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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:22 PM
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Has the local media just now started talking about the DSM?
The San Diego Union Tribune only today published the Washington Post story http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050612/news_1n12memo.html

Prewar memo calls U.S. short on postwar plan

British warned of costly occupation

By Walter Pincus
THE WASHINGTON POST

June 12, 2005

WASHINGTON – A briefing paper prepared for British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his top advisers eight months before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq concluded that the U.S. military was not preparing adequately for what the British memo predicted would be a "protracted and costly" postwar occupation of that country.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:24 PM
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1. But atleast it is finally getting out into public minds, the mighty
will fall soon.

:kick:
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:27 PM
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2. Like everything else related to the Iraq War,
those of us on liberal web sites got key information weeks and MONTHS before the newspaper-cable news aficionados got a glimmer.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:36 PM
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3. Hmm the fact I sent them the minutes
the whole article, on oh tuesday, may have had an effect, but notice

SUNDAY paper... asshats!
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 01:45 PM
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4. Lots of people bitched about their lack of coverage
Here is their excuse......

Critics of the Iraq war and the Bush administration sent e-mails last week criticizing
the Union-Tribune for its lack of front-page coverage of what has become known as
the "Downing Street memo." The document is based on a meeting July 23, 2002,
between British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his top security advisers.

As the May 14 story in the Union-Tribune by Washington Post writer Walter Pincus
pointed out, "the summer before the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, the head of British
foreign intelligence reported to Prime Minister Tony Blair that President Bush
wanted to topple Saddam Hussein by military action and warned that U.S.
intelligence was 'being fixed around the policy.' "

A story Thursday on Page A-11 said news about the memo has created a media
storm in Britain but hasn't received the same intensity of coverage in the United
States. As of Friday, when another article appeared inside the A-section, the story
had not received front-page coverage in the Union-Tribune although it has in the
San Francisco Chronicle and the Chicago Tribune. In fact, the story Thursday in the
Union-Tribune came from the Chicago Tribune. On Tuesday, the Union-Tribune
carried an opinion article by New York Times columnist Paul Krugman.

This is the type of story that the Union-Tribune must depend on news services to
report. So far, it appears the coverage in the United States by traditional media has
been slow and muted.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050523/news_mz1e23lubran.html
========================================================

Essentially, "nobody else was covering it so we didn't bother."
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:02 PM
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5. Damn I will take their little excuse and shove it
in their faces.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:14 PM
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6. and here it is


To the Editor,

You may wonder why your readership is at an all time low. You may also wonder why US news Media, per a recent survey, is at an all time low in credibility. Well here is one reason:

---------------------

Critics of the Iraq war and the Bush administration sent e-mails last week criticizing
the Union-Tribune for its lack of front-page coverage of what has become known as
the "Downing Street memo." The document is based on a meeting July 23, 2002,
between British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his top security advisers.

As the May 14 story in the Union-Tribune by Washington Post writer Walter Pincus
pointed out, "the summer before the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, the head of British
foreign intelligence reported to Prime Minister Tony Blair that President Bush
wanted to topple Saddam Hussein by military action and warned that U.S.
intelligence was 'being fixed around the policy.' "

A story Thursday on Page A-11 said news about the memo has created a media
storm in Britain but hasn't received the same intensity of coverage in the United
States. As of Friday, when another article appeared inside the A-section, the story
had not received front-page coverage in the Union-Tribune although it has in the
San Francisco Chronicle and the Chicago Tribune. In fact, the story Thursday in the
Union-Tribune came from the Chicago Tribune. On Tuesday, the Union-Tribune
carried an opinion article by New York Times columnist Paul Krugman.

This is the type of story that the Union-Tribune must depend on news services to
report. So far, it appears the coverage in the United States by traditional media has
been slow and muted.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050523/news_m...

---------------------------

Now the Times of London is not precisely a bad paper, or for that matter so called liberal either. Hell they published the minutes AFTER checking their credibility, a couple times over, you can bet. They are not a yellow journalist sheet. Now the San Diego Union Tribune is a right wing yellow journalist rag that is only fit for my bird's cage. The three birds love the photos, they use them for the only thing that they are fit for... I hear the paper is also good to wrap fish in.

Now you people may not realize this, but this city is increasingly LIBERAL... and Air America is a major source of news these days... not you, but Air America, the Guardian, the Times of London, the BBC... are noticing a pattern here?

Now I may also point to you a time when the US Press had a little more courage and realized what being part of the Fourth Estate was all about... the hot summer of 1973 to be exact... you may be correct if you assume that most people did not care about Watergate in the early days either, but we have had many stories over the last six years that RISE to the level of High Crimes and Misdemeanors, if you care to read the US Constitution instead of metaphorically burning it. YOU are supposed to be that balance and keep an eye on government, but your corporate chiefs have decided to muzzle and to silence you in everything ranging from our very corrupt City Hall all the way to the White House and all stops in between. Too bad, too sad, you are being replaced... now back to REAL news outlets (you are not one of them), and the blogs.

Sincerely,

XXXXXXXXXXXX
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LunaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:26 PM
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7. I love PASSION on a lazy Sunday afternoon!
I'm honored to have supplied the ammunition for your tirade. Nicely done!

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:30 PM
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8. Well thank you
what is worst, this is from the novel I am writing, (all similarities to current evetns are purely concidental ok)

(By the way very much a first draft)

Niuk'Tal was taken by surprise, as he realized the Xerxes knew what was the goal. She had not gone into his head, though a fast scan made him realize she could take him apart and kill him on the spot if she chose to. The Alien's forehead showed beads of sweat, and finally he decided to face this. “Tai, I am here to ask for terms. We face cleansing, but so do Chronosians.”
“Why is that?” Aidan asked, before anybody else could.
“You and your friend, the one you call O'Brian, you are the reason.”
“We are the reason?” Aidan asked repeating the words. “How?”
“You have essence. The People were created with essence as the repositories of essence, as we were chosen.”
“Ah yes, you were created by a God in his or her own image and with all attributes that were only yours. I have heard this story before.” Victor stood, and walked over to the Alien, who seemed to back away into the chair. “our own fanatics are saying the same thing about you. We should kill you since you are a threat to our existence as humans were created in the image of a beneficent God. In fact some of them are now arguing that Tal have no soul. This is amusing, could essence by Soul?” Victor shook his head. Victor knew now that this could give weapons to the leaders of some religious organizations, including the Yule Odinate, who were now arguing the Tal had no soul.
The Alien was taken aback, then he met the gaze of the young Regent. He also had essence, if not developed yet. Yiuk'Tal realized that Essence was rare but not as rare as he believed it to be. Unless it was concentrated among the leaders, just as among the Tal. Yet some of these people were also Warriors, like the Kir. “Tell me your people are asking the same questions?”
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 10:02 PM
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9. Compare this to the story by the Minneapolis Star Tribune
Readers' rep http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/5451062.html

They, too, were dependent on news service, but finally decided to put their own reporter and, last weekend, published the original memo

See also http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=109&topic_id=21349&mesg_id=21349
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