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Fla Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:07 PM
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Listening to press conference while I was driving, and almost drove
into a tree.

These are 2 questions posed by a reporter, Jeff Gannon from Talon Press, a conservative "news" organization. Clearly a set-up for Bush who obviously had a prepared answer for both questions

http://www.talonnews.com/about/


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Q Thank you. Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the U.S. economy. Harry Reid was talking about soup lines, and Hillary Clinton was talking about the economy being on the verge of collapse. Yet, in the same breath, they say that Social Security is rock-solid and there's no crisis there. How are you going to work -- you said you're going to reach out to these people -- how are you going to work with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?

THE PRESIDENT: Continue to speak to the American people. Right after my State of the Union, I think I'm going to four or five states to continue to address this issue. You know, I can remember President Clinton doing the same thing on Social Security. I thought he was very effective in teeing up the issue, of making the case. And I will do the same thing. There is a -- in terms of whether the economy is growing or not, there is a -- the jobs are increasing, the forecast looks strong. Obviously, there are some things we need to do to make sure that America is a good place to continue to risk capital and invest. That's why I'm urging the Congress to pass legal reform.

You might remember, one of the first issues that I addressed after election was legal reform, asbestos reform, class-action reform, medical liability reform. I believe if there is a -- that we've got a chance to get some good, meaningful legislation out of the Congress early, which will send a good signal that we will address those issues that make -- that stand in the way for further economic expansion. We need an energy bill and I look forward to working with members of both parties to get a good energy bill out.

Obviously, people in the capital markets are going to be watching the issue of twin deficits -- on the one hand, the spending deficit, the fiscal deficit. We'll address that in our budget that we're getting ready to submit to Congress. Obviously, we're going to have to work closely together to send the signal that we're willing to tackle some tough issues. The budget I'll be submitting is one that says, we'll spend money on projects that work, but we must make sure we're not wasting the taxpayer's money.

In terms of the trade deficit, it is important for us to make sure that -- in countries that are -- that countries treat their currencies in market fashion. I've been working with China, in specific, on that issue. Secondly, that people knock down their barriers to our goods and services. Thirdly, that we continue to grow our economy at home by making -- by some of the reforms I've just discussed.

But I think most people are optimistic about the economy next year. It's very important that we continue to put pro-growth policies in place.

Q Mr. President, Senator Ted Kennedy recently repeated his characterization of Iraq as a "quagmire" and has called it your Vietnam. And the questioning of Alberto Gonzales and Condi Rice in the Senate has been largely used by Democrats to criticize your entire Iraq program, especially what you're trying to do postwar. I wonder if you have any response to those criticisms. And what kind of an effect do you think these statements have on the morale of our troops and on the confidence of the Iraqi people that what you're trying to do over there is going to succeed?

THE PRESIDENT: I think the Iraqi people are wondering whether or not this nation has the will necessary to stand with them as a democracy evolves. The enemy would like nothing more than the United States to precipitously pull out and withdraw before the Iraqis are prepared to defend themselves. Their objective is to stop the advance of democracy. Freedom scares them. Zarqawi said something interesting the other day, that -- he was talking about democracy and how terrible democracy is. We believe that people ought to be allowed to express themselves, and we believe that people ought to decide the fates of their governments.

And so I -- the notion that somehow we're not making progress I just don't subscribe to. I mean, we're having elections. And I think we need to put this moment in history in proper context. That context, of course, starts with whether or not the world would be better off with Saddam Hussein in power, and whether or not America would be more secure. After all, I've always felt the Iraqi theater is a part of the war on terror.

And I am encouraged and I am heartened by the fact the Iraqi citizens are showing incredible bravery. They're losing a lot of people. Obviously, these targeted assassinations of innocent civilians is -- is having an effect on Iraqi families. But they want to vote. They want to participate in democracy. They want to be able to express themselves. And, to me, that is encouraging. There is a notion in some parts of the world that certain people can't self-govern; certain religions don't have the capacity of self-government. And that condemns people to tyranny. And I refuse to accept that point of view.

