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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 01:58 PM
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Santorum to filibuster Stem Cell Research bill?
Norm Ornstein on Al Franken's show, suggests there will be a republican filibuster on a stem cell research bill.

How funny is this? This bill is going to die with Bush's veto, but they are going to prevent a vote regardless. Republicans make democrats promise to not filibuster except in extraordinary circumstances, and they filibuster a bill for the sole purpose of saving Bush the political injury of having to veto a popular bill.

Politics as usual from the repugs.
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 01:59 PM
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1. What? the bill gets a straight up or down vote
and Bush vetos it? what happened to straight up or down votes?
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:00 PM
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2. Sanitorium or Brownback?
I heard it was the latter who was going to filibuster ...
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:11 PM
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He mentioned santorum
but it wasn't clear exactly where it would be coming from. But there has to be a number, right? Brownback and Santorum are likely dirtbags.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:17 PM
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10. Bring on the Filibuster!
Edited on Wed May-25-05 02:18 PM by AndyTiedye
It does rather strengthen our case for keeping the filibuster around, after all,
and there's no way Boosh** would sign the bill anyway.
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:03 PM
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3. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease God!
Let them do it.
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freedom_to_read Donating Member (623 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:05 PM
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4. yes... the more public the Republican opposition to this popular bill
the better
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:06 PM
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5. And let's see if the Democrats have the guts to rub their noses in it...
they probably will go "tsk tsk" and not make an issue of it...but the irony could be played masterfully
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:13 PM
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8. I think
Harry Reid would not be so fussy and do some vigorous nose-rubbing.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:07 PM
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6. I hope it passes, but failing that, let them try the filibuster.
the filibuster would fail, the cloture vote would win, and the bill would still go to Bush for his veto.

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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:11 PM
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7. Bring it on! That would be funnier than watching....


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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:17 PM
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9. My bet is that there will be 60 votes for cloture
If the Dems stick together and you pick up enough repubs that either favor the bill or who will decide to vote for cloture for appearance's sake, you'll probably get there. Remember, 81 voted for cloture on Owen's nomination, even though only 56 voted for confirmation. In other words, there will be a number of repugs that will vote for cloture even though they may turn around and vote against the bill.

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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:19 PM
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11. Probably, but I wouldn't mind several votes
where the republicans oppose a popular and morally-principled bill.
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BurgherHoldtheLies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 02:41 PM
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12. What an embarrassment for Pennsylvania. Melissa Hart too...
She wants to push for the snow flake baby adoptions (she's in the House, not the Senate...but JUST as embarrassing as Ricky). Excuse me while I :puke:
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 03:13 PM
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13. Is Frist really going to let this thing even get to committee?
He's the one setting the agenda. Smirk wants to veto this, but he usually lets the legislative branch do the dirty work - - have the bill killed in committee or voted down on the floor so that he can pretend he would have signed it if it ever got to him...
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-05 05:34 PM
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14. Can he keep it from being introduced?
The committee chair could keep it from being debated, maybe. I don't know.
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