Has *ANY* media reported the new video of explosives at Al QaQaa?

[Skinner]

For those of you who missed it, a Minnesota local news station has video which they believe to show explosives from Al QaQaa on April 18, 2003. If true, this completely blows away the Bush spin.

http://www.kstp.com/article/stories/S3723.html?cat=1

http://kstp.dayport.com/viewer/viewerpage.php?Art_ID=159660

But has this been reported *ANYWHERE* today, other than liberal blogs?

[cheezus]

1. kstp says the tapes are being analyzed by security experts

and after the rather memo flap, i can't blame the msm for not jumping on this one.

[Clinton Crusader]

2. Ive had CNN on since 11am and they have NOT

most is about Arafat..

:kick:

[Proud2BAmurkin]

3. Hoping it will be timed just right to dominate WEEKEND and next monday

!

[Cush]

4. of course not

I wonder if Olbermann will pick it up?

[msongs]

5. more hysteria?

"has video which they believe to show" does NOT mean it actually shows.
maybe confirmation is in order, eh?

Msongs
Riverside CA

[Bandit]

40. What would you consider confirmation?

How about the person who took the video saying they are authentic. Would that be enough? It is obvious to me that they are what they claim to be just by the labeling on the containers. Just because they are not on the Major Media doesn't mean they are not getting out and pretty soon that will be the news whether they are authenticated or not. Just like the LIES from the Swift Boat Vets. It was the fact they were made that was news not the content. And the same should hold true with these videos. The news is that they are being spread around the internet.

[manic]

74. Internets, darling

they are being spread around the internet*s*

[George_S]

65. Like the confirmation of the satellite view of the trucks your mean?

[tabasco]

6. Waiting to see it on CNN.

They will rush to report the spin fairy tales about Russian commandos but when there are PICTURES as evidence, they will probably need to "examine" it closer before reporting it. Journalistic standards and all, ya' know?

[rlev1223]

7. I Just sent the link to about 20

So I'm sure they'll jump on it ASAP

[BUSHOUT]

8. Does Washington Dispatch count?

I've sent an email to the full list.

They won't sit on it for long. They're likely waiting for 5EYEWITNESS to come back with the followup from the "Washington experts" like they spoke about at the end of the report.

[Carni]

9. No, the bastards just keep parroting the moonie times "article"

So called article...this is REALLY pissing me off!

[ThoughtCriminal]

10. Tomorrow

They prefer to release bad news for * on Friday

[Carni]

11. I swear this facility was one of the bogus "we found the WMD" sites

This is driving me NUTS...

I am almost positive that Al Qaqaa was one of the sites where the whore media reported (falsely) that they had found WMD back in the early summer of 03 (the old pending tests line that they used to give about once a week and then the tests were always negative)

I cannot find any of the old articles I want on the web because now there are thirty million listings about "Al Qaqaa" on google! Arrrrggghhh!

[Beetwasher]

14. Yes, It Was, They Thought They Found A Nerve Agent (White Powder)

and that white powder turned out to actually be explosives. In fact, the explosives they turned out to be had an uncanny resemblance to the stuff that is now missing. Put two and two together.

[joanski01]

30. That picture just cracked me up.

I love it!!

[shelley806]

61. Exactly!!!

Stephanie has tons of threads...but search is out. I think I downloaded it. One on Tuwaitha.........

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

[tabasco]

19. You are correct.

I saw an old news item here on DU, yesterday I think, with a report that American troops had found bunkers full of suspicious white powder at Al Quqaa.

Maybe search the threads on this topic.

Keep looking! Good luck !

[Carni]

Thanks to both of you!

The white powder clue gives me something to work with!

[truthpusher]

12. haven't seen anything yet-just checked

[soleft]

13. Doesn't look like any statement from KSTP from Kerry camp either

Maybe they're waiting for confirmation that the explosives in the vid are the missing explosives, and once it's confirmed and kerry makes a statement, someone has to cover it. Right? :shrug:

[priapis]

15. Josh Marshall Talking POints has it up

[chiburb]

16. Josh Marshall has it, with a link to KSTP...

I think "some" DUer(s) tipped him off...

