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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:36 AM
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Was This Quote From * In The SOTU a Hint of the "Draft" to be reinstated..
President Bush said: “Now we need to focus on giving young people, especially young men in our cities, better options than apathy, or gangs, or jail.”
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:38 AM
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1. Nope. He was just swinging for the fences for minority voters.
Hoping something would stick.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:38 AM
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2. I happen to have a real affinity for apathy & it shouldn't be lumped with
gangs and jail.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:51 AM
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4. Sloth...
My very favorite of the "deadly" sins! :D

:thumbsup:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:46 AM
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3. Interesting -- I didn't even think of that
I figured it was about demolishing any remnants of Clinton initiatives that they haven't already demolished, and replacing them with something "faith-based." Because you KNOW it's not about new funding -- it's always stripping away $1 and replacing it with a much-trumpeted 10 cents. That's how they do it.

The hilarious part, to me, is Pickles taking charge of this. :eyes: Yeah, she's so in tune with the plight of urban America.

But you're right, military recruitment or some form of the draft may be a part of it.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:55 AM
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5. Remember the case a few months ago?
A young man was given the option of going
to jail or enlisting.
I don't recall the offense, but I sure think it
was a case of "testing the water."
I fully expect to see more cases like it.
Non-violent offenders (drug cases) petty
theft, (shoplifters) and so forth...
BHN
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 12:37 PM
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9. Wow --- that could be
I hadn't thought of that either, but I wouldn't put it past them to institute something like that. :(
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 12:45 PM
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11. Well, the prisons ARE very full...
And the slave labor force for Home Depot is effectively
staffed with prison inmates, so...WHAT to do with
all those unemployed, uneducated, uninsured youngsters
when they get picked up for shoplifting CDs at the
local mall?
Hmmm, if they are offered the chance to reform
in the military or go to jail, either way, they can funnel
more tax payer dollars into privatized services.
Prison uniform or Military, makes no difference.
One is as profitable as the other, but the PNAC
did recently request a way to boost the numbers of troops...
Writing is on the wall.
BHN


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 12:15 PM
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7. I thought of that, too. But he was talking about faith-based programs
Bring them to Jesus.

As opposed to the Army, which is SENDING them to Jesus.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 12:38 PM
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10. Good point
There may be some of both.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 11:58 AM
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6. Laura's going to sugarcoat enlistment.
Have to get into Iran somehow, eh?
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 12:54 PM
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13. That's how I saw it, too, along with the help of Minority Faith-Based
Ministries who are now able to line up to get money.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 12:24 PM
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8. I think they are going to end up
in the military. Why not? Lil Laura will help him get it through. Or if not, I bet that it has something to do with the military.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 12:46 PM
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12. Laura Bush read her script saying almost the same thing a couple of
Edited on Thu Feb-03-05 12:49 PM by Malva Zebrina
weeks ago. She read it well as any good Stepford schill would have. I wonder if, as a reward for being a goodwife, she got to wear her inaugural, Austrian Crystal studded gown about the White House for a few more days before handing it over to the Smithsonian.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/01/19/earlyshow/main667735.shtml

"I'm also interested in what we can do for adolescents, particularly adolescent boys. I think we've not paid that much attention to boys over the last couple of decades, and we raise boys to be totally self-reliant in the United States. And the fact is, boys need to be taught the same life skills that girls are taught, and I think we just need to pay attention to them."


When I saw that , I wondered why she was trotted out to read on script and what was behind it--I for one will never believe she truly wants to help "children at risk"--she is too vacantly Stepfordshire to have an initiative all on her own due to her supreme knowledge of politics and her swell imagination, but was told this is her talking points in preparation, as Bush uses propaganda, for more of the same along the line as time goes on. Well, here we have it--Bush mentions it in his
SOTU.

I don't know what is behind it. Military service will get you straightened out if you are in gangs? It sounds like the Hitler Youth movement is underway.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 12:55 PM
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14. The Draft in Faith-Based Program led by Laura...
Oh yeah, this is where they are going with this.
And your average disenfranchised youth of today
is PERFECT for programming into the army of True Believer
soldiers, no strangers to violence either.
I have worked with that population- they are tragic.
Most of them damaged before five years of age
by the trauma of abuse and neglect of various forms.
The military will provide them with a sense of self
which is why they join gangs anyway- the BFEE wants
to refocus that desire into empire defending and building.
They will call it some silly thing, but it will be the
launching pad to direct them into the army.
BHN
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 12:57 PM
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15. Inner-City Home-Ec
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-05 01:04 PM
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16. Ruh-oh...Hillary just brought up the need for more troops
C-Span right now.
wolfie said yep...that be what we gonna do.
BHN
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