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Guns Aximbo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:20 PM
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Time for a socialist in the house or senate. Who agrees?
there is a need for a true socialist now that there is only one party in the house and senate.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:21 PM
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1. Wasn't Bernie Sanders from VT supposed to be one?
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:23 PM
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2. Yeah, look up Bernie Sanders' work...he's a socialist n/t
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:26 PM
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3. Better than some of these
republican nut bags were stuck with.
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Guns Aximbo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:27 PM
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4. Who?
Never heard of him. I'll have to look him up. Thanks
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:28 PM
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5. Sanders (I) vermont
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:34 PM
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6. Not hard to answer
I agree wholeheartedly.
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Sir Jeffrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:37 PM
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7. Debs/Sinclair in 2008!
Just reanimate their bodies like they did with Reagan post 1985 :)
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:41 PM
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8. Bernie Sanders
is indeed a Socialist. He is a former Mayor of Burlington, Vermont.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:41 PM
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9. Absolutely! We need a couple in each house
we could use a large dose of idealism.

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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:44 PM
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10. Just one?
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:53 PM
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11. we need more people like shirley chilshom, maxine waters, carrie meeks,
we need a martin luther king...someone with charisma, vibrancy and insight. someone willing to fight and willing to stand on principle.
someone with the energy of a jane fonda when she is political. i always thought that a maxine waters/jane fonda, or jane fonda/maxine waters ticket would be TERRIFIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 08:58 PM
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12. We've already had two Socialist representatives before Sanders
Both were born in Europe and immigrated to America, one to New York, the other to Wisconsin. Victor Berger and Meyer London both served between 1911-1928.

Check out the bios-they'd make a great term paper topic.

http://reds.linefeed.org/bios/london.html

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAberger.htm

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ChildEyedOneMan Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:06 PM
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13. No
All we need are reps that adhere to and follow the constitution. period.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:05 PM
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16. One thing does not exclude the other
Although I'd choose "social democrat" myself. Which most so-called "socialist" parties in the civilized world actually are. So what's your point?
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:34 PM
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19. Actually that's a fallacy....
Socialism does NOT equal Communism. Most socialist are Democratic Socialists, like the Socialist Party, USA. They believe in a democratic government, and our constitution just fine, they just want to emphasize the "Promote the General Welfare" part as well, which is sorely lacking in this country.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:15 PM
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14. I support your call for a socialist voice and question your "one party"
statement.

Thanks.

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Guns Aximbo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-18-05 09:36 PM
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15. one party
It seems to me that the Dems are trying hard to become republicans.

We have some Religious Left thing happening.
We had Kerry showing us how much he like to shoot and own guns
We have a large group of Dems voting for the illegitamate war in Iraq

The list can go on and on. There is only one party representing Americans now and it is the Repugnant Party.
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CAG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 12:39 AM
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24. A religious left thing??
"We have some Religious Left thing happening."

Yeah, so did Martin Luther King, Jimmy Carter, and us millions of christians who are democrats and have been democrats forever. While living our lives striving to be more like Christ, a lot of us have trouble reconciling how this could possibly be construed as being "republican".

Please don't confuse the failings of human beings on the fundamentalist evangelical side as being all of christianity, or certainly consistent with Christ's teachings. Its not Christ's fault so many have used christianity for their own biases, prejudices, and selfishness.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:06 PM
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17. Wha? We still have a house and a senate?
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eg101 Donating Member (371 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:22 PM
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18. Time for some socialism ANYWHERE in American politics
Not that I am saying that America needs to become a socialist country. But politics is a negotiation process between two differing parties. If we do not have a Left, then we do not have a political negotiations process.

When two parties negotiate, then wind up with a compromise somewhere in the middle. But the Democrats have abdicated and have thrown in with the right.

We need a REAL left in America. Socialists would qualify as leftists.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:38 PM
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20. Just opened this for first time, what do you call Bernie Sanders???
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 11:47 PM
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21. What we need is a Socialist Senator...
Now that would be cool.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 12:14 AM
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22. As others said
Bernie Sanders of VT is a socialist.

As for the senate, you're dreaming if you believe a socialist can win any statewide election in this country.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 12:17 AM
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23. First we need to take back the word SOCIALIST
It's a bad word. Democrats, to the right though they be, are called socialists derisively.
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Solon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 12:58 AM
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25. I do find it funny that some of our most revered icons...
were made by Socialists, lets see, the Pledge for one, also the song, "This land is my Land, This land is your land", as well as many Heros of the time, such as Helen Keller, and Upton Sinclair.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:26 AM
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26. Can you offer your definition of socialism?
The word socialism is fraught with diverse historical connotations.

If by socialism you mean regulations of the excesses of the capitalist system, federal negotiations or price caps on prescription drugs, education subsidies, a strong safety net for workers and the poor or anybody struck with misfortune, etc. I'm willing to consider such a candidate.

However, if instead you refer to overwhelming nationalization of industries, invasive bureaucracy imposed upon small businesses, elimination of competitive incentive in the economy, they sure as hell won't get my vote.
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progressiveright Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 01:41 AM
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27. two party system messes up everything
first of all there is economy, social issues, foreign policy. You can be liberal on one and conservative on other, then you have to choose which is more important. Then there is hard right and hard left that don't agree with majority of their party but still mostly vote for them because nothing else can make a difference. Most other countries give minor parties some representation in legislature, I think for us it would make sense to have run-off voting, so that you can vote for a couple of candidates in sequence of importance, so that if your candidate is not in top two it will go to your second or third choice.
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LeftofU Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-20-05 02:32 AM
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28. we need alot of true socialists.....now!
As we always have.
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