;-)

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/index-old.php

[goodhue]

17. seems to have been ignored so far

[Demfromct]

21. Be patient people

The NYT, Post and the news networks have to verify the video. live. You have to wait until someone does some legwork and the anchors are briefed.

I bet something will be on the evening news. The anchors on live can't do reporting while they are on live. Everyone, even Bushie, knows it is out there. Word travels fast. But they can't have a report up in 2 hours wihtout having someone analyze the tape. Did someone ping drudge? (LMAO).

If this is true, it is an explosive story.

[goodhue]

26. how long will it take?

Why couldn't this make ABC news tonight?

[geek tragedy]

46. Are you THE DemfromCt of Kos fame?

A hearty welcome to DU either way.

[goodhue]

18. truthout

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102904Y.shtml

[kokomo]

20. This is EXPLOSIVE !!!

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

Hannity, Limbaugh, Drudge, Bush, and the rest of the right-wing
slime machine should have to eat Qa Qaa!

[bluedog]

22. c-span

has SOROS on it and said he is waiting to confirm to see if this is indeed the sme site as the video..so its coming out.

[Bossy Monkey]

23. Washington Dispatch (assuming that isn't a liberal blog)

http://www.washingtondispatch.com/spectrum/archives/000690.html
Presumably they got it from us or Truthout.

[zaj]

47. TWD's "National Editor" is a TOTAL Bush shill...

http://www.washingtondispatch.com/page2/index.html

I know him "personally" from a sports board. He's shameless...

I've actually watched him on Fox News as an "analyst".

[riverwalker]

24. FOX is blaming 3rd ID and military

that's their stance. Nothing yet on CNN.

[Goldmund]

27. Blaming them for what?

[grl2watch]

25. juancole.com has it n/t

[Nederland]

28. Be patient

We need more proof before the MSM picks this up.

Right now, all there is on that video is shots of material that could be nothing more than primative gunpowder.

[goodhue]

31. Explosive material present on April 18 has since gone missing.

What more is needed?

[Nederland]

37. These would be nice:

1) An IAEA seal.
2) Confirmation that the material shown is not merely 1.1D, but RDX and/or HMX.

[StlMo]

39. One report said the IAEA seal would only be on the building.

One report said the IAEA seal would only be on the building (not individual containers).

[goodhue]

41. What if it is "merely 1.1D" but not RDX and/or HMK?

What difference does that make? It is still explosive materials labelled as such at Al Qaqaa on April 18 when taped by embeds with military. Embeds noted lack of any security. Nothing is there now. Where did it go?

[Goldmund]

32. Check this out

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1198046

[joanski01]

29. George Soros said he had

just received this information. He was giving a speech at the National Press Club LIVE on C-Span at 1:00 p.m.

[Shrek]

33. National Review is talking about it

If you can stand to visit their site.

[StlMo]

34. Air America Radio is covering it thoroughly.

Al Franken played audio of the KSTP report.

[StlMo]

35. Al Franken Show:

Edited for punctuation

Al Franken Show:

http://www.airamericaradio.com/weblogs/alfrankenshow

[WilliamPitt]

36. Truthout has

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/102904Y.shtml

[slestak]

38. for what it's worth

I sent it to every major media outlet in my state, and I got the Santa Fe New Mexican to put a link to the story on their home page. Haven't heard from the other outlets yet.

[NashVegas]

42. Moonie Times

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20041028-040513-6948r.htm

Also Thursday, a Minnesota local news channel announced it had footage of U.S. soldiers examining large quantities of explosives and ammunition on April 18 at al-Qaqaa and then leaving the bunkers unlocked and unguarded. Station 5 Eyewitness News passed the footage on to the U.S. government to determine whether any of the pictured material is related to the missing explosives.

[Skinner]

45. Oh, great. So the media is waiting to hear back from the U. S. Government?

I'm sure the government is working really hard to get them an answer asap. :eyes:

The media all repeat the thoroughly discredited lie that Russian special ops took the explosives. But for some reason, they decide to get all cautious and rediscover their integrity when the story might go our way. What a bunch of crap.

