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spaniard Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 05:55 AM
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That OTHER Losing George!
From Newdonkey:

My colleague The Moose greeted the Virginia gubernatorial results with the headline: "Warner Defeats Bush!" And indeed, Warner deserves a lot of credit for Kaine's win, not only because he campaigned effectively for his chosen successor, but because his record gave the Democrat a big leg up while reacquainting Virginians with the virtues of the Donkey.

There's also no question George W. Bush was a big loser yesterday, after having intervened in the Virginia governor's race at the last moment. At the rate he's going, Republican candidates next year may echo the words of Bob Dole in 1974, who, when asked if he wanted an embattled Richard Nixon to campaign for him in Kansas, said: "I wouldn't mind if he flew over."

But there's another Republican George whose repuation took a hit yesterday: Sen. Allen of Virginia. Back before it became fashionable to view the Kaine-Kilgore contest as a test of the relative appeal of Warner and Bush, it was often thought of as a shadow war between Warner and Allen, two Virginians eyeing a White House run in 2008. Allen certainly campaigned for Kilgore as much if not more than Warner campaigned for Kaine. Allen appeared in Kilgore's ads, vouching for the natty mountaineer's alleged sturdy folk virtues. The way things turned out, Allen's lucky Bush flew in to take the fall for Kilgore's debacle, but the race sure hasn't burnished his own presidential credentials.

That's certainly bad timing for the junior senator. Up until now, he was the Washington Insider's hot pick for the guy who might become the consensus conservative choice to block the awful prospect of a McCain nomination in '08. Indeed, he didn't seem to have much competition for that role. The nascent Bill Frist bandwagon has blown all four tires. Brownback's views are too crazy. Santorum probably won't hang onto his Senate seat. None of the GOP governors seem to be standing out (Bill Owens of Colorado was once the Rising Star of the Right, but he's managed to alienate the Christian Right with his marital problems and then was recently excommunicated by the No Tax Church of Grover Norquist). Guiliani's less acceptable to conservatives than McCain. Haley Barbour? Give me a break.

On paper, Allen looks pretty good. He's been a governor, then a senator. He's obnoxiously conservative on most issues, but has managed to avoid making too many enemies, and always did surprisingly well in Virginia among minority voters. He won rave reviews for his tenure as chairman of the Republican senatorial campaign committee... But he sure couldn't drag ol' Jerry across the finish line in his own state.

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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:31 AM
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1. Before I get any hopes up about Warner.....
Is there ANY dirt that can come out of the closet on him, I mean he seems like a great person.....should I dare dream???
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 07:57 AM
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2. He's our neighbor in Alexandria,
and they do not come any cleaner - or better - than Mark Warner.

He makes John Edwards look like a child molester, that's how clean he is.

Mark would be a brilliant President.

Dare to dream. Warner does.

(And his wife's even cooler than he is........)
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:03 AM
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3. He kinda resembles Bobby Kennedy
Thanks for the info, I'll have to check out his wife.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 10:16 AM
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4. I used to live in Old Town Alexandria ...
I knew Mark from the Old Presbyterian Meeting House. Actually, he is so good I hate to see him in politics.

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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 12:52 PM
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5. You got that right,
except he's so smart and so brilliantly talented, he could - I honestly believe this with all my jaded heart - change this world.

But, truth is, I fear for him and his family every day, and if he runs, I'll work my ass off for him, all the while worried to distraction for them.

He is that damn good.

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 01:08 PM
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6. That's cool.
Have you met him many times?
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