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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 04:21 PM
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Anyone else feel grossly disappointed when this happens....
Edited on Thu May-05-05 04:24 PM by TwoSparkles
You see a post in "Latest Breaking News". The title of the news story indicates that--this time--Junior has been found out. Finally! A story written exposing BushCo's lies and evil practices.

At last, you hope, the MSM has awoken!

You click on the post. You find a few paragraphs of amazing story. However, you also find that the story is from "ButterflyGirlPoliticalBlog.com"--which pretty much means that the story is a non story.

I'm not ripping on blogs. God knows many bloggers work tirelessly to reveal the truth. The problem isn't with the bloggers who work hard to write these articles--it's with the MSM who should be ON THESE STORIES!

I'm tired of that sinking, exasperating feeling when I read one of these juicy headlines--and then click to find the story on some obscure blog--knowing that the contents of said story will never see the light of day.

I hate being constantly reminded that the MSM members are not doing their jobs.

Anyone else ever feel this way, or am I being a big grump?
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impeachthescoundrel Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 04:23 PM
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1. If you're a big grump
Then so am I.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 04:26 PM
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2. Also a grump. n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:37 AM
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17. You have another company member
I'm a grump too. I wish just once they'd do a REAL STORY!
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 04:28 PM
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3. I try to think about how the MSM is becoming less relevant
And the blogs are taking over. That's why they're scared of them and try to trivialize them at every turn. Blogs are exposing the mainstream news for the lazy whores that they are.

But you're right, it is exasperating. :evilfrown:
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 04:29 PM
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4. MSM not CCP Corporate Controlled Propagandists YES nt
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 04:31 PM
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5. Yup, it doesn't help to call the Corporate Media "mainstream"...
NGU.


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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 04:33 PM
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6. May I join that club?
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 04:43 PM
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8. I'm in too
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 04:43 PM
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7. All I can say is the bloggers better be on the look out for the CIA.
They own the media.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 05:20 AM
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20. Actually they should be more careful for these guys

Firm Opens New Blogistan Embassy
Source: Issue Dynamics, Inc. press release, April 26, 2005

Following similar interest from media moguls and PR firms, the consulting firm Issue Dynamics, Inc. "has launched a formal Blogger Relations Practice and a companion website, http:// www.bloggerrelations.com." According to its press release, IDI has already provided "blogger relations" services to "Fortune 50 corporations, national trade associations, advocacy groups and political party committees." Journalist and blogger Dan Gillmor noted that, "as eWeek reported in February, a subsidiary of the firm issued a report denouncing municipal wireless installations without making clear that big telecom firms, which vehemently oppose municipal wireless systems, are among the firm's chief funders. ... Readers need to know who's behind the opinions, so they can make better judgments about what - and whom - they can trust."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Issue_Dynamics%2C_Inc.


They raised their ugly heads with that Yahoo story "debunking" the power of the MSM - a report issued by the same MSM. But this part of their operation which is just starting is even more interesting. The idea is not only to monitor blogs, but also to protect brands

This is a part of the MSM / Corporations to influence the blogs.

Remember the CNN posts which suddenly appeared on many blogs similatenously to 'protect' their name:
Is CNN Messing With Blogs?

A very weird story says that CNN is using guerilla marketing to boost its search engine rankings and destroy negative publicity by placing posts on various blogs.

It started with Nick Lewis at smartcampaigns Lewis said that so far, he's found 13 separate instances of the spam within the comments of his posts that said negative things about CNN.
He also claims that CNN is posting press releases to comments sections on other blogs with negative posts about them.

He says he set up bait posts on his blog to see if they would be spammed by CNN and he claims they were.

