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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:21 PM
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Exit polls say Bush won fair and square- here is MSNBC article
Edited on Wed Jan-19-05 01:24 PM by cyberpj
which I just heard reported on their news channel.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6840933 /


Overestimates of Sen. John Kerry’s support in presidential exit polls conducted on Election Day do not support allegations of fraud, according to an examination of the $10 million system released Wednesday.

The examination concludes that the exit-polling system worked properly, stressing that in the end, none of its clients — ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox, NBC and The Associated Press — was misled into making an inaccurate projection of the winner of any race. “However, the estimates produced by the exit poll data on November 2nd were not as accurate as we have produced with previous exit polls,” it said.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:22 PM
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1. Bull-fucking-shit!
And that's really all that needs to be said about that.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:22 PM
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2. we know the truth.... and it certainly does not come from MSM
they can lie all day .... their days are numbered
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:24 PM
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3. Uh-huh
:eyes:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:24 PM
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4. Mainstream Media lies once again - links to DU threads below
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1164449

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1164477&mesg_id=1164477&page=

Note that "no systematic differences means Fraud was not in every machine" - not that there was no massive fraud.

Main Stream Media lies once again!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:25 PM
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5. Why, of course they do. Funny how they are released today!
Kerry totals were tilted BECAUSE Kerry received more votes. Period!
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:32 PM
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6. Here is a funny...
Quote from the article..

Most significantly, “it appears that Democrats are just more likely to take the exit polls than Republicans,” Gawiser said. “ Why does that happen? What can we do to reduce that?”

/quote

Ok, how do they know that (?) - unless they polled people to find out what party they belong to. Then if they new Repubs were less likely to take a poll, then would not the pollsters 'weight' that in properly - instead of trying to figure out why now? Also, would not the pollsters they try to get more Repubs to answer the polls?

The sad thing about this is that most Americans will believe their propaganda. Not us - we all have and use this thing called our brain!

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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:32 PM
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7. Wow, previous exit polls were accurate, now they're not!
Hmmmm.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:36 PM
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9. Imagine that... what has historically been the most accurate polls ever
...that being exit polls -are now all of a sudden wildly flawed!

Ukraine?
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:48 PM
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10. But they're still good for showing us "morality" is a top concern!
Funny how that works.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:50 PM
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11. Yes, of course! forgot that tid-bit -eom
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seimmud Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 01:33 PM
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8. What about Olbermann?
What does he have to say about this?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 02:32 PM
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12. MSNBC is as full of shit as CNN and FAUX go tell it to FR
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 02:55 PM
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13. Not weighting the exit poll is NOT AN EXCUSE! The polls are weighted
when they are released. You know what percentage of a precinct is democrat and what percentage is republican, therefore the poll is weighted to account for less of one group participating.

This ISN'T a hard concept, but the MSM is trying to make this a 'non-story'
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 03:09 PM
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14. I don't give a rat's behind

about exit polls. I want the machines checked!

Maybe Soros can buy Diebold, so the Repubs can get a taste
of what we are talking about. They don't quite get it yet.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 03:23 PM
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15. You know, I think maybe the Ukrainian Exit Polls were wrong, too
PUH-LEEZE!

I wouldn't believe this any more than I would believe a Communist study of Brezhnev's "glorious victory" in the 1978 Soviet "elections".
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-19-05 05:26 PM
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16. Now exit polls are accurate? Bullshit!
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