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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:42 PM
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Howard Dean is weaning the DNC off corporate money.
In spite of Big Eddie's big mouth on this topic, in spite of the TV talking heads spouting their talking points...he is doing what he set out to do.

Chris has a diary up about this.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2005/11/16/173244/43

He mentions this from June:

If we are indeed going to have an Indycrat realignment in 2006, it is going to be at least partially because of growing Democratic independence from traditional sources of power in Washington: lobbyists and big donors. As was reported back in June, Dean has already freed the DNC from any reliance on big donors whatsoever (emphasis mine):

As a fund-raiser--the first duty of a party chairman and Dean's claim to fame in '04--he isn't quite the disaster some critics suggest. Early in the last "cycle," in 2001, the Republican National Committee outraised the DNC by a 3-1 margin. So far this year, that ratio has been cut to 2-1. More important is the way it was raised. In the past the party relied on "soft money" from millionaires. But such donations are now illegal. Officials esti-mate that $12 million of the $14 million the Dean regime has collected so far this year has come from those who gave less than $250. "For people who really look hard at the numbers, he's wowing people," says Elaine Kamarck, a respected DNC member.


And remember that although Ed Schultz and all the others were saying he was poor at fundraising....Dean right now is over 10 million ahead of McAuliffe's fundraising in 2003....and he has not tapped the biggest donors. This is amazing.

Here is more from DailyKos about this.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/11/14/125530/33

Kos points out Dean is ahead of previous years, even after the stunning
losses of last year. And the money left in the states has not counted
toward it. He has funded directors in 38 states for far. Good diary.

So Dean has cut the RNC's traditional 3-1 advantage (or more) in fundraising to a 2-1 advantage and raised $11 million more than McAuliffe raised in 2003. Not to mention that Dean's numbers come the year after a presidential election -- the worst political fundraising time possible, while McAuliffe's came during the presidential cycle. Meanwhile, the RNC has remained static.

Dean has also been fundraising in the states, FOR the states. Past DNC chairmen would sweep into Lousiana or California, raise some money, and then ship the cash off the DC. Dean has garnered raves in the states for funneling that money to the local parties. Those are dollars not tallied in the RNC versus DNC comparisons. Mehlman isn't out tirelessly raising money for state parties.

So what's the source of all the kvetching? The big donors are upset that Dean hasn't kissed enough ass.

Dean was selected by outside-the-beltway Democrats, despite proclamation from establishment DC-based Dems that Dean would be the death of the party. If it was up to the DC crowd, Dean wouldn't have gotten within 500 miles of DC.

Again, Dean has already surpassed McAuliffe's vaunted presidenital-cycle numbers. Period. And they'll only get better. Dean has started rebuilding the state parties -- something DC Democrats could care less about (considering they never bothered trying to do it before).


Oh, I forgot...Happy 57th Birthday, Governor Dean.














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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:50 PM
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1. Refreshing news...
I don't recall ever hearing complaints about a lack of ass kissing in D.C.

Like him or not, the Democratic party could use allot more of his brand of forthrightness.
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jackster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:50 PM
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2. playing out just as THE PEOPLE thought it would
Dean speaks for the common man, woman, and child

Let's keep coughing up those dollars! I don't give much at a time because I can't, but every time I get paid, I make sure some deserving progressive/liberal entity gets paid.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 12:52 PM
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3. And did you see this article from yesterday about the House Dems?
http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/111605/kstreet.html

Following electoral triumphs this fall, House Democratic leaders are meeting with Democratic lobbyists today in a bid to translate the party’s widespread enthusiasm into cash to fill campaign coffers.

Yet the meeting, one of a number of its kind, comes as some lobbyists are grumbling that they have not been enjoying the same access to House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) as they have in the past.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:02 PM
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5. Yep, the lobbyists are getting their noses out of joint.
I think 3 big donor fundraisers resigned from the DNC pouting because Dean was not encouraging them.

