Early voting brings cries of bullying

[OneBlueSky]

this sounds like another Rovian production to me (i.e. trying to establish a basis for contesting the election results) . . . apparently these people will stop at nothing . . .

By Brittany Wallman
Sun-Sentinal
October 23, 2004

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-pglitch23oct23,0,3825651,print.story?coll=sfla-news-palm

(snip)

Elaine Fandino complained to the Republican Party that she took her mother to vote on South Military Trail in Palm Beach County and was confronted by 25 people supporting John Kerry for president. The crowd was "very angry and used foul language," she reported. She said the man next to her said, "Where's my shotgun?"

In Broward County, at the regional library in Pembroke Pines, a voter complained that Kerry supporters used abusive language about President Bush and had signs and banners within 50 feet of the entrance.

Kerry supporters were "shoving anti-Bush propaganda at us," complained the voter, who said he shouted back "Vote President Bush!"

A woman who voted in Plantation at the West Regional Courthouse said she was offended to see five or six people with "huge stick on badges" for Kerry/Edwards, standing near the voting machines.

(snip)

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-pglitch23oct23,0,3825651,print.story?coll=sfla-news-palm

[billybob537]

1. That's exactly

the type of reverse pshycology they use.

[Bunny]

2. It's called projection.

They accuse us of doing the exact thing they are doing.

[noamnety]

3. Elaine Fandino? Hmmmm.

"George W. Bush supporter Elaine Fandino, center front, demonstrates with other Cuban Americans in West Palm Beach, Fla., Sunday, Nov. 12, 2000. Palm Beach County election officials awarded three dozen additional votes to Al Gore following a mechanical recount on Saturday and then decided that all 425,000 votes cast last week should be counted by hand. "

http://www.thehollandsentinel.net/stories/111300/new_Campaigns.html

Parlocked.

[enough]

4. lsfern, that is a very neat piece of sleuthing.

Hope this little nugget gets around.

[madfloridian]

5. Another pic of Elaine Fandino....busy little lady.

http://uk.fc.yahoo.com/041018/46/f4ssa.html
Kerry-Edwards supporter Mark Gobeo, left, talks with Bush-Cheney supporters Elaine Fandino, center, and Esperanza Casabona as Gobeo and Fandino wait to vote early Monday, Oct. 18, 2004 at the Supervisor of Elections Office in West Palm Beach, Fla. (AP Photo/Wilfredo Lee) Height (pixels): 342 Width (pixels): 512

[noamnety]

7. she's complaining about the Kerry supporter?!!

WTF? She looks real intimidated, and upset about him campaigning outside the polling place, yep.

[madfloridian]

16. Her sign is bigger, and she is the one who looks intimidating.

Interesting, so interesting.

[Blue_Roses]

21. geeze..they're doing it all over again? where is the media?

someone needs to email this ...but thinking of all the media whores now--who?:shrug:

[noamnety]

6. let's see who else complained

Juan D'Arce - seems to be pretty active. http://www.oncampusdebates.org/1_campuscontacts.html

[madfloridian]

14. Yes, he is busy. Looking for an eagle and a rabbi.

http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/miamiherald/2003/04/11/news/local/5607349.htm

SNIP..."Eagle, rabbi, singer: these were some of the key players in the vigil Juan D'Arce, president of the Miami-Dade Lions Club, envisioned last week in support of American troops stationed at home and abroad. But each presented challenges.

The rabbi: ''The rabbi was a little difficult to obtain,'' D'Arce confided. ``Passover is coming up and a lot of them are just up to their ears in work. We had one lined up who had to cancel at the last minute.''

The singer: ``We were looking for someone kind of high-profile, you know? We had conversations with Gloria Estafan's people and John Secada's people but, unfortunately, it seems like they were both out of town.''

The eagle: ``We went to Parrot Jungle and the Miami Zoo. They didn't have any. We checked the Octagon Preserve in Fort Lauderdale and Busch Gardens up in Tampa. This one had one eye. That wouldn't have been such a huge deal. We figured it's such a majestic bird it might not have to fly or anything but just by its being there it would be a symbol of power..."

[annabanana]

8. nailed!

This is exactly the kind of crap that we have to watch out for, esp in Fla & Ohio!! It is SO COOL that we can finally put the kaibosh on this stuff before it gathers too much steam!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. I Voted Early Today In FL

but if some freeper tried to prevent me from voting I would have knocked him on his ass

[AnIndependentTexan]

10. Could this be why GOP STOMP wanted freepers?

[TheWebHead]

11. I think we should remind Brittany Wallman

about the notion of balance. It's apparent she made no efforts to pursue claims of Republican bullying and used activist Republicans in her story.

and another guy in the story, Lawrence Gottfried, filed a lawsuit in the 2000 election @ Palm Beach County Circuit Court.
http://webloria.loria.fr/~roegel/uselection2000/elec-letter.pdf

[noamnety]

12. I sent Brittany an email about Elaine

Let's keep the emails flowing. Anyone contact the Florida dems yet on this, so they can respond to the press appropriately?