[NashVegas]

63. Aye

tidbit -

C-SPAN's watching me right now; editors from Nat'l Review & Vanity Fair are on, talking about political books and election influence. This story was just mentioned while talking about Bernard Goldberg's Bias. One of them (not sure which, sorry) speculated that if Bush loses the election, the RW blogosphere is going to blame the "liberal media" for trotting out this story.

If they do, someone's going to have to remind the idjits the story originated on an independently owned ABC affiliate whose owning family are Republican contributors.

[The_Casual_Observer]

43. The fact that nothing is happening yet is good. It is like

the silent wind up part at the beginning of a baby's scream.

Kerry's first act ought to be indictments for the whole bunch of them for this one.

[independentpiney]

44. I sent links to thatand new NYT article to all the cablewhores this am

Still haven't seen anything. Their playing up the 'wild allegations by Kerry' and 'removed before the war with Russian help' spin. Asking if this hurts * or Kerry?

[aeschylus]

48. Salon: "Al Qaqaa story continues to explode"

From Salon:

"An ABC affiliate in Minneapolis is reporting today that it may have evidence of the hundreds of tons of powerful explosives missing from Al Qaqaa in Iraq, in footage taken at the site by one of the station's news crews well after U.S. troops invaded Iraq."

Try this as a link (although you may need to register for their day pass):

<http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html#mn_washtimes>

By the way, I had emailed Sydney Blumenthal as soon as the story broke on DU. It may have worked.

[Cooley Hurd]

49. New info from KSTP: IAEA seals on doors in video!

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S3741.html?cat=1





A 5 Eyewitness News crew in Iraq may have been just a door away from materials that could be used to detonate nuclear weapons. The evidence is in videotape shot by Reporter Dean Staley and Photographer Joe Caffrey at or near the Al Qaqaa munitions facility.

The video shows a cable locking a door shut. That cable is connected by a copper colored seal.

A spokesperson for the International Atomic Energy Agency told 5 Eyewitness News that seal appears to be one used by their inspectors. "In Iraq they were used when there was a concern that this could have a, what we call, dual use purpose, that there could be a nuclear weapons application."

[wellstone dem]

50. That's great

the freepers were all making a big deal about there not being any IAEA seals on the materials. That was their proof this wasn't the missing explosives. Somebody needs to post this over at freeperville, it will break their hearts.

[KelleyKramer]

55. Bingo! 4 straight days of lying by Bush!

That picture alone of the UN seal proves bush has been lying all week about this!

Bush is a totally BUSTED as a LIAR.

Bush is toast!

[kostya]

51. ABC News had it on.

[Cooley Hurd]

52. Here's the abcnews.com link:

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=206847

<snip>
Experts who have studied the images say the barrels on the tape contain the high explosive HMX, and the U.N. markings on the barrels are clear.

"I talked to a former inspector who's a colleague of mine, and he confirmed that, indeed, these pictures look just like what he remembers seeing inside those bunkers," said David Albright, president of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington.

The barrels were found inside sealed bunkers, which American soldiers are seen on the videotape cutting through. Inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency sealed the bunkers where the explosives were kept just before the war began.

"The seal's critical," Albright said. "The fact that there's a photo of what looks like an IAEA seal means that what's behind those doors is HMX. They only sealed bunkers that had HMX in them."
</snip>

[leftchick]

53. ABC Evening News Coverage....LINK!

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=206847

~snip~

Experts who have studied the images say the barrels on the tape contain the high explosive HMX, and the U.N. markings on the barrels are clear.

"I talked to a former inspector who's a colleague of mine, and he confirmed that, indeed, these pictures look just like what he remembers seeing inside those bunkers," said David Albright, president of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington.

The barrels were found inside sealed bunkers, which American soldiers are seen on the videotape cutting through. Inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency sealed the bunkers where the explosives were kept just before the war began.

"The seal's critical," Albright said. "The fact that there's a photo of what looks like an IAEA seal means that what's behind those doors is HMX. They only sealed bunkers that had HMX in them."