Given that blog posts show up very fast and with high rankings in search engines, reputation management requires some guerilla tactics. It is hard to imagine though, that CNN would bother in the instances cited. Is this man nuts? Time will tell.

http://www.whatsnextblog.com/archives/2005/04/is_cnn_messing.asp
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Hidden Stillness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 08:45 PM
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9. Generation After Generation...
During the 1930s and 1940s, a group of radical activists concerned about their country and about the corporate media's censorship of non-"conservative," Democratic/populist, non-corporate political opinions of the day--great people such as Upton Sinclair and that wonderful troublemaker, the folkie Pete Seeger--organized and paid for a travelling program that would go to little rural towns (this is what most of America was back then) and show the townspeople films, newsreels, of the way things really were in the country. They were like the newsreels shown along with movies in theaters then, but telling the truth, and since the monolithic corporate media of its day had them totally censored, they played these films as a kind of show for audiences, for free, out of the back of Pete Seeger's pickup truck, going all over the country as they could afford it, so the people would be educated with real news.

Now, generations later, and things have "changed" "so much," and now we have the internet which "breaks down barriers" and "everybody is a capitalist now," and blah blah blah. Now things are so different, so "free" and unregulated--that now it is the electronic version of the monopolizing capitalist censor/manipulator/propagandist conglomerate controlling most of the world's flow of information on the one hand, and us, showing newsreel movies out of the back of the pickup truck for each small crowd at a time, all over again, endlessly.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 01:50 AM
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19. The Digital Pickup Show!
That could be so cool!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 08:46 PM
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10. My name is apropros on this one. And it was what I was thinking
just now as I saw this thread. The media is solidly afraid to go after anything remotely negative, the sheep are still baahing. I swear the man could have sex on the steps of the WH and they would still be blind. :hi:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:00 PM
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11. Grumpy ex-reporter here!
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:11 AM
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15. How true! If only K.O. would "move past" the Bride story.
Frankly, I expected more from him. It's getting kind of old.
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:25 PM
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12. I had that thought but....
When you think about it, the MSM blows. Blogs and websites are where the real news is found. If DU were to restrict LBN to only MSM outlets, it would de-legitimize the blogs. (de-legitimize: hmmm...is that a word?)

I always hope the MSM media will pick up these stories and some of the less curious out there might learn something, but I'm thankful for the blogs. If not for them, we'd be a ignorant as most the rest of the public.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 09:46 PM
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13. Okay, all of you have given me an idea.
If it will eventually be as we seem to think, and bloggers and the internet that we participate in now will be policed and regulated, I propose that we all need to learn to be hackers. Really.
Look, in a few years it will be nothing to own a computer as big as your hand that can plug in anywhere (or not) and pull info right out of the air (wireless, and have you seen the technology on the new hand-held playstations? ). All we will need is the knowledge of how to get in the back door when the front one has the feds all over it. They can't stop that.....

("HACK THE PLANET"!)
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borlis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-05 11:53 PM
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14. You aren't a big grump. I feel the same way.
I have been so psyched up, so many times during the past few years that finally, bushco will be exposed and brought down, it's SICKENING!!! I have been let down so many times when NOTHING HAPPENS. I had a glimmer of hope with gannon/guckert and that pretty much died. I have been saying for a long time now that BUSH IS UNTOUCHABLE! Now I just always say "I'll believe it when I see it." It's really depressing that they get away with so much. Bill Clinton couldn't fart without being investigated. :mad:
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:36 AM
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16. I thought ButterflyGirlPoliticalBlog.com links weren't
allowed in LBN?

:shrug:
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cquik18 Donating Member (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 12:48 AM
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18. Quit calling 'em Mainstream Media...
...and call them what they REALLY are-the AMERICAN PRAVDA! Pravda and Tass in the old Soviet Union had NOTHING on today's media-at least they were up front about their intentions! Ours offers up fluff piece after fluff piece with teasers about celebrities, "how safe is _____; the results will surprise you!", and what's the number one movie at the box office this week! You want REAL news, go to PBS (while you still can), BBC, CNN Europe (for those visiting Europe, you'd do yourselves a GREAT service to spend a few minutes watching, and then compare it to the crap on CNN here), the various blogs, Air America, and, of course, DU!

And no, you're NOT being a grump, bro! Keep the faith!:toast:
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-05 06:52 AM
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21. Yep. eom.
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