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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:43 AM
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We should be screaming about Hillsborough Co, FL voting.
The Democratic candidate for the job is outing the Jeb-appointed official there, and no one is really paying attention. Rob is a Dean Dozen, a computer expert, and a very outspoken candidate. We should be supporting his efforts there. The St. Pete Times endorsed him, and so the did the Tampa Tribune. Here are two articles from the Times this week. This is outrageous...and it is being ignored.

An internal report says the Hillsborough elections supervisor wasn't told about the discrepancy until Sept. 16.
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/22/Hillsborough/Staff_hid_missing_vot.shtml
Staff hid missing votes 13 days
SNIP..."TAMPA - On Sept. 3, one day after the Hillsborough County Canvassing Board met and certified the results of the primary election, Hillsborough Supervisor of Elections Buddy Johnson's staff made a startling discovery.

Their records seemed to show that 245 voters had cast ballots the elections office couldn't find.

Those 245 votes were significant. They had the potential to change the outcome of at least one race: In the Republican primary for the District 47 seat in the Florida House of Representatives, Bill Bunkley had lost to Kevin Ambler by just 130 votes.

Yet Johnson's staff told no one outside the elections office about the 245 vote discrepancy, according to an internal report obtained by the St. Petersburg Times that details the investigation into the lost votes...."

Lost votes should oust official, opponent says
Rob MacKenna says Buddy Johnson misled officials and should resign from his post.

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/23/Hillsborough/Lost_votes_should_ous.shtml
SNIP..."TAMPA - Rob MacKenna, Democratic challenger for supervisor of elections, accused incumbent Buddy Johnson Friday of providing an "inaccurate and misleading account" of his office's loss of 245 votes in the August primary and suggested Johnson "should be drawing a paycheck elsewhere."

In a noon news conference, MacKenna backed his charges with evidence from an internal report on 245 votes lost when an elections worker mistakenly left a touch screen voting machine in the "test" mode....."END SNIP



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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:47 AM
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1. These reports are spreading like wildfire -- do we have the resources...
and people on the ground to deal with them?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:50 AM
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2. make sure it gets reported HERE:
at this GREAT site, http://www.votersunite.org/electionproblems.asp

and copy this thread to the state forum.....
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:52 AM
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4. I will copy to state forum if you will post to the voters unite.
Not signed up there yet. I was, I thought, but now I am not...need to check on it.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:53 AM
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5. Good link. Thanks.
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GregD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:55 AM
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12. ok, got that added
thanks for your post.

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:52 AM
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3. Where the hell is the outrage?! We need to put the screws to these fucks.
I'm sick of hearing from the Repugnant how it's the Dems are trying to steal this election. It's so obvious : accuse the victim before you get blamed yourself. Would love to see a link to all their fraudulent, illegal shenanigans.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:59 AM
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7. Just saw a report on CNN International, usually an anger-free zone...
but they must rely on CNN domestic for U.S. politics. Election chicanery was discussed totally within a context of both sides doing it. I was so angry, I waited on hold on CNN's viewer comment line for half an hour before the expense of the call became just too much --
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MsMagnificent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 10:58 AM
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6. *kick*
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:21 AM
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8. A kick because I think it is important.
:kick:
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ajmstpete Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:27 AM
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9. Did you see the news last night?
There are people going around to houses where the people are voting absentee ballots and telling them that they work for the county election board and are picking up absentee ballots as a service to the community and to save people postage. The Tampa NBC affiliate did a story on it last night and had an election commissioner from Manatee county saying that this is NOT a service being offered. He also told people that they either need to mail the ballot or bring it in to the office. My partner and I are both voting absentee, I will be delivering it in person. How low will they go?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:34 AM
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10. Saw it, and our county had some problems with that.
One of our friends is an election lawyer here, and he got the heads up the other day. They just call the home and say they will pick up the ballot to save you the trouble.

No way to know who has fallen for it.
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cynthia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 11:34 AM
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11. kick
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