[leftchick]

54. It Has Made Yahoo!!! LBN Link...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=940666#940697

[Chicago Democrat]

57. My letter to NPR regarding their Bogus Parroting of Bush's view...

and given equal weight to Republicans lying as Democratic Truth.

You reported in the All Things Considered that the High Explosives at Al QaQaa were looted at an undetermined time echoing the FALSE statements of the President...They were clearly looted after April 3, 2004 as these photos prove see:

http://www.dailykos.com/

see the story

Embeds bite Bush in the ass
by kos
Thu Oct 28th, 2004 at 21:59:17 GMT

Oops. Looks like those embeds with the 101st in Iraq got pictures of the very same high explosives that later went missing. All of it captured on tape by the Minneapolis/St. Paul ABC affiliate.

Please report facts as they come to light.

Why was this covered up for 18 months? Please correct this crucial error on air. Bush clearly is trying to muddy the waters which are crystal clear...


Sincerely,
WBEZ listener Chicago IL

[leftchick]

68. great job....

the energy it takes to press the media on any subject negative to bush* is astounding. I hope this turns out to be as huge a story as it should be.

[goodhue]

56. ABC

It remains unclear how much HMX was at the facility, but what does seem clear is that the U.S. military opened the bunkers at Al-Qaqaa and left them unguarded. Since then, the material has disappeared.

ABC News' Martha Raddatz filed this report for World News Tonight.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=206847

[Bossy Monkey]

58. AP still has it buried in their foolish Rumsfeld denial story

as follows:
Meanwhile, an ABC affiliate in Minneapolis that had a crew embedded with the 101st Airborne Division during the war released a video that it said showed soldiers examining explosives at part of the Al-Qaqaa facility on April 18, 2003. But the television station said it remained unclear if the explosives were the high-energy explosives that are missing.

Previously, the unit's spokesman has said it did not find any of the high-energy explosives, but some less-dangerous explosives.
(more bs, but it's above rather than below; this is literally the end of the article)
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_IRAQ_WEAPONS?SITE=SCCOL&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

[steve2470]

59. It is on Paula Zahn on CNN right now. nt

[goodhue]

60. big kick for Dean Staley

[goodhue]

62. kick

Where are the rest of the stories?

[rndmprsn]

64. scheifer just did on larry king

could have knocked me over with a feather

[NashVegas]

66. Trickling In

Kentucky.com - Vast amounts of weapons-related material missing, official says

http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/news/politics/10040891.htm

That's a Knight-Ridder write-up, btw.

Seattle's King TV station:

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_102804WABalqaqaaKC.1394252.html

Some AZ Fox station:

http://www.fox11az.com/news/other/stories/KMSB-20041028-kingbp-explosives.1a1ec55.html

[LSK]

67. Oberman led it off on MSNBC

Its out there now!!!

[goodhue]

69. any MSNBC link?

[goodhue]

70. Star Tribune . . .

http://www.startribune.com/stories/1762/5058187.html

[peekaloo]

71. NBC carried it this a.m. and damn if Matt Lauer didn't rub it in

Paul Bremer's face. Also shown was Rudy G.'s video of blaming the troops.

Blood in the water. *sniff*

[NCFedUp]

72. Long story on NPR this morning

NPR reported on this story about 6:15am Eastern Standard this morning and added their own investigative reporting to it. The story was conclusive that the ammo was there when the military first arrived.

Don't know if they've repeated the story later in the morning. Can't find it on their web site.

I was listening to WUNC out of Chapel Hill, NC.

[goodhue]

73. On NPR this morning

[NCFedUp]

75. New York Times reports

Video Shows G.I.'s at Weapon Cache
By WILLIAM J. BROAD and DAVID E. SANGER

Published: October 29, 2004


Videotape made by a television crew with American troops when they opened bunkers at a sprawling Iraqi munitions complex south of Baghdad shows a huge supply of explosives still there nine days after the fall of Saddam Hussein, apparently including some sealed earlier by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/29/politics/29bomb.html?th

[Zuni]

76. I e-mailed it to all the cable news networks and some newspapers

but I had a busy evening last night and couldn't check.