Bumpersticker in NC: Voted Bush and Now I Get No Overtime Pay

[blm]

I almost went into shock when I saw it.

[ProgressiveConn]

1. I'd be happy to tell the owner that he got what he deserved. nt

[DemDogs]

25. Take a convert

Where you can get him. And that bumper sticker riding around North Carollina is not a bad thing at all.

[ProgressiveConn]

29. Those who were duped by Bush

are the same people who will be duped by the next social conservative Republican candidate. That bumpersticker doesn't show me he is a convert to either the Democratic party or to progressive-populist values. It just shows me that he only cares about something when it happens to him. If he cared about others he wouldn't have voted for Bush in the first place. He got exactly what he deserved and I don't shed a single tear for him.

Bush's economic policies are going to hurt people, they are a disaster. I am just glad that they will disproportionately hurt red states over blue ones and in individual cases like the one here I am glad that he lost his overtime. Hell if I had my way every single person who voted for Bush would lose more than their overtime. =)

[meow2u3]

30. You can't expect someone of average intelligence....

...to see through an endless barrage of elaborate lies and crapoganda without first being personally and adversely affected by the actions of deceptive adminstrations like Bush's, which invariably run counter to their words. Bush and company are a gang of con artists, to say the least, and to chide the people for being duped by a sophisticated con job is to stoop to the level of the criminals. In other words, you're blaming the victims for being ripped off instead of the criminals for scamming them.

Many Americans and most Bush supporters aren't as quick to see through Bushco's elaborate scams as we on DU are, but just give them time, they eventually open their eyes and realize they've had the wool pulled over their eyes for decades. It just takes betrayal that hits home; it they or their families have been shafted, then they'll turn on Bush. I see it happening already; more of Bush's former supporters are getting tired of being punished for no good reason. This is only the beginning of the end of the neocon/neoliberal wing of the Greedy Oppressive Psychopaths.

[ProgressiveConn]

32. Thats the thing though.

If we were talking about say the war in Iraq your argument that he was duped would hold a lot more weight. But to say that it was somehow a surprise that a Republican changed the rules to make it easier for capital to deny labor benefits such as overtime is pretty silly. The Republican party has always been the party of capital and will always be the party of capital.

This man knew he wasn't doing labor any favors by voting for a Republican regardless of who the candidate was. He was just willing ignore that fact for whatever reason.

No one thought in 2000 that George W Bush was going to help labor. The guy in question in this thread knew that just like everyone else in the country did.

[DemDogs]

56. Actually this bumpersticker says he won't be duped again

That's the point. He finally made the connection between the presidency and the policies. Next time instead of just looking at the guy, he'll look at the policies.

[QC]

52. Yeah, it's better to gloat than to win over someone. n/t

[BlueEyedSon]

2. Stupid ass should have known that Bush works for the corporations

and the moneyed class.

[GetTheRightVote]

3. At least honest enough to put the sticker on his vehicle

:kick:

[ebayfool]

37. A very promising point! n/t

[bluestateguy]

4. Good. He got what he deserved

And I hope his kid gets drafted.

[HughBeaumont]

5. "Thank you sir, may I have another?!?"

"Thank GOD my kid's an honor student, because I'm mighty shit-all stupid!"

"Voted Bush Twice. Don't sit down much."

[Ilsa]

6. I'd bet my last buck that if the election were held again today

they would vote the same damn way! How many times does Bush and Cheney have to kick them in the ass before they realize it isn't the Dems making their life so hard?

[TayTay]

7. Geez, do you think we might have a pickup

We might be able to actually get a vote here.

Unless, of course, we insult the guy by telling him he's stupid. Hey, who needs more voters anyway. I'd rather just rant about Red State voters and how awful they are. If we talk to the guy, explain what we stand for, he might actually vote for us and then what would we have to bitch about.

[QC]

53. Good point! n/t

[Vickers]

8. The sad part? He'll get scared of queers getting married and do it again

Some people never learn.

FTR, I hope I'm completely and totally wrong, but until folks can see the difference between societal bogey men and legitimate societal concerns, they do truly get what they deserve.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

10. He'll vote for Bush again when they bring out the "gays".

:eyes:

I hope he gets to live in a box. He'd deserve it.

[leesa]

33. Or the abortion trick...they fall for it every time!

[gratuitous]

9. Sounds like someone whose eyes have been opened

Rather than attacking this person, it might be useful to find out what he was thinking when he voted for Bush. What made him think that Bush had his best interests at heart? What did he see, hear or read that made Bush look good?

