Chose a vp running mate for General Clark

[DanCa]

Poll question: Chose a vp running mate for General Clark

Okay I still dont want to see a politicians in the top spot for 08. Thier votting records are too easy to pick apart. With that said I am going to list several politicians all of whom would be fine with me.

[DemDogs]

1. Waste of time (n/t)

[StClone]

11. Some people play fantasy football

What's wrong with fantasy politics? :-)

[Uncle Joe]

It will make you go blind, no wait that's another fantasy. n/t

[AX10]

2. Dean, Seblius (Kansas), Doyle (Wisconsin), Obama

[Dem Agog]

3. I still say Warner has what it takes...

NASCAR rednecks (even the super-illiterate ones) like him. He took Virginia. He helped Kain. Warner's the one, IMHO. I pick him for the dark horse leading the ticket actually, just because he can swing the south.

Just my two cents. Being an ex-Virginia native, and having spoken with Warner on the TiVo community forum doesn't hurt either. He's in touch and quite cool.

[DanCa]

5. Warner is cool I agree with you. Any dem who can win a red state

is allright with me.

[William769]

4. IMHO

Wesley Clark will not run. :(

[Adelante]

8. What makes you think that?

You seem so certain.

[William769]

12. Just years of being around politics.

I would love for him to run, I just don't see it happening.

[Adelante]

22. I think if he senses he has the support, he will run

That's true of any of them. If the backing's not there, not too much sense in doing it. But he's gained a lot of stature in the party since the primaries and he still has a good amount of his original support base and he still raises money extremely well, so I keep my hopes up. Even if he decides against it in the end, he's still a great leader and a great American, and whatever he does, this country's lucky to have him. He's going to come to a decision after 2006, that's when we'll know.

[Clark2008]

35. Really now.

Then why does he have "people" in Tennessee?

Because he does and he told me to my face who to talk to.

Why would someone who's not running have "people?"

[BootinUp]

9. Ya think?

What was it that convinced you of this? I have the opposite impression. ;)

[mcscajun]

23. I'll bet good money it's a certainty he'll run again.

I stand with the General. So do many others.

[BootinUp]

6. I sure like the thought of Obama for VP. :-)

The man has charisma, highly intelligent...all he needs is a spot on the ticket.

[wakeme2008]

7. While I love Boxer, she does have a major

problem, being a Senator with a lot of votes to defend. That one reason I love Clark and Warner.

[ronnykmarshall]

30. Plus she's mine ....

and you guys can't have her!!

My senator! My senator!!

[Donna Zen]

10. I've always thought that Clark would chose a woman

...and I like Selbius. Boxer is my favorite, but 1) she's great in the senate and 2) we need to look around the red states for a running mate. We may not carry Kansas, but we can put some holes in other states with a red-state governor.

BTW, Clark/Warner would win. No doubt in my mind. None at all.

[faithfulcitizen]

13. other-Richardson or Bayh

[Idioteque]

14. Feingold!!! n/t

[Adelante]

15. I just started thinking Clark/Warner

Before this I liked Clark/Corzine or Clark/Feingold, but after Wes endorsed Kaine, I started to see more in Warner, that is, learn more about him. Maybe a good ticket.

[shenmue]

16. Several good ones

But in my opinion the best is Conyers.

[Don Claybrook]

17. How 'bout Cheney?

I know, it sounds crazy, but think about it:

-Before even starting as a VP, he already has a 19% approval rating. And that means he has household name recognition.

-No more wrangling about whether or not to pick a Southern/Western/Eastern Seaboard VP; he's from all of those places (Texas, Wyoming, and now Maryland's Eastern Shore).

-I think he'd get the porn vote. If you're not sure what I'm talking about, look around for the picture of Cheney in the slacks that show of his big Republipackage.

-Finally, if he doesn't work out as VP, it would be a very simple matter to have someone sneak up behind him and say "boo", thereby ushering in coronary #4.

Just thinking outside the much-maligned box.

[Auntie Bush]

51. I think you are mistaken...

That bulge was his Depends.

" picture of Cheney in the slacks that show of his big Republipackage. "

[Dem Agog]

18. As a Woman May I Just Say?....

I'm so concerned about getting Republians out of power for GOOD that I almost don't want a woman, or any other form of minority on the ticket. I know, that's bad. It makes me a self-hating misogynist, I guess...

But I want the strongest ticket. I want the ticket that even the backwoods, illiterate, bigoted jackasses will vote for, but the ticket that will do things that are good not Republicans who pretty much are just evil these days.