I am -- I am optimistic about the advance of freedom, and so should the American people. After all, look what's happened in a brief period of time -- Afghanistan; Palestinian elections, which I think are incredibly hopeful elections; as well as the Ukraine; and now Iraq. It is -- we're witnessing amazing history. And the fundamental question is: Can we advance that history? And that's what my inauguration speech said. It said, yes, we can. I firmly planted the flag of liberty, for all to see that the United States of America hears their concerns and believes in their aspirations. And I am excited by the challenge and am honored to be able to lead our nation in the quest of this noble goal, which is freeing people in the name of peace.

more....

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/01/20050126-3.html


This is clearly propaganda blatantly abetted by a member of the "media". In both cases instead of being objective, the "reporter/journalist" tainted his questions with his own bias.

This administration are such sneaky, lying SOB's. God I get so frustrated.

:grr:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:09 PM
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1. Well, they sure earned their taxpayer funded paycheck
with those questions.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:10 PM
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2. it's no longer a "guess" that people are "paid" by the WH for
playing the disinformation-propaganda role.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:13 PM
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3. I was listening while driving too
and found myself shouting obscenities at the radio. Yes - very clear this guy was a plant and the whole thing planned in advance. With the media taking orders from Bushco, I'm afraid anything * wants to do will be a cakewalk - those who oppose will be called crazy and other extreme terms attacking their character. How do we stop this?
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pdxmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:14 PM
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4. Check out the credentials of this "reporter"
He's got a Bachelor's Degree in Education and is a "graduate" from the Leadership Institute's School of Journalism. Check out the Leadership Institute: http://www.leadershipinstitute.org/01ABOUTUS/aboutus.htm

This guy gets to ask questions and Helen Thomas doesn't??? Why doesn't the media wise up to this crap?
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:30 PM
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7. Roots of the Ultra Left
* Introduction

Section One:
What Socialists Really Think About Economics

* Profit Comes From Evil Greed

* Socialists must get all your property

* Tax all income at 100%

* Support big government. No new tax cuts.

* Only government creates wealth

* Bureaucrats spend your money better than you do

* To elect more socialists, destroy the economy

* Government jobs good; private employers bad

* "Something for nothing" fools almost everyone

* Why work when you can loot those who do?

* Socialism has never been tried

Section Two:
What Socialists Really Think About Your Family And Our American Culture

* Traditional morality is always bad

* Do what feels good now. Make taxpayers pay the bill

* Break all family ties

* Make God illegal

* Masculine is bad; feminine is also bad

* Kill it. Why give your baby to a moral couple?

Section Three:
What Socialists Really Think About Liberty

* Solve all problems. Give the Left all power.

* Stamp out liberty. It's unfair.

* Everything not compulsory must be prohibited

* Re-write history or stop teaching it

* Keep campuses conservative-free zones

* In the media, any conservatives are too many

* No free speech for conservatives

* Only groups have rights

* Give up your guns. We want you defenseless.

* Pay the union boss or we'll crack your skull

* Save the environment. Kill off all the people.

* Destroy all non-government education

* Teachers unions -- more important than teaching kids

* When judges give us what we want, forget the laws and the Constitution

Section Four:
What Socialists Really Think About The Future Of America In The World.

* America causes all world problems

* Eliminate patriotism

* Bring on world government

* Next time, Marxist-Leninists will get it right

http://www.leadershipinstitute.org/04RESOURCES/RootsLeft_000.htm

Where do these people get this shit?
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:50 PM
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9. UH, they're crazy-ass insane with pumpkin guts for brains
I love the "Kill it. Why give the baby to a moral couple?"

I know plenty of Christian "moral couples," who won't adopt a minority child, an older child or a child with a disability -- and are holding out for that "white baby," that they can put in Tommy Hilfiger clothes and show around the cul-de-sac.

Their hypocrisy knows NO bounds.

I mean that shit is insane. If people believe that, then this country is in some deep shit.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:03 PM
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8. I've been reading into these guys...
and it's scary as hell. How do they get away with it? And it's tax exempt too!!!

:mad:

check out my thread about them - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1544517
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:18 PM
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5. It clearly shows his complete lack of understanding about Soc. Security.
Edited on Wed Jan-26-05 02:19 PM by LostInAnomie
SS is in a matter of speaking is made up of trusts and bonds. These are already paid for and the state of the economy would have little effect on their pay out.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-26-05 02:19 PM
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6. I saw that it was amazing. like an SNL or Daily Show spoof!
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