Knowing what appealed to a former Bush voter, we might just be able to counter some of the bullshit currently peddled to the middle and working class as something that's attractive to them.

[salin]

16. Agreed

s/he would be particularly interesting, as it would take some nerve/guts to put that on the car in bush country. Thus, the eye opening had to have been some very strong eye opening - not the kind that timidly goes back into the voting booth and repeats the mistake.

[blm]

22. I'll bet he didn't know about overtime till they stopped paying it in Jan.

AFTER the election.

[uppityperson]

11. Pre-election heard this from several sm business owners

They "don't particularily like what bush is doing, but we're a small business so are voting for the party that helps small businesses." I explained and gave proof and articles and websites but still they believed this. People are stupid, advertising works and we are gucked. (mispelled to not get in trouble with the profanity patrol, though it also works in regards to JimmyJeff)

[area51]

40. "voting for the party that helps small businesses"

Jeebus, they'll never figure out that a big way that small businesses could be helped is to switch to single-payer healthcare; it's a reason small businesses can't attract employees b/c they can't afford to offer our crap-ass health "insurance".

[uppityperson]

51. Their health insr skyrocketed and they don't understand--repus lie

"but they said they were for business, we don't understand". Hey, if I tell you the sky is green, will you believe me? I got a bridge to sell you too and give me all your money to help me get mine out of Nigeria

[France needs us]

12. I don't understand this: where are the people that lost overtime on TV

I don't see any. Wouldn't they be all over the TV on CNN, etc.

All I know about this is our sales people get paid hourly in addition to commission. They all thought they would lose overtime for more than 40 hours and they did not.

[ScreamingMeemie]

13. You wanna come talk to my husband?

I didn't think so. I think you should research beyond your sales people. ;)

[w4rma]

14. What does France need us to do? (nt)

[bluestateguy]

17. I saw several on local TV here in Austin

Texas is a paradise for cheap labor conservatives.

[blm]

19. HAHAH. My spouse works in a newsroom and HIS OVERTIME PAY WAS NIXED

since last January.

Surely you realize by now that the MEDIA has alot of employees at 30-60,000 a year and so they will save a bundle not paying overtime.

THAT is why the media doesn't talk about it. Even a moron would realize that by now.

[gratuitous]

21. They're on right after . . .

Oh, you'll see lots and lots of people who've lost overtime benefits on TV. They're on right after the jes' plain folks who oppose Bush's social security private accounts proposal. But first, we're going to hear from a whole slew of people who have been against the invasion of Iraq from the get-go, to detail for us what's going wrong in Iraq now, and to remind us all again that they were saying these things since before the invasion was launched, but their concerns were dismissed by the Bushistas as being out of touch, or the product of focus groups, or because they were traitors who didn't support the idea of the troops getting slaughtered day after day for no good reason.

You know -- never.

[blm]

23. And after a report on Kerry's healthcare plan. But, first, the Swiftvets

have more to share..........

[blm]

26. Hey France, aren't you going to reply to these answers?

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[katinmn]

48. look at the profile

disrupter

it's like a secret handshake!

[DorianGreene]

15. We have a similar one in MS (maybe elsewhere)

I voted for bush and all I got was this lousy bumper sticker...

...and an enourmous national debt.

[DinahMoeHum]

18. Sorry, but it serves him right for voting Republikan.

He can't say he wasn't warned.

:nopity:

[blm]

20. Actually, the casual news watcher WASN'T warned. The news media saves

alot of money by not paying overtime, too.

[ProgressiveConn]

38. Not an excuse.

Ask the most ignorant person about American politics and they will be able to tell you that rich people vote Republican and poor people vote Democratic traditionally. Most won't know FDR from John Adams or our electoral system from a vote for prom queen. Yet nearly everyone of voting age can tell you that rich folk vote Republican and working folk vote Democratic.

It is the only constant in the GOP. Of the three branches (Social Conservatives/Religious Right, Neo-Con Hawks, and the Corporatist) only the latter is universal. Come up to Connecticut and you'll find our Republican governor now advocating same sex unions. Head down south and you'll find isolationist anti-war conservatives the likes of Bat Buchanan. But even when a Republican has the support of some organized labor groups they will always be less willing to work for the goals of labor than Democrats...

