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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:03 PM
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So does anyone still think racism played no part in the Nichols coverage?
All you have to do is compare THAT unending, 24-hour coverage to the non-coverage of a white male fundie who murders twice as many people.

Have they even posted the white guy's picture yet?
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:07 PM
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1. Yes they have
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 08:07 PM by rpannier
All over the internet. I live in Korea and have seen that F**ks face on every interenet news site from MSN to The Times London.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:08 PM
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3. I was referring to the corporate media
in this country, who were so eager to spend time on the Nichols case.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:42 PM
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8. Maybe, you seek justification rather than understanding.
:shrug:

The profit-driven media is not necessarily a "discrimination".

They "target" that poor woman in Florida who died long ago, the Peterson case, the Jackson case,...whatever "obsession" of the day.

What I am saying is this: I am a pale-skinned, struggling, single mom who is a member of one race,...the human race,...

And what I see happening has nothing to do with the color of my skin or my spirituality or my walk in life,...

,...IT HAS TO DO WITH AN OBSESSION WITH MONEY.

And I am damned tired of anyone who suggests that anything happening in our world, our lives,...has anything to do with our uniquenesses beyond THE MONEY and THE POWER!!!
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starwolf Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:08 PM
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2. The press always goes nuts when a judge goes down
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 08:09 PM by starwolf
Judges are by and large brahmins as are the senior members/owners of the press, and national politicians. They get really upset when one of their own gets killed by a commoner. Besides, it has not happened in a while.

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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:34 AM
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14. well the guy that killed the judges family didn't get that kind of
coverage.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:10 PM
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4. He didn't kill a judge a cop and a court reporter, etc.
Edited on Sun Mar-13-05 08:10 PM by Padraig18
Sorry, but it's a better story, in a sad way...
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mandyky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:22 PM
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5. Aw Jeez, in this case I say wrong
Nichols was still at large, car jacking vehicles and pistol whipping victims. This guy killed himself after he was through shooting up his church buddies. Nichols was an alleged rapist, this guy suffering from depression.

I do not watch news on the weekends. Did they not cover the shooting in WI at all? Obviously, some media is covering it.

I hate when CNN and the others go on a all one news item all the time, but they do it. But racist? I don't think so in this case.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 12:25 AM
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11. I agree with your viewpoint, on this particular matter n/t
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:31 PM
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6. No. At this point, I'd call it an OCD'd media that cuts across us all.
We are witnessing an "obsessive-compulsive disordered" media that is driven by profiteering, fears total destruction, has lost all sense of reality or objectivity or healty anchoring.

This OCD'd media,...is sick,...and has no capacity to discriminate, at all.

This OCD'd media,...should be treated as it is,...as sick, period.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 08:40 PM
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7. Of course it did. The disproportion was shameful.
Also started my day horribly. We were out of town and I woke up at 5:00 am and couldn't get back to sleep. So I went down to the lobby to read a paper or watch television (didn't want to do it in the room because I'd wake up the kids) and the lobby was fine until this stringy haired blonde guy came by and tried to make all kinds of grunting noises to signal that he wanted a chance at the remote. I figured I'd wait until he actually acknowledged me in English before conceding.

When the movie I was watching ended, he said he wanted to see news so he can check on the Buddy Dyer arrest. That's what he called it, an arrest. I told him that I didn't mind if Buddy Dyer were pulled out of office as long as they did it for everyone who did the same, and that includes Mel Martinez. So he proceeds into the right-wing talking points, "Oh, I dont think they ever acknowledged that Mel took money." To which I said, "I think that's why they guy collected ballots for people." I said, "I don't mind if you clean house on the Democratic side, as long as you do the same to the Republican side for committing the same offenses." And then the Georgia murders flashes on the television, and he says, "I can't believe they caught him already." And, anticipating the regular right-wing hatefest, I said, I do. The guy committed a crime that doesn't sound like he planned real well. It was spontaneous, so I can't imagine that he would have made a clean exit. Not like the guy who waited in the basement of the house of the other judge.

From there he jumped into Social Security and insisted that Bush was right because it was in crisis. I said that it wasn't in crisis and that the U.S.'s own accounting agency, the GAO, claimed it was. He said, uhuh, it was in crisis. And that's when the early morning tired, but not sleepy feeling took over and I said, "Bush is doing the same thing he did with Social Security that he did with Iraq. I can't stand to be around right-wingers. If you want to believe in a lie, then believe in the lie, but don't take this country to war over one." And I walked out and went back to bed and tried to start my day over three hours later.
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2diagnosis Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 12:00 AM
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10. What shoes did you wear for lunch? nt
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:18 AM
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12. The do-over worked its magic.
Besides, since we were traveling, I only packed two pair of shoes and one of the pairs were still in the car. So I walked out with the right shoes, but I wore my underwear over my clothes!
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-13-05 09:46 PM
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9. It happened near the CNN building
so they got pictures fast and were right on the spot. Anyway that's what I figured. CNN took it a little more personal.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:32 AM
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13. The white guy blew his brains out on the spot . . . end of story.
The black guy killed a judge, a court reporter, a deputy, a customs officer, injured another deputy, injured a press reporter, hijacked cars and kidnapped a woman, not to mention being on the loose for 24 hours. On a slower news day the wall-to-wall coverage would have been on the fundie, nutball, white guy.
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SouthernDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:47 AM
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15. I agree.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:23 AM
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18. agreed. one was at large, and still a threat...
and therefore an issue of public safety. It HAD to be covered differently.

That being said, though, I also think the white fundie killer was undercovered...but meh, whatcha gonna do?

I also don't want to hear about Michael Jackson or Martha Stewart, but the circus is there anyways.
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DU_ONE Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:50 AM
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16. Maybe it was race . . .
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 08:54 AM by DU_ONE
But even if it was not race, the coverage was ridiculously too much. They made every excuse to say something about this case. The other guy who kill the 8 people in the church hardly got any coverage. And the excuse that it was in Atlanta where CNN is does not account for FOX, unless FOX is in Atlanta. And the other excuse that the guy that killed the 8 people in Church is dead is a bad excuses also because it is a unknown, mystery as to what set this guy off, what was his motive. The media should be all over the Church killing, trying to find the motive.

I am not a person who cries "race" at the drop of a hat but the coverage on this case made me wonder and consider if race was indeed a factor.

I also started a thread on this in GD and there were 2 other people in additional to yourself who started a thread on this, for a total of 4 threads on this in GD, so the question is right on point.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:59 AM
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17. I do not think there was any racism involved.
This maniac killed a judge, court reporter, deputy and possibly customs agent and was on the loose in the city. So everyone, including me because I live in the Atlanta area, was in a panic and wondering where he was going to turn up next. And I was glad it was getting a lot of coverage.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:36 AM
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19. I think racism had nothing to do with it.
His escape from the courthouse (and the fact that he was still alive with a manhunt) was the reason why this was a more interesting case than the Wisconsin story.

Putting race into this story is pathetic.
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