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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:14 AM
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Dean to Focus on 7 States After Shake-Up (AP) (new strategy)
Dean to Focus on 7 States After Shake-Up
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By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer

BURLINGTON, Vt. - Fresh off a staff shake-up, Howard Dean (news - web sites) is returning to the campaign trail, trying to regain his footing with a new strategy focused on the delegate-rich states most likely to determine this year's Democratic presidential nominee.

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"I think you are going to see a leaner, meaner organization," Dean told reporters Wednesday night. "We had geared up for what we thought would be a front-runner's campaign. It's not going to be a front-runner's campaign. It's going to be a long, long war of attrition."


Dean scheduled a rally Thursday at Michigan State University, choosing to re-emerge after his New Hampshire loss in a state that doesn't even vote on Tuesday. But Michigan plays prominently in his new strategy of focusing on states by delegate count, rather than calendar.

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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040129/ap_on_el_pr/dean&cid=694&ncid=1963&sid=96378798

The Dr. is playing it smart..he has a delegate lead which would erode after next week....picks it up again in Mich/Wash...plays the big states for March 2nd....which nobody can play in all 12 financially.

Becomes a war of attrition and delegates...inisder vs outsider
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:18 AM
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1. Gov. Granholm (MI) is about to endorse Kerry
Her husband is on Kerry's national steering committee. Even the Michigan Militia Ted Nugent types voted for Jennifer Granholm over the repuke candidate. She is revered by both Detroit and the U.P.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:19 AM
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2. "leaner, meaner organization...."
Does that mean more attacks and misrepresenting Kerry's views on the Iraq War and being intellectually dishonest about his real views on the IWR?

Having the ultimate insider running your campaign and saying you're an outsider?

Like the other states that voted, it's not going to stick.
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cid Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:32 AM
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6. Fact is Kerry voted for IWR, he voted for Patriot act, he voted
for the tax cuts. In fact, what bad policy did Kerry vote no on? Im not sure, but i seem to remember he didnt even vote on that horrible medicare bill and once again the Dems rolled over and let the Reps put thru the OT changes. When he calls Bush on any of this, all Bush has to say is that kerry voted for it. which either makes kerry look like a flip flopper who will say anything to get elected or that kerry didnt have the courage to stand for his convictions. If he can be portrayed as scared to stand up to Bush(which right or wrong he can be) how can the sheeples expect him to stand up to terrorists? that will be the spin and that will work. We will have Bush for the next four years.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:33 AM
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8. I agree.... Dean can stand up to Bush "on his record" and win
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:39 AM
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15. No, and luckily for us, he won't be the nominee and we will win
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:24 AM
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11. A few things...
Kerry voted for the IWR to get the UN to do its job, not the way bush did it. Kerry can easily call Bush on lying about the WMD threat, lying about Saddam's impending attacks and not complying with the IWR to work with the UN and use war as a last resort.

Kerry and everyone else voted for the Patriot Act during that time with the idea that many of the laws would sunset by 1/1/2005. It's a moot point. Kerry can call Bush as a manipulative ass who put in Ashcroft and added more laws and using the Patriot Act incorrectly.

Kerry did not vote for the Medicare act. He filibustered it.

Additionally, Kerry is not scared to stand up to Bush.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:35 AM
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13. Actually
Kerry didn't show up to the actual vote, only the filibuster. Guess there are more important things to do than vote against an idiotic GOP Medicare bill.
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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:22 PM
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20. Are you bragging he did not vote
Why did he not vote against it? Not opposing it is not something to brag about. It is something to hold against him. There are only 100 people in the Senate and every vote counts. But for it to count, you actually have to vote against the Republicans. Kerry is the insiders replacement for Bush. Kerry is part of the problem.
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Virgil Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:12 PM
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19. Please keep putting this up
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 12:17 PM by Virgil
He also did not vote and neither did Edwards or Lieberman on the $820 billion omnibus appropriations bill that was pork written by the White House with promise it would be vetoed if the overtime changes that were altered. This means 8 million people will lose overtime pay and it lost 48 to 45. Another big vote was the Trade Authority bill that also needed a super majority like the first big tax cut bill, that granted Bush the right to negotiate trade agreements for straight up approval with Congress. I am really not sure how he voted on this important bill, but it far exceeded the 60 votes needed and he did not oppose it as Hollings damned the act as neglecting Constitutional authority in a stirring speech from the Senate floor. This is a big deal as it is a Congressional duty, like declaring war, and it was handed over to the White House.

