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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:08 PM
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I like to present "THE GOLDEN NUTS" award to John F. Kerry.
Congratulations Senator Kerry, you did not cave in. You voted against Condoleeza becoming the Secy of State. Good for you, though I could've done without the waffling in the beginning, you've done the right thing.

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:09 PM
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1. Kinda like the Golden Globes, only better?
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:20 PM
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2. your much kinder then me

but I like the golden nuts concept
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 12:56 PM
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3. why add the Republican talking point about the waffle.
I think we get them enough on the MSM.
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:18 PM
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4. If he is running for 2008, I wan't to make sure that.....
we make him a bit more concrete.
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:21 PM
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5. I eally don't think he will be running in 2008...
he will find out soon enough that he doesn't stand a chance.

btw, I find your screenhandle intriguing. Just one letter away from "dino." :)
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:32 PM
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8. The thing is Kerry is concrete and most importantly honest.
I will take Kerry's seeing both sides of the story to Bush definite wrong stands on an issue and his lies when it comes to social issues.

Seriously it is a talking point. Remember that. It is no more accurate when comparing him to other politicians than to say that he did not really deserve his medals in Vietnam.
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 03:56 PM
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12. My response
Quoting what you said:

"I will take Kerry's seeing both sides of the story to Bush definite wrong stands on an issue and his lies when it comes to social issues."

What I say:

You are preaching to the choir, I am more interested in voters that didn't vote for Kerry. If this "flip-flop" issue is out of the way, or at least better explained then we don't have to put up with this childish argument and we can then focus on the real issues.

Quoting what you said:

"Seriously it is a talking point. Remember that. It is no more accurate when comparing him to other politicians than to say that he did not really deserve his medals in Vietnam."

Again we need to make sure we get new voters. Our tried and true voters already know that. Sorry about the "waffle" remark, but if he is going to make a showing in 2008, he needs to take care of these image problems.
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:24 PM
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6. If he gets the "Golden Nuts" award, what does Boxer get?? n/t
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:31 PM
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7. The "Golden Ovaries" award
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 03:34 PM
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10. LOL -- I was too polite to say it - thanks for doing dirty work n/t
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:45 PM
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9. He gets an award for voting as he should have?
If he would have voted for her he would have looked like an idiot.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 03:47 PM
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11. Would have
looked like an idiot? Like Biden, Dodd, Feingold, Nelson, Obama and Sarbanes?
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 04:26 PM
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13. I posted that before I realized that the confirmation vote is tomorrow.
Sorry John Kerry!
I hold nothing against the Dems who voted to end hearings.

It's not like she was giving good answers--might as well pass it on the full Senate.

And apparently the Dems are filibustering, so....?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 04:40 PM
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16. I hold plenty against the dems who voted...to end hearings??????
No dear, the hearings were over. They voted to clear the criminal.
And Barbara and kerry didn't. Good for them!
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 05:00 PM
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17. But the vote still goes to the Senate.
Edited on Wed Jan-19-05 05:01 PM by tjdee
I guess I'm confused, because I thought they did vote for her....to go on to the next step, which is a full Senate vote. Not to vote for her as in "I think you'll be a great SoS."

If this committee hearing was all she needed, she'd be official right now, right? They can still vote against her when the entire Senate votes, right?

on edit: Yes, I think it is bad that they voted to advance her. But this doesn't raise to the level of ire being generated by some here.


Anyway--why didn't Feingold get this level of irritation when he voted for John Ashcroft?
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 04:34 PM
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14. for something that's just symbolic anyway?
Don't get me wrong. I was glad he did, and surprised as well. But it matters not a hill of beans in the final analysis. But great (safe) symbolism, huh?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 04:38 PM
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15. For once, he didn't pull a Kerry. he was consistent. It counts.
Not to make me swoon and roll over the floor in extasy like some here - but it was a good thing.
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