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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:02 PM
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DNC to choose whether Dean is past or future
So why does the Globe refer to Internet organizing and fund-raising, staged protests, sloganeering — as coming uncomfortably close to those actions of the political fringe - and a bad mark on Dean?

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2005/01/18/dnc_to_choose_whether_dean_is_past_or_future?pg=2

DNC to choose whether Dean is past or future
By Peter S. Canellos, Globe Staff | January 18, 2005

WASHINGTON -- While George and Laura Bush are rushing from parade to parties to balls on Thursday, with most of official Washington joining them in the traditional bipartisan display of unity, Howard Dean will be cohosting ''un-inauguration" house parties of disgusted Democrats across the country, collecting money to oppose Bush's policies.

A year ago this week, the former Vermont governor stood on an invisible mountain of endorsements, Internet-fueled fund-raising, and magazine covers as the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, only to watch the whole thing collapse with a major defeat in the Iowa caucuses that seemed to destroy him along with his hopes. (A David Letterman spoof of Dean's famous ''scream" during his Iowa concession speech had his head exploding.)

But Dean never stopped working and organizing, and now he's mounting a credible campaign to be chairman of the Democratic National Committee. And he's making the same intriguing offer he did a year ago -- taking the fight to Bush -- albeit with vastly lower stakes. Though centrist in his background and credentials, Dean is a partisan tiger on the campaign trail. Like the people of Iowa a year ago, the 447 voting members of the DNC are deciding whether to indulge their inner anger at the White House and toss him into the national ring.<snip>

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:06 PM
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1. Not sure, this post may explain.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:08 PM
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2. Kerry is post ellection more feeling, more forceful :-)
It is Time for Dean as DNC Chair.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:54 PM
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7. Time to listen to us, not him.
"The members of the DNC from Massachusetts have decided to wait until we hear the candidates and then decide how we will each vote. We are also going to take into consideration Senator Kerry's feelings on the issue."

First sentence, fine. 2nd sentence...listen to us instead.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:55 PM
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8. Kerry is the past, Dean is the future
Kerry blew the election of a lifetime because he tried to be just like Bush. Kerry doesn't deserve any input into the DNC process.
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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:09 PM
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3. Ignore >> Laugh >> Fight >>
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.". Mahatma Gandhi

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:10 PM
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4. DNC to choose? So they THINK!
Somebody tell them that WE get to have a voice in things too.

They have a recent history of rolling over and playing dead while Dr. Dean hit the pavement and worked his ass off.

He showed others how to use the tool of the internet and harness a lot of energy and attention when the media was just not gonna give us a voice. He got people out of their own living rooms and into comittees! He revitalized the party and got an awful lot of old-school, fiscal responsibility, we are all Americans and should work together sort of Republicans thinking they could vote a Dem ticket if he got the nod!

DNC gets to choose?!?! :wtf: They aren't the boss of me. Are they the boss of you!

Dr. Dean for whatever he wants to go for!
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:36 PM
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5. Great post. Whatever he wants to go for.
LOL
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 12:39 PM
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6. contact your state DNC delegates
They are supposed to represent YOU. Tell them who you think should be DNC chair and why. You might find they agree with you.

Of course, I think the DNC will be worth a whole lot less in the greater scheme of things if Dr. Dean isn't elected. But I'm optimistic.
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 02:08 PM
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11. THEY ARE NOT THE BOSS OF ME EITHER!
Love it.
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ecoalex Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 01:00 PM
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9. DNC DLC anti Dean
Who do you think scuttled Dean in Iowa? The corporate Dems in Washington will never allow a populist. Like any skewed election and true to Iowa - style, Dean has no chance of heading the party.The op honchos will see to that.Why we need a progressive party from the bottom up. Dean needs to go independent, to lose the shackles of the DNC DLC.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 01:26 PM
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10. Yep, so we need to let them know THEY are obsolete unless they listen
up. Then we need to carry it out.
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n2mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 02:10 PM
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12. This morning I heard
that Dean has more votes then anyone else to become DNC chair but not over 50%. Do I assume you have to have the 50% and not the number of votes? The conversation was interesting, they were saying as much as the Dem. party talks about moving to the middle, they are moving to the left. Maybe someone heard this program, I think it was someone by the name of Bennett? When I woke up early this morning this was being discussed on my radio. I was a little confused with the conversation, I thought it was a Dem. station but again got the impression it was a puke station. I've never heard Bennett before.

At 5:30am, one is not totally awake, sometimes I am, not this morning as my dog kept me awake all night. He kept wanting to go outdoors.
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