Kerry is who the establishment wants as they see Bush burning in flames. Kerry talks experience. Yeap. He was there as all this mess has gone on and should have known better. He surely should have voted better. Kerry is the lesser of two evils if he wins the nomination. You are dead on talking about his voting record.

How can he now be so opposed to Bush when he voted for him and was silent even as Byrd took to the Senate floor to show him what needed to be done? Please keep posting his voting record on these big issues that got us where we are now. Please say he is ahead because the PTB see him as their candidate and that that is bad for the people. Look at his voting record. Look at his silence.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:37 PM
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23. These bills were doomed to fail
The rap for missing the final Medicare vote is one of those distortions we complain about with our candidates. He was there all day the day of the vote. He lobbied behind the scenes. We know that he did. He fought that Medicare bill all of the way. Through committee, till the republican majority muscled it onto the floor. Once the cloture vote passed overwhelmingly (Kerry voted against it) the bill was destined to pass on the next vote. Even I walked away at that point. No one in that body has savaged John Kerry with the insinuation that he let them down on these bills because if they had a chance with his vote they would call and he would be there. But the only grousing comes from outside from folks who don't appreciate the political ins and outs.

I repeat: If they needed him there on these votes, if his vote would have made a difference, he would have been there with a phone call and a plane ride. I heard for instance of the slim margin that the budget bill passed with. 3 votes, someone exclaimed! There are seasoned vote counters in the Senate. They knew the fate of the bill the day before it came to the floor. This is not like Clinton's budget bill when we had control of the Senate and House. Also, the budget bills have no opportunity to amend them. It's an up or down vote that Sen.Kerry obviously was told was doomed or he would have been there. It's lousy politics but he is on the correct side of the arguments over these bills even if he doesn't have the singular power to change the outcomes.
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:46 PM
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24. The word "fact" doesn't mean much to you, does it?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:10 AM
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9. So Kerry can beat Bush by saying "I trusted you and you lied to me."?
Talk about poor judgement...
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:22 AM
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3. endorsements aren't the end all...we know that
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:23 AM
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4. "Leaner and Meaner"
Translation: We don't have any money left and we're really pissed about it.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:23 PM
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21. LOL n/t
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:23 AM
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5. He's in for the long haul :-)
And this is smart on his part.

And if he does well in any of next Tuesday's contests, he's beat expectations.

My gut tells me we'll see Dean at the convention. Hopefully as the nominee.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 10:32 AM
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7. it should be interesting to watch this unfold...the "people" vs the
DC "insider"...a classic.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:40 AM
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16. We will
see Dean at the convention. Of course.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:12 AM
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10. Why did you change the headline?
The real headline talks about Dean withdrawing ads in 7 states. You changed that to a line about how Dean is focusing on those 7 states.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:32 AM
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12. That was a different thread, r-e-l-a-x
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 11:37 AM by nu_duer
You're referring to this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=222883

no conspiracy

on edit: notice the lack of a red "this post edited" line at the top of the orginal post you accused the poster of editing
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:36 AM
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14. No I'm not. I referring to this thread. It's misleading
When I click on the link in your initial post, I get an article with the headline "Dean Skips Airing Ads in 7 Primary States"

Why did you change the headline?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:41 AM
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17. The headline to the orig. post in this thread has not been changed
Edited on Thu Jan-29-04 11:50 AM by nu_duer
Had it been changed, there would be a red "this post edited" line at the top. The thread-starting post has not been edited.

There are two threads. This one about how Dean's stratagy has changed, and another one about Dean not airing ads in next week's states.

I didn't edit etiher thread, since I didn't start either thread.

On edit: it appears the yahoo story has changed since this thread was started. If you spend any time on the yahoo news site, you know that they do that. Obviously, what was cut and pasted at the time the thread was created, and what the link now leads to are two different things. I have no doubt that, at the time the thread was created, the story read as it does in the orig. post. That story has been changed, updated, or whatever you want to call it.
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 12:24 PM
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22. Thanks for clearing that up
and I apologize for confusing you with poster that started this thread.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 11:45 AM
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MMT Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-29-04 02:06 PM
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25. "a long, long war of attrition" hmmm...same as Dennis's strategy
:)
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