That is why it is so important to buy Democracy Bonds.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:11 PM
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21. Good!!
I'm glad to hear that. And I'm glad to hear the democrats are unified on this issue. They all are aren't they?
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:58 PM
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26. We can only hope (although I have little hope for the DLC). NT
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:01 PM
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4. One thing he could do more
thanks to Big Ed's mouth, is to completely quell the establishment wimp thunder by politicking the nascent lefty talk show hosts, the nascent egos yearning for great distribution leaps and pretenders to the crown of left wing champion. Not only are they a few egos, they offer a platform to the listeners at the same time. It can't hurt especially if some disgruntled nuisances or pale old timers are literally sneaking into the vacuum. Ed looks like the old fashioned guy who would be well courted by direct contact, which doesn't hurt with anyone who is not a sneak intending to stab you in the back.

I don't know if Dean has his reasons, because once going on liberal radio personality's show you had better go them all, but so far his judgment has seemed really solid, and even quietly effective- which is what really disarms his critics.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:05 PM
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6. Dean did go on there, they had a good interview.
Big Eddie is not about to give him his due. We send them research and facts and figures whenever they goof up about Dean...they say thank you and just keep on.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:49 PM
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15. Once?
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 01:50 PM by PATRICK
If I am not mistaken Ed shows his immaturity by being miffed when Dean geographic neighborhood. It does get lonely in ND. And his other regulars keep reinforcing his lean away even if they don't trashtalk Dean.

Lots of egos to soothe but if one has a decent audience it is something to consider not to allow a distant war to develop. I think definitely he got a little whiny about that and his prioritizing of issues and old style liberal politics. He dialogs with the rightie callers and maybe would like to feel the mainstream party is backing him up not isolating him.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:42 PM
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16. Several times.
We have to keep sending them research. Maybe someday they will catch on.

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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:47 PM
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18. Then it is a chronic problem
like Jerry Springer of having too many sentimental toes dipped in the poisoned and malformed "centrist" well, although their wavering swing centrists are well worth saving and definitely anti-Bush.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:53 PM
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34. Dean should send Big Ed a recipe for venison
The man is an avid hunter and loves to hunt game birds, if Dean
would appeal to the hunting, fishing crowd, he would go over big
with big Ed.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:09 PM
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7. All for Clean Money... but
How realistic is it to try to compete with the Republicans right now with only grassroots money -- as long as they are sucking up big money donations they will always have a cash advantage. Until we can regain control of the Congress and set some firm Clean Money laws, this could backfire on the Dems.

Further more - not all the big money donors to the Democratic party are tied to evil corporate empires.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:10 PM
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8. Not going with just small donors. Not the point.
It is the lobbyist types who want the wrong things in exchange for their donations.
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kerrygoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:13 PM
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9. I understand the point -- however
We can't compete financially without $$. We'll see how this goes, it seems, but as much as I don't want us beholding to lobby types, we have to be able to compete.

Another point about this is choosing to work with lobbyists that lobby in our interest.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:21 PM
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11. He does get some corporate money.
The RNC is so out of control, that you simply cannot compare our fundraising with theirs.

This is being done differently. Many of the DC congressional Democrats are hoping it doesn't work. Trust me. Then they can get back to the comfort level they are used to having...the one where they ignore us when they vote against our interests.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:26 PM
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12. I do trust Dean to know
the difference. I'm sure he wouldn't turn down money from a corporation who only wanted to help insure against runaway fascism and not expect "favors" in return.

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Beth in VT Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:06 PM
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19. You can raise as much or more from small donors
if you have broad enough participation, it's a numbers game. Dean broke all previous fundraising records during the primaries and turned traditional weightings of large and small donors upside down.

