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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:38 PM
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Did Hillary Clinton publicly disagree with/ criticize Howard Dean?
Edited on Tue May-24-05 10:38 PM by Truth Hurts A Lot
I need to know. Bill O'Reilly just made reference to it. If true, it will definitely affect my support of her in the future. All Dean is doing is speaking the truth. I'm tired of RWingers like O'Reilly telling Dems what is inappropriate rhetoric yet they are allowed to say any damn thing they please.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:41 PM
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1. I haven't heard about that...
did you go to O'Lielly's website and see if there is a link?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:42 PM
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2. So, Hillary can't have a mind of her own? She can't disagree with
Edited on Tue May-24-05 10:43 PM by xultar
Dean. She must agree with anything and everything he says or you'll drop your support for her?

Why the flimzy excuse to do something it seems that's already a done deal?

OK

So all DEMS must agree with everything Dean says or they are all dismissed.

Sounds like the Rethuglican Lock step to me. Isn't that how the brown-shirts danced?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:56 PM
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4. It's not really about Dean
It's about caving in to RW rhetoric OVER And OVER again. It doesn't matter who she criticized--the point is, she is criticizing a fellow Democrat to win favor with the RW.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:03 PM
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5. OMFG, If it quacks its a duck. GMAB. If I criticize Dean am I trying
to gain favor with the RW>

Come on...if you're a Hillary hater be a Hillary hater. No biggie. There are plenty here in other Dem forums and over in Freeperville. That's the one thing Dems and the wingnuts have in common they all hate Hillary!
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:08 PM
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6. Do a search on my name
I've supported Hillary for president. So you'll have to try again on the "Hillary hater" label. Furthermore, you misunderstood, again. This is not about Dean specifically. It's about one Dem turning on another in public to gain RW favor. It happens far too often in our party (i.e., the way Dems turned on Cynthia McKinney, Al Sharpton, etc.)
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:11 PM
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7. Then, I apologize, but I don't get it. You want her to be lockstep with
Edited on Tue May-24-05 11:24 PM by xultar
Dean. Did you loook up what it was the he said she said?

You know how they blow shit out of proportion.

So to drop your support of Hillary based on what you hear a wingnut say she said is a little far out don't cha think?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:31 PM
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9. does dean get to get on a platform and publicly criticize
hillary then. is this what you are suggesting, that it is a ok for all the dems to "honestly" find a camera and criticize each other. because i just dont think that is how we are going to be a winning party

i am not in this fight. i support both hillary and dean. i want to be a strong and united party and stand in solidarity.

i do ask though, would you have an issue if dean were to criticize hillary.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:38 PM
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10. Sure he can be critical of Hillary and he should if he thinks that he
needs to to get the party on track.

First of all who knows how out of context Hillary's comments were taken.

I have no problems with Dean being critical of the folks we have in office and they him.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:46 PM
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13. it does all depend if something was actually, lol, said
who would believe oreilly. and it also depends how hillary said it and what she was saying.

i dont think we should be trying to take dean down and in the past her group of democrats have felt like that has been their agenda. i dont respect that. i value what dean has to offer, and i dont like a part of the party deciding what we the people want in our party. enough people like respect and admire the man

but, as you say, it all depends if, what and how all was said

and no, i wouldnt like to see dean take down our democrats representing us either. disagreeing is one thing and can be done respectfully and diplomatically, i expect that from the democrats
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:39 PM
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11. Finally SOMEONE says it!
Edited on Tue May-24-05 11:41 PM by Placebo
If you're not a Dean Democrat™, you're NO DEMOCRAT AT ALL!

Apparently...

:eyes:

Ugh, it's reasoning like that which most of us find so abhorrent about the Republican Party.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 10:51 PM
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3. You're doing to Hillary exactly what you accuse O'Reilly of doing to Dems

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:25 PM
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8. They don't refer to it as the "Oh Really Factor" for nothing
I'm sure he distorted the hell out of whatever it was. Anyway, I went a-googlin' and couldn't find a damn thing. Maybe you will have better luck. Try Media Matters or the Daily Howler.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 11:41 PM
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12. Old Repug Trick: Divide and Conquer
Besides, who gives a shit what Bill O'Reilly thinks...

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gardenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:03 AM
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14. Bingo! This is total psyops. Intended to foment division in the
Democratic party, and a distraction from the obvious fissure that is now developing in the Republican party.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:28 AM
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15. Yeah, Hillary said it should have been Yehhaawww, not Yeahhhh!
I guess. Who cares? Bill the Molestor has his own party to worry about, the day I let him form my opinion of my own party is the day I die.
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LuPeRcALiO Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 12:43 AM
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16. seems really, really unlikely
Hillary is not exactly famous for saying what she thinks. The day she goes off message will be the day the earth stops spinning.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 05:51 AM
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17. This is Bill O'Reilly, folks.
Not an unbiased source.

Unless there's something verified by more reliable sources this is just gossip designed to divide the Democrats.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 06:38 AM
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18. Consider the source
O'Lie-ly would love nothing more than to cause division among us by spewing his poison. He's such an ass and he's a proven liar so why would I give anything he said any credibility? Why would anyone?

:shrug:
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