I want a ticket that can win and I think most of America is too uneducated, too bigoted and too hateful to vote for a woman or minority. I am sad to say it, but it's true. It's part of the reason I'm a big NO on Hillary. Not only does she divide too much, but the bigots won't vote for her and let's face it everyone -- bigots and assholes make up most of America.

I guess I feel it's just impossible. It would be my dream, a woman President or VP who is competent and great and strengthens America. I just don't trust my fellow citizens to vote for her. :(

[Donna Zen]

28. Nevertheless, Clark could run with a woman

...he may be the one Democrat that could be helped by the move. Also, I believe that he might insist on it. That's how he thinks.

[montanacowboy]

19. GOV. BRIAN SCHWEITZER OF MONTANA

Kicks repuke butts and takes no prisoners

[xray s]

32. amen!

That would be a tough ticket to beat.

We need new, fresh faces on the national ticket.

:thumbsup:

[TNDemo]

20. Oprah.

nt

[featherman]

21. New rule: Avoid naming any Senator to the ticket

[DanCa]

24. Clark/general chensiky ?

The guy bush fired and whose last name that I know i spelled wrong.

[Clark2008]

37. Shenseki

Just helping a fellow Clarkie. :)

Here they are - already together!!

[DanCa]

47. Thank you my friend.

Some people write like a chicken I spell like one.

[brentspeak]

25. Boxer would go down like a Led Zeppelin in much of the country

She's a great senator, but reality can't be changed.

[Lena inRI]

38. Depends on how angry electorate becomes re: Iraq war. . .

Barbara Boxer stood up to the pro-war propaganda ALWAYS.

Also, her hard-working, persevering, succinctly-speaking character is a natural, good match with Clark's.

If Boxer won't run, then Kathleen Sebelius or Harry Reid are good alternatives, both personally and strategically.

What I'm talking about here is a solid

progressive-populist liberal ticket.

We need REAL CHOICES for REAL CHANGES.

No more pussy-footing around with cowering, moderate Republican-lite choices. . .hear that Dr. Dean?

:kick:

[Clark2008]

39. Lena... I love Boxer, but, how can I put this...

Um, you're in Rhode Island - you know, where there are actually people who vote for "libruls."

I'm in the South, where we have to have liberals posing as moderates to win - much like Clark, who is very liberal, but who would never be thought of as one because of his military background. Elected from the middle, governing from the left - you know.

Boxer won't fly in the red states, and, by gosh, I want to flip some red states.

No offense, please, fellow Clarkie. :hug:

[Lena inRI]

41. What enables you to love Boxer as a Southerner?

Whatever the answer, this too, can be how fellow southerners could become enamored with her. . .

Plus, IMHO, her personal qualities as a self-made, successful business person and persevering legislator would weigh far more in people's minds than just her voting record that may or may not agree with them.

What I'm banking on here is Barbara's charismatic connection with people which would create many, many Clark2008's in your southern state by 2008 election.

I truly foresee people becoming fed up with the phony image-makers after 8 years of Bush bull*. . .they'll want honest up-front PERSONALITIES.

Clark/Boxer is as honest as it gets.

(BTW, I never take offense to your excellent, insightful comments. . .

:hi:

[Clark2008]

45. Because I was raised by hippies and am engaged to

a New England liberal.


LOL!

Seriously, there's not too many of my type around here. :7

[bowens43]

26. What will he be running for?

His abysmal performance in the 2004 primaries should have ended his political ambitions.

I can't believe that so many here are willing to turn our government over to the product of 30 years of military indoctrination. He spent his entire career looking for military solutions to political problems.

[FrenchieCat]

33. I don't see the abysmal perfomance you refer to.....

What primaries were you following?

Clark was just ahead of his times....as his message on values combined with National Security ended up being exactly what the general election of 2004 was indeed about.

It should also be important to note that Clark did win a primary state that was not his own....the only candidate to do so apart from Front Runner and winner John Kerry....and he did so without the help of free positive publicity ....something that both Kerry and Edwards received in spades from the Iowa results onward. Further, Clark also came in 2nd in 3 southwestern states (again without media assistance), and fared well in NH, considering that he came in third after 2 New England natives and before Iowa 2nd place winner Edwards. To note, Wes got out of the race gracefully after understanding that he would get no positive free media (something that one must have to affect the masses) and worked about as hard as anyone could have during the GE for John Kerry.