There are benefits to engaging bigger numbers of people on this level, in that they are energized and attracting others to get involved, and they are the bigger donors of tomorrow. This is the same reason the Met Museum needs its $35 members.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:45 PM
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31. Correct. As he said about sending $10 a month from 2 million people....
That is 20 million a month working funds. That is more than the GOP. And there a lot more Democrats than that.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:55 PM
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24. Dean isn't rejecting corporate donations, he's just not seeking them.
Edited on Thu Nov-17-05 04:13 PM by mzmolly
I think it's a step forward. Though I'll take any "green" we can get, I like the idea of bringing politics back to the people.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:18 PM
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10. I was just going to say
HAPPY BIRTHDAY, DEAN!

Thanks for getting all this good info on Dean's "fundraising" on his birthday, madfloridian!

Last year I sent him a birthday card through the mail and thanked him for all he's done for us..this year I'm gonna go over to the site and email him a birthday wish. :)
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:31 PM
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13. Help defeat corrupt corporate $ and give Dean a B-day gift
at the same time. Donate to the DNC!

https://www.democrats.org/page/contribute/

I'm overjoyed that Dr.Dean was born on this day 57 years ago!
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Peter Frank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 01:40 PM
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14. K & R... nt
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 02:44 PM
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17. Thank Gawd for that
If we are ever to really re-make this party, that is JOB ONE>

I think he can do it. He raised gazillions in his primary, a whole lot from me and family members.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:10 PM
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20. I knew Dean was the perfect man for the job
He knows how to do things. :) He's great! And I like how he's returning the party back to us and not to the corporations like the republicans.
And I love how he's really doing his fifty state strategy and helping those states build the party. Yay!
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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:16 PM
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22. Just like he said he would. Thanks Dean, and happy B-day! (eom)
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:50 PM
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23. "This is amazing." Indeed it is as this isn't even an election year!
WOW !!!!
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SeanQ Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:55 PM
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25. I have my democracy bond, do you have yours!?
http://democrats.org/democracybonds.html

WE are the fuel for democracy!

Happy birthday Dr. Dean!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:14 PM
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28. Indeed I do!
:hi:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 03:59 PM
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27. Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 04:25 PM
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29. I knew it, I knew it!
I just hadn't seen any proof or validation:

Dean has garnered raves in the states for funneling that money to the local parties. Those are dollars not tallied in the RNC versus DNC comparisons.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 06:28 PM
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30. This is the most optimistic news I've heard since the Libby indictment
and over the long term, the most important.

Can you imagine the effect on the Democratic party and on the country if we could actually get weaned off corporate money?

Personally I don't think the Republicans would stand a chance if we can eventually be seen as the party that can take the government away from corporations and give it back to the American people.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 07:06 PM
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32. YEARGH!!!
That's how it's done! My main man Dean knows what's up. He knows which side his bread is buttered. When you are financed by the people. You are beholden to the people.

The people's money, the people's candidates, the people's issues, the people's republic...OK that sounded communist but you know what I mean.

Happy birthday Dr. Dean! :toast:

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radio4progressives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-17-05 08:20 PM
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33. Good Post... Please send this to the Clinton Shill, "Big Ed"..
I wrote him a quick note to let him know his attempt to discredit Dean was a GOP win, because the DLC corporate shills brought this country to the state of fascism it is in today, and that he better get a clue that Dean trying something that's about changing that old paradigm of 'corporate first' 'citizen's last' routine. something to that effect...

he needs to hear from a whole more people on this point.
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Ysolde Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 11:02 AM
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35. Great analysis...
I'm so glad you summarized this all here. Dean motivated me to get back involved in the local politics and I think we're making a difference here (hard to tell, we've got sooooo far to go), so I was discouraged when I heard a blurb that "fundraising was down" under Dean. Thanks for clarifying things. It all makes so much more sense and I'm glad that things are working out like We The People thought it would.

Thanks!
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 02:19 PM
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36. I'm a "sustaining member" of the DNC.
$30/mo. I consider it "union dues."
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-18-05 03:29 PM
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37. Shhhhhh Stop saying nice things about Dean.....
What will the I Hate Howie crowd have to complain about?

Happy belated birthday MR. CHAIRMAN!

:hug: to you Mad, always nice to see your posts!
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