[noamnety]

13. Is this the same Lawrence Gottfried?

"Lawrence Gottfried is the "other" BVA attorney convicted of obstructing veterans claims."

http://www.willpete.com/from.htm

[madfloridian]

15. Whoa, check it out. DU thread is now linked at the Sun Sentinel.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-pglitch23oct23,0,3825651,print.story?coll=sfla-news-palm

[sherilocks]

17. Just e-mailed all this wonderful research to

BW Waltham and left a message on her voice-mail.

[madfloridian]

18. Did you notice they linked to my other thread I started on this?

They changed the link, so I linked back to this thread. :shrug:

I don't think I have ever seen a paper do that....just not comment, just link to a forum.

[sherilocks]

22. Where?

Sorry, my dogs are sitting with their legs crossed, waiting for me to walk them, so I probably overlookded the link. But I can't find it.

[DrBB]

24. Link at the very top of the page

On edit: changed post to reflect my feeble eyes finally spotting the link. Sheesh.

[Clinton Crusader]

19. brilliant sleuthing! KICK!!!!

everyone should see this, keep kicked!!!

:kick:

[fugop]

20. This is what they're up to

Again, the Washington Post article today about voter mobilization efforts pointed out that Dems activists are very open about what their goals and plans are, while the GOP activists are refusing to talk to the press, as instructed by the RNC, about anything. I also noted that the GOP is paying their activists.

Seeing a thread like this explains exactly why they're being secretive. It seems the coordinated plan involves a lot of lying and potentially a "wolf in sheep's clothing" kinda strategy, i.e. dress up Repubs as Dems and then act like Repubs and threaten folks.

[DrBB]

23. This is a CLASSIC Rove preemption tactic

The preemptive assertion that the other side is doing exactly what YOU'RE planning on doing, thus insulating you against criticism. "Wul, they STARTED it!"--straight out of the Rove playbook.

[DrBB]

25. About that link to DU on the Sentinel page

I've NEVER seen a newspaper do something like that before. And it's a weird link too--just a raw url with no text explaining what it is.

I gotta say, I think somebody on our side works at the Sentinel and somehow got that link in there. I don't think it's a standard thing at all.

[madfloridian]

26. It appears to not be there if you go to this link.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/palmbeach/sfl-pglitch23oct23,0,6501068.story

I did a search at the paper's website. I can not figure it out. Maybe on the print page of the article? But why?

[madfloridian]

27. They quote Tom Feeney, Florida's own Tom DeLay

Who knows, he might be the next "Hammer." Didn't he get to be a US congressman after his role in the 2000 election? Did they research the folks they interviewed at all?

Remember his "loser" remarks in 2000? Oh, yeah, I do.
http://www.sptimes.com/News/121500/State/Feeney_apologizes_for.shtml

TALLAHASSEE --SNIP..." House Speaker Tom Feeney says he has learned he'll have to give up "dumb jokes" for the next two years.

Feeney spent much of Thursday apologizing for remarks he made at a private party Wednesday night.

The Orlando Sentinel reported the comments were made at a GOP victory party at Po Boys, a restaurant a couple of blocks from the state Capitol.

"What a loser," Feeney was quoted as saying while he watched Vice President Al Gore's concession speech. Feeney also was quoted as calling it "an evil speech." Feeney admits making comments about the speech, but insists it was all a joke among friends. ..."

[madfloridian]

31. A big Feeney kick. Never forget his "loser" remark.

How dare the article quote one of the most partisan guys in congress.

[ldf]

28. russert used this issue as one of his questions

i believe it was terry macaulif (spelling?) on the sunday morning talk fest.

he asked terry specifically about the "woman who was intimidated by the kerry thugs in florida".

terry answered and answered, but did not answer the question russert asked. you know how they are.

i thought on one du thread here it was already pointed out that this woman did the same thing in 2000. not sure though.

[madfloridian]

29. Just did an archive search and could not find her name.

I am afraid our guys on TV are often not up on things anyway. Sometimes when I am watching TV I want to answer for our Democratic spokesmen. Then I yell when they give a less than thorough answer.

[Dem2theMax]

30. I have to say, DU'ers are the best.

Can't believe how fast all of you 'parlocked' this story. lol. I love it. And I'm kicking it because this has to get out there.

:kick: