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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:31 PM
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Is *bush trying to eliminate the Food Stamp Program?
I thought I heard something about this. I need more information and facts before I implode.

Does anyone have a link to this issue?

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:35 PM
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1. he's cutting the program down, i think the cuts are pretty large
that pissed me off the most, also cutting child care for the working poor.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:38 PM
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3. In Red States
the working poor are a large part of his base. We are starting to see trickle down economics manifest itself especially in red states. Trickle down = higher state and local taxes. The base must be very proud of themselves.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:40 PM
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4. catsup will once again become a vegetable
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:45 PM
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7. I can see it now....
jails will be filled with women trying to feed their children....and their children going into social service foster homes....if they can find any.

They, the repugs never, ever look at the big picture.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:47 PM
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8. really what they hate is anybody that needs a hand up
it's amazing how anti-choice they are but when those children are born into poverty thats where it ends for the gop, they really hate the poor.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:54 PM
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10. If they lower the draft age to 10 it will solve lots of these problems.
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 12:55 PM by CrispyQGirl
~~sarcasm off


on edit: I love that Maxine cartoon! So true!
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:36 PM
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2. If not immediately, then ultimately
Let's face it: the ultimate goal is to kill off those who do not increase the bottom line of the Bush Family. It's the Republican version of abortion, dontcha know.

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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:53 PM
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16. Oh wow, I'm gonna have to remember that one!
"the Republican version of abortion"! Very good!
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itzamirakul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:42 PM
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5. Yes...
simple answer...
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:45 PM
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6. This is a dumb move for him ! It just causes people to concentrate
on the Wealthy over Poor persona. Can't believe they are stupid enough to pick any program that has an implied "against the poor people" behind it.

I'd love this move, if I didn't hate it so much.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 12:54 PM
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9. "If you starve them, they'll work harder"
typical right wing cant. The problem is that most folks are working harder for less money already, if they can find work, which is disappearing to India and China more every day.

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cmd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:15 PM
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11. It's a move to eliminate obesity, Bush style
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 01:16 PM by cmd
It will be touted at the Healthy Nation program. Bush will say Americans are now 20% thinner thanks to his initiatives. It works kind of like the Heathy Forest program. (sarcasm off)
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:21 PM
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12. Read Krugman here- eliminating more than that:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/11/opinion/11krugman.html?pagewanted=print&position

Krugman writes,

"It may sound shrill to describe President Bush as someone who takes food from the mouths of babes and gives the proceeds to his millionaire friends. Yet his latest budget proposal is top-down class warfare in action. And it offers the Democrats an opportunity, if they're willing to take it.


First, the facts: the budget proposal really does take food from the mouths of babes. One of the proposed spending cuts would make it harder for working families with children to receive food stamps, terminating aid for about 300,000 people. Another would deny child care assistance to about 300,000 children, again in low-income working families.


And the budget really does shower largesse on millionaires even as it punishes the needy. For example, the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities informs us that even as the administration demands spending cuts, it will proceed with the phaseout of two little-known tax provisions - originally put in place under the first President George Bush - that limit deductions and exemptions for high-income households.


More than half of the benefits from this backdoor tax cut would go to people with incomes of more than a million dollars; 97 percent would go to people with incomes exceeding $200,000.
It so happens that the number of taxpayers with more than $1 million in annual income is about the same as the number of people who would have their food stamps cut off under the Bush proposal. But it costs a lot more to give a millionaire a break than to put food on a low-income family's table: eliminating limits on deductions and exemptions would give taxpayers with incomes over $1 million an average tax cut of more than $19,000.


It's like that all the way through. On one side, the budget calls for program cuts that are small change compared with the budget deficit, yet will harm hundreds of thousands of the most vulnerable Americans. On the other side, it calls for making tax cuts for the wealthy permanent, and for new tax breaks for the affluent in the form of tax-sheltered accounts and more liberal rules for deductions.


The question is whether the relentless mean-spiritedness of this budget finally awakens the public to the true cost of Mr. Bush's tax policy.

MUCH MORE - READ IT
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 02:04 PM
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17. $19,000 in tax cuts for the GREED PIGGIES!
Financed by taking food from the mouths of babes! These millionaire GREED PIGS sure have GREAT AMERICAN VALUES! :eyes:
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 02:19 PM
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18. Thank you for the link....
Now I can IMPLODE! May I say the word FUCK now? :nuke:
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ebayfool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 02:47 PM
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19. Yes, you may ... this looks to be an appropriate occasion! n/t
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 04:55 PM
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20. Thank you .....
and I did say it....REPEATEDLY.:wtf:
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vpigrad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:30 PM
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13. He doesn't want to eliminate the program...
he wants to eliminate the recipients. There's a big difference like the different between not liking Jews and putting them in gas chambers.
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SoCalifer Donating Member (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:30 PM
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14. Yes He Has Food Stamps On The Cut-Back List
Edited on Sat Feb-12-05 01:33 PM by SoCalifer


And what do you all think about this: He was asked why his proposed cuts included these types of programs. And do you remember what his pathetic answer was? While shrugging his shoulders, his answer was: "Well, if a program is not effective"

That scene pissed me off just as much as the fact that he's proposing these cuts in the first place. That right there just speaks volumes of this man's cruel fascist mentality. What else would you call someone who cuts food out of the mouths of people of are struggling, and then gives the pathetic excuse he gave.

And to make matters more infuriating; you know where that money is going to go to. Its going to go right into the pockets of the greedy rich corporate scum who have seized our country's government and media and therefore set our foreign and domestic policies, instead of "We The People."
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HootieMcBoob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-05 01:35 PM
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15. Of course he is
The Republican Party wants to reduce government down to the point where "they can drown it in the bathtub". What this means is completely eliminating the social safety net which includes food stamps as well as social security and everything else. Where they can't eliminate them they'll neuter them for the time being by taking all of the money from the programs and directing it toward big corporations like the insurance industry, the pharmaceutical industry, wall street financial firms, etc. Money will no longer go to help ordinary Americans, it will go to empower the already powerful.
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