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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 12:38 PM
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history will judge the MEDIA harshly
there's just NO WAY you can understand what's going on in shrub's presidency or in this campaign or in this election without understanding what's going on in the media.

there's just NO WAY you can explain even the POSSIBILITY of shrub winning without putting the media in a very unfavorable light. shrub has been the WORST PRESIDENT EVER. if there's ANY doubt at all, it's whether or not hoover was worse, or maybe one or two others.

but there's just NO WAY any president could stand a shot in hell at re(s)election given everything that's happened on his watch. remember how carter got torn to shreds over inflation and the hostage situation? NEITHER of which was his fault, and BOTH of which he took reasonable attempts to fix?

shrub had been president during that time, with the media as it is today, they would have turned the hostage situation into a huge advantage, we need republicans to stand up, democrats would have cut a deal by now, but we must remain strong. and the inflation? well, look at today's deficit and economy, the media acts like no one cares! if shrub were president back then, they would have said that democrats would spend and make inflation worse.


winning this election will be nice, but we MUST FIX THE MEDIA!!
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TimeToGo Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 12:39 PM
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1. Amen
It is as important as anything.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 12:41 PM
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2. Agreed. The media is broken and must be fixed. How?
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 12:43 PM
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4. For one,
break up the media monopolies. Splinter them into a million pieces.
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 12:43 PM
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3. No doubt about it
The PIPA poll is a damning indictment of the media.
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ClevelandSportsCurse Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 12:44 PM
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5. What's the PIPA poll? n/t
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 12:47 PM
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6. Here you go
Bush Supporters Still Believe Iraq Had WMD or Major Program,
Supported al Qaeda


http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/html/new_10_21_04.html
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ClevelandSportsCurse Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 12:55 PM
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9. Thanks.
That is quite damning. It's also very tragic too.
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prayin4rain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 12:50 PM
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7. I hope so...but it seems the media controls history too. Columbus
discovered America...please. And about a million other falsehoods we learn as fact as youngsters in school.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 12:52 PM
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8. Case making Corporate ownership of the media unconstitutional?
Edited on Sat Oct-23-04 12:55 PM by wurzel
It could be argued that a Corporate owned press is unconstitutional because it violates the First Amendment. A Corporate owned press cannot be a free press. The ownership by Corporations of the press was permitted by government law. But the government is forbidden to make laws that abridge the freedom of the press. Does this make sense?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 12:56 PM
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10. some of the media need to be judged by military tribunals
harshly
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 05:58 PM
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11. See my sig line -- our press has failed us...
and endangered the system the Founders put in place.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 07:29 PM
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12. It could reasonably be described as a GROSS DERELICTION OF DUTY.
Edited on Sat Oct-23-04 07:31 PM by calimary
The GROSSEST OF ALL. Horrible. Disgraceful. Nearly unforgivable. They're nothing but enablers. It's just been a shame, and a sham. Hugely embarrassing! I truly am embarrassed, sometimes, to admit I used to be in the news business. The operative words in there: "USED to be." I'm glad I'm far removed from it now. I'd hate to have my name still attached, particularly since I used to work with Wendell Goler (now of the Pox "news" network - I think he just was desperate to get his face on camera while he was still young enough, and Pox came along with a good offer to lift him up out of radio) and Candy Crowley - who also probably wanted the higher profile and the better pay. The AP pays poorly. You do get some pretty solid job security if you survive the nine-month probation, but the pay is for shit, especially considering the workload they pile on you.
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-23-04 07:38 PM
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13. Jon Stewart will go down in history as a prophet
The Edward R. Murrow or Walter Cronkite of his age. God help us.
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