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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:00 PM
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One of the ex-Dover PA School Board members challenging the vote
For those of you totally unaware of what happened in Dover, PA - well it was amazing. About a year ago the School Board in Dover PA decided they were going to include Intelligent Design in the 9th grade science class.

Well, all heck broke loose including lawsuits that have been going up the judicial ladder. A group of democratics fielded candidates to run against the incumbant, republican school board and they SWEPT the election (one seat was not up for re-election and still has a pro-ID school board member). ANd mind you, this is a very conservative area of Pennsylvania so this is huge.

But reading this article in the Philly Inq I found this little quip:

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/13130383.htm

"Four years ago, people were polarized over the school building project; now they are polarized over intelligent design and voted in the liberal school board," said Jim Cashman, who is challenging the vote count because he contends a machine malfunctioned. "People think it's a religious issue, but it's not."

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The machine did not malfunction - what malfunction is a school board who thought they could force religion on its students even though there is something called the Constitution which says for separation of Church and State!!.

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And from the local York Newspaper:

http://ydr.com/story/doverbiology/93948/

Cashman ready to contest results
A voting machine might have malfunctioned in the Dover school board race.
By MICHELLE STARR
Daily Record/Sunday News
Thursday, November 10, 2005

York County's election office is investigating reports that a voting machine at Friendship Community Church in Dover Township malfunctioned and may not have recorded votes for an incumbent school board candidate.
Tuesday night, eight incumbents lost their seats on the Dover Area School Board to eight challengers in the opposition group Dover CARES.

James Cashman, who lost his run at a four-year term, said he heard late Tuesday that his votes weren't being counted.

Word of the malfunction spread to county officials Wednesday. Officials wouldn't comment about — or said they didn't know — what would be done if the machine didn't record votes that it should have.

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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:02 PM
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1. Great news. We need some GOP on our side to attack the voting machines.
Even though the guy is a nutjob, his nutjob following may be curious where this idea about defective/corrupt voting machines is coming from. I hope he does lots of shouting.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:02 PM
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2. This is hilarious
One of those people alleging machine malfunction?

Well, given that Pat Robertson just informed the good people of Dover, PA that God has washed his Almighty Hands of them - http://tinyurl.com/8nrhj - I guess the voting matter is moot.

They'll just have to sit and wait for their smiting.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:13 PM
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5. HOLY BATCRAP HE SAID THAT ABOUT DOVER
Well let's see, I lived in that area lets talk about what could happen to Dover


  • Not on the coast in a southern state so no hurricanes
  • Not on a major fault line so no Earthquake
  • Not around the pacific rim so no Volcanos
  • Not in Tsaumani region
  • Might get a Tornado but Pennsylvania Tornados are pretty minor compared to the midwest
  • Not near any major landmarks so more than likely not a target of foreign terrorists
  • Not on the NOrthern Border of the United States so winters are pretty average - maybe 1 or 2 bad storms a year
  • Not on a major river so very low chance of floods


So what are you praying for Pat? Locust? God taking their first born child? Some neo-con nutjob that follows you wiping out the school board?

Get a life!! I can't believe this asshole gets tax-free status. Why the hell aren't we getting the IRS involved
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:16 PM
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6. My worst fear for Dover
Edited on Thu Nov-10-05 02:17 PM by OldLeftieLawyer
is that Jerry Falwell's chins might land on the place.

Other than that, my guess is that God loves Dover, PA.

On edit: Or the lesbians will take over.

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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 03:03 PM
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8. Those are not chins!
They are God handles.

Regards,

Jerry
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:36 PM
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12. I could
use them as trapezes, I guess.

But I really don't want to.

Let's blame the lesbians...........
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 06:14 PM
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11. meteors, plagues, rains of frogs, something in the water
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:10 PM
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3. It was the intention of the Intelligent Designer for the machines to fail.
:rofl:
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:11 PM
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4. Cashman is upset at the Intelligent Design of the Dover Voters
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 02:30 PM
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7. Someone should remind the idjit
THE VOTES WERE COUNTED, YOU LOST - GET OVER IT!


What, they had one voting machine for the entire area? Do they think they're in Cleveland?
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 03:52 PM
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9. Memo to ex-school board : shut up and sit down!
Enough with this ID bullsh*t.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 04:37 PM
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10. A couple of things here...
first, what kind of machines were used. If it was the died-balls, then his bullshit arguement could have legs, sighting our investigations into Ohio and Florida and countless others. If however they were some other none electronic kind, then, his is, as they say, a dickhead.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-10-05 09:54 PM
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13. I have a question here. . .
You know, the more politically "involved" many churches/cults become, I am getting increasingly uneasy and annoyed about having them used as voting precinct locations. For one thing, isn't it possible that residents of a precinct, who might learn of repeated sermons at the polling place endorsing one issue or another...or, for that matter, one political party over another, could feel inhibited about going to that location to cast a ballot?

I don't have that problem with non-political public schools or private businesses that don't openly make political statements. But I find it increasingly odd that so many churches are used as voting locations when their administrations make public/political statements.
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