Whether most Democrats understood the Clark campaign's approach to the issues is more at question. I think they did not, until too late.....and certainly way after the primaries. Of course the Dems' understanding of what the GE would be truly about was not helped by the corporate media, who made sure not to publicize what many of us should have known, and what Clark predicted....that the GE would be about security and values.

So all in all, I believe if one were to examine the Clark '04 Campaign, understanding it's limitations by not competing in Iowa and having started very late and the candidate being an absolute Novice and Democrats questioning his party credentials.....actually Clark should and did impress the Democratic leadership and activists, regardless of the Corporate media meme which proclaimed him "not ready for primetime"...something that was a deliberate ploy to deny Clark any dues for his performance, which was a disingenious assessment not deserving, and which many would like to buy into, as evidenced by your post.

Further, you have nothing to back up your own words of criticism toward Clark....

Clark spent his entire career doing an awful lot of negotiating and diplomacy, promoting minorities, and rebuilding the destroyed army left by Vietnam. Back when Clinton was handing out the Medal of Freedom (and they meant something), I'm sure that he didn't pin one on Wes Clark because of Clark's "military" indoctrination.

There are only a few posters that religiously do this hit and run Clark thread business, making negative statements without ever backing any of it up....and you are the most faithful.

[brentspeak]

27. On the other hand, snagging a moderate Repub like Olympia Snowe

or Susan Collins as VP could put Clark over the top.

[DanCa]

48. Wild thought Clark Mccain ?

Please no flaming. Just an honest question.

[windbreeze]

56. No flame, but absolutely NOT

Didn't Kerry already go there...and more or less live to wish he hadn't???? A few years ago, I would have voted for McCain for Pres....uh uh...no more...those few years have taught me, that he is a dyed in the wool Republican...
windbreeze

[Catchawave]

29. Other/none of the above :) n/t

[Rowdyboy]

31. Schweitzer, Richardson or Landrieu

[Ladyhawk]

34. Conyers ALWAYS has our back. n/t

[Capn Sunshine]

36. Hillary Clinton

She was right on Healthcare, let her have another crack at it.

Damn that would be one hellacious battle of the egos though.

[Clark2008]

40. Do you want to lose?

She'd drag Clark down in the purplish-red states, I'm afraid.

I voted for Warner, for what it's worth. I'm not a huge fan because of his Bilderberg ties, alone, but I think a Clark/Warner ticket would be the best bet to beat whatever the hell the Republicans throw at us.

[NYdemocrat089]

42. Other

Hillary Clinton or John Kerry

[wiley]

43. Warner would be great

Any Democratic woman mentioned so far and many others would also be excellent, but it would be very difficult. Clark could take Tennessee and Arkansas, Arizona, Iowa, Virginia and possibly North Carolina. The states that Kerry won would all go to Clark, including Ohio. Oklahoma would also be in play.


Repugs will pull out every illegal, underhanded device and tactic to suppress, change, undercount and disqualify the vote in 06 and 08, so be ready! There will be both angry, uncompromising left and angry uncompromising right candidates who will present problems for everyone running in 08. There is also going to be a very ugly race war.

[Toronto Ron]

44. Feingold (n/t)

[nickshepDEM]

46. Warner would be good, but I prefer Warner/Anybody.

[Pithy Cherub]

49. Clark/ Whomever Clark chooses...

Someone who is aligned with him liberally and with Clark's world view.

[Dave Sund]

50. Obama

He's going to be President one day.

[FrenchieCat]

52. Don't know enough about Warner.....

but if he ain't leading the ticket.......he might just "do".

Personally, I like Loretta Sanchez still. That pair would hit the GOP totally upside the head. The GOP wouldn't know what to do!

Oh well.......we shall see.

Just remember, Clark ain't gonna get any media unless he wins something Big....like Iowa. So he's either gonna be a Grassroots all the way type of candidate, coz until then, he will be ignored by the Corporate media....ya know!

[Crazy Guggenheim]

53. What about Lyndon LaRouche?

:popcorn: :woohoo: :hide: :applause:

J/K. I chose Boxer.

[Captain Hilts]

54. RICHARDSON. nt

[Auntie Bush]

55. I'd like to say Warner or Boxer but have problems with both.

I really don't know enough about Warner, but I like what I do know.

I really like Boxer, but I'm sorry to say, I think a southern gentleman would have a better chance to win. Rethugs want their women in bed or in the house fat and pregnant with no birth control. They have no respect for woman and probably wouldn't vote for one!
Unfortunately we need some of their votes.


Now if Rethugs run Condi then I'm all for Boxer...but I'd hate to lose her in the senate.