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:15 AM
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11. Maybe it has to do with where they live
Face it, if you live in Peoria, the threat of terrorist activity is somewhat small.
If however you live in New York, or Washington DC that same threat becomes more of a reality.

before 9/11 who here would have suggested that terrorists would have attacked the U.S on our own soil? I wouldnt have.

Now, the threat is real, and to top it off we have a president that seems hell bent to increase the hate that is directed towards the U.S and in my opinion increase the threat of another attack.

So yes, I think that people in certain areas might have reason to feel more fear than people that live in other areas.

Look at it this way, if a nuke device were detonated in the heart of Washington DC, you in WI, would have little chance of being affected by the blast, or the fallout. It would be an inconveinence to you, but that is about the extent of it. If however you lived around DC, that detonation would be somewhat detrimental to your health directly.

Does this make any sense to you that some might have a different opinion on the threat than others based on their location?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:25 AM
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7. Somehow, I can't see this happening in NM
The judge at the polling place I used didn't look like he was in any mood to tolerate obstructors from anybody's side. Since this is such a multicultural area, I can well imagine any haples brownshirts being found the following morning, beaten to a pulp in the alley.

I can't imagine this right wing scum could get away with any of this stuff in any but solidly right wing precincts.

The civil rights cases coming up after this election are going to be nasty. I think a lot of Freepers are going to have to learn the hard way why it's not a good idea to commit felonies.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 09:29 AM
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9. See this post also...
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