The post new deal Democratic party is built around economic populism. While the DLC era has hurt that a great deal you can see how much it still scares the republicans. Look at the effort that Karl Rove goes through to try to shift the uneducated poor's hostility from their corporate elite profiting off them being underpaid to the educated elite who strive to bring those workers better treatment and a larger share of the profits. Rove is attacking the very nature of what it means to be a Democrat. Economic populism is well... popular while Voodoo economics is despised. People know they deserve a fair shot and that corporate interests don't care about them at all and the hatred of capital's suggested superiority builds. So he is out there trying to shift that from an economic based hatred to education based hatred.

[blm]

41. No, but just pointing out the media's DELIBERATE refusal to air this issue

as well as every other working class issue.

The media only pumped up gay marriage, abortion and terror, all targeted to manipulate the working class into voing against itself, yet again. Many churches did the same.

[demwing]

24. Good for him/her! I applaud every person who wakes up from the nightmare!

I don't understand the hate. "Serves them right?" Maybe, but when one of them wakes up then its time for all of us to drop the divisiveness and start educating the hell out of them!

These people might be powerful allies. They are known within their circles as "one of the gang." They will be listened to by their peers.

Why waste an opportunity by expending time and energy harassing them?

[MADem]

49. I agree with you, wholeheartedly

No one deserves to get screwed, not even the stupid. It's just not our way. We are the party of true compassion, we like things like a living wage, health care, education, care of the sick and elderly, justice for ALL, not just the bright, informed and clever....you know, the real "WWJD?" stuff, not the fake stuff that deals with smacking down people who are different and keeping people in their place.

Embrace the converts, show them some LOVE. When they see the depth of the error of their ways, they are worth a THOUSAND of us, each one of them. They have friends, they have family, they have clout within their own sphere.

Denigrating them only etches deeper the bright line that separates these misguided unfortunates from us. Embracing them, empathizing, sympathizing, and displaying righteous anger over their misfortune earns us a valuable foot soldier in the war of ideas. It's how we can WIN, even if they try tweaking the vote....

[Pool Hall Ace]

27. Wow! At least this person has seen the light

and has the guts to ride around Boosh country with that sticker.

I didn't vote for Bush, and I lost my overtime pay back in 2003. :cry:

[deadparrot]

28. I might feel sorry for him. Depends on which election

he voted for *. 2000, I could probably understand. 2004? He gets what he deserved.

[bvar22]

31. Anyone consider that this may be a Dem activist....

...flying false colors? Cheap trick, but more effective than a Kerry/Edwards sticker today.

[knight_of_the_star]

35. Not a bad idea

Pirates used the same trick on the Spanish Main in the 1600s.

[Bridget Burke]

39. Too many here are too eager to kick him while he's down.

Rather than welcome him to the fold.

The thought that a Southerner driving a pickup truck might actually be a smart Democrat is too much of a strain for their little minds.

[blm]

42. I agree....I think it would be a great idea.

.

[bvar22]

46. A stealth campaign.

First, remove all liberal bumper stickers
or Buy an SUV.
Put on stickers that say:

I voted for Bush and then my father was killed in Iraq.

When I voted for Bush gas was $1.75,

I voted for Bush and now I'm ugly and my mother hates me!

I voted for Bush and now my job lives in India

I voted for Bush, and now gas prices have outrun my taxcut!

[blm]

50. Those are pretty good. It will be interesting to see if they start popping

up.....heheh.

[leesa]

34. Wait'll he got no job and no social security

[Cha]

36. What the hell were they thinking?

Sorry they were so gullible not to see the damn writing on the wall.."sorry" and pissed!

[GOPBasher]

43. It's good that bumper sticker is riding around NC.

Repentant Bush voters. I'm glad others will see it.

[OTownGuy]

44. Guest on DS

Man who was a guest on THE DAILY SHOW last week put it BEST. The country voted for "gay married terrorists". So we DO deserved to get fucked up the ass and get an STD. But hopeflly just Reds.

[GOPBasher]

45. LOL

Hey, welcome to DU, OTownGuy! :hi:

[katinmn]

47. Take home pay will always trump abortion and gay rights

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[blm]

55. Our household lost ours at the beginning of January.....

not to mention the DOUBLING of our healthcare premiums at the same time.

By the end of this year, W will have cost us at least 12,000 bucks just in lost income and added health premiums.

Wait till we add the increases in gas and food prices. Sheesh.