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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:44 PM
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This fall's "New Product Rollout" - *'s wife in 08
That's right, folks. The Katrina shoe-shopping perjurer, who ignored 54 warnings that UBL would attack the US by hijacking airliners, and used that thundering success as a catapult to the Cabinet, Condy-sleeza Rice, is being pushed by the MSM for the WH. Last Sunday, Tweety and his NBC Bushies were talking about how popular she is, how she would be a lock for the WH. Now Barbara Walters will serve as her pitcher for a campaign-style softball-swatting exhibition on ABC.

It's perfect. Anyone who truthfully calls her incompetent, a failure, or a perjurer will be branded a racist AND a sexist. She'll be untouchable. Welcome to hell.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:46 PM
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1. "Evita, Evita" ... that's the first thought/earworm I had ...
I can just see her on the balcony with her arms outstretched ...

Welcome to hell indeed.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:47 PM
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2. Not a snowball's chance
Edited on Tue Nov-29-05 02:53 PM by OldLeftieLawyer
No, Condi's already history, and intensely disliked, believe me. She's never run for office, she's branded with the monstrousness of this administration, Iraq especially, and she's unlikeable.

Tweety and his ilk are idiots. 2008 is three years away. They do like to make noise, but that's all it is.

Don't worry, though - not Condi. Never Condi.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:50 PM
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4. Oh I so agree with you
on that. After all, didn't Tweety just last night (?) say that everyone still likes Bush**? Hardly Tweety, hardly.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:53 PM
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8. I watch him rarely,
but Tweety seems to be whoring in all possible directions, no matter when I turn him on.

He's really quite disposable.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:58 PM
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12. I never watch him.
I think the last time I saw him was when ole Zell was asking for a duel. I can't stand him and do not trust him at all. Whatever he says it can't be counted on as anything more than just him looking for ratings or expressing one of his particular crushes so I don't bother. I catch up here on DU. If he says it it really means little it seems.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 03:02 PM
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16. He is whoring for his BROTHER, folks!!!!
Tweety's brother is running on the GOP ticket at LT GOV of PA in 06.

He is sucking up like crazy to the GOP to help his bro--they aren't gonna get behind anyone without a little quid pro quo, so Tweety is doing his bit to unlock the safe and free up a little of that RNC cash.

Connect the dots, follow the money. It's obvious what he is doing, when you do that!!!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 03:22 PM
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24. That makes some kind of sense
but I could never do that, even for my dear brothers. It makes me gag.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 03:37 PM
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25. He even INTERVIEWED his brother a while back
His whoredom knows no bounds!!!

Here's the transcript, scroll down: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6335942/

His criticism muted once his baby bro threw his hat into the ring--and he calls himself a journalist???
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 03:44 PM
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26. I was wondering
if he is considered a journalist or a pundit. I have never watched him, he just seems kind of slimey to me. That may be unfair but since I could never pin him down it just seemed so schizo, made me nuts. So do you know what he is considered? I would expect just the news from a journalist, lol I am sooo naive, they all seem like pundits these days.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 03:59 PM
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27. He's a "commentator" but he has self-referred himself as a journo
I've heard him "include himself in" when discussing media responsibility.

What he really is, is a blowhard and a shill. And he really should be ashamed of himself!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 04:00 PM
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28. Just as I pegged him!
Thanks.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:50 PM
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5. I agree with OLL
Condi won't be their nominee, but I have high hopes for a protracted & ugly GOP primary season.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:52 PM
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7. You blessed fingers on that keyboard
to God's ears, honey.

Nothing sweeter than when they start devouring each other.

I got popcorn, and you're invited..............
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 11:29 PM
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36. There's a paranoid part of me that says there will be no monstrous
primary fight among the Puggies. Someone will be anointed, the corps will bathe the anointed one in cash, and the machine will move on with a new figurehead.

At this point the Illuminati just can't risk having some unapproved candidate win, and especially can't afford leaving the last 8 years (not to mention 1981-92) open to investigation.

This is not to say that the final Anointed Winner can't be a DLC Dem. I think Clinton was one of those. Remember how he shut off Iran-Contra & a few other unfinished items "for the good of the country?" Not to mention NAFTA, welfare "reform," a bungled universal healthcare camaign, etc. Clinton, in other words, was "acceptable" to the Illuminati.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 10:03 AM
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37. I hate to say this,
but I agree with you.

Maybe the best we can hope for in the go-round will be peace and a certain variation of prosperity. It might be too much to hope for rebuilding our failing infrastructure and a shot at some decent universal healthcare, but I must maintain a small amount of true hope or my old head will explode.

At the very least, it'll be interesting. Look at how compelling events are now - after months of refusing to watch news programs or anything having to do with Fuckface, I find myself seeking out news, because, finally, the liars are being outed.

It's all still far too high a price to pay, though. I'm still having nightmares about young American soldiers being shot.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 03:15 PM
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21. Agreed
she is unelectable. Not to mention the fact that there are idiots who won't vote for her because she is black, then another group who won't vote because she is female, and then the entire Democratic party. She wouldn't win.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 10:02 PM
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33. Condi could run-just not as a republican
Not until all the racists in the party are dead
Around 2080 or so.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 11:10 PM
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39. If she can't run as a Puggie, then what would she run as?
A Tory? A Nazi? The Dems don't want anything to do with her & the Greens even less.
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Ravy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:48 PM
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3. I think they are wrong.
I don't think she has a chance, even if she should somehow make it through the primaries.

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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:51 PM
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6. She'd crumble in any debate or unrehearsed interview. n/t
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:55 PM
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10. You better believe it!
I don't think she's got the moxie to stand up to any kind of independent pressure - she wouldn't even have 15 sec. of fame without the Bushes to prop her up.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 03:04 PM
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17. You mean like Smirk?
:eyes:
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:54 PM
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9. I saw a Rice '08 bumper sticker.
the thing is.. it would ruin the republicans southern strategy.
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Dark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:56 PM
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11. I'm sure the south will vote for a BLACK WOMAN to be president. n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:59 PM
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13. I rather doubt it would float, frankly
They can TRY it, but the American public just will not LIKE it. So they won't buy it.

Of course, right now, there's no one else aggressively looking to step up to the plate--but if McCain challenged her, he'd blow her pricy shoes right off her. Chuck Hagel could eat her for lunch, too. I just cannot see her getting past the primary. Even giving a speech, she sounds like a quavering, quivering, frightened little girl giving her Science Project presentation--she has ZERO stage presence, no ability to talk extemporaneously with a camera on her, and she does not know how to control her pitch, modulation or her facial features--she either is grinning like a fool or scowling mightily. She'd need FOUR ROVES to wrangle her into something acceptable and presentable on a day-to-day basis.

Most importantly, she's incompetent, and she has a record of that. Even without the racists staying home, they would have to Diebold that primary, in every state, AND the election, at Stalinist levels--none of that "cheating around the margins" business--it would have to be ballot stuffing like Saddam's last effort. And if they succeeded, there'd either be blood in the streets or a mass exodus--and then America would be a third world, has-been nation.

Here's my take on the whole thing: they want her as the VP. Pair her with any of the GOP maybes, and you've got all those "firsts" (woman, African heritage, never elected to any office, blah blah) to contend with, without the ultimate responsibility (assuming the top choice stays healthy).
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 02:59 PM
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14. Don't Presidents have to smile sometimes? I don't think Condi can. n/t
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 03:01 PM
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15. Unfortunately for her, she participated in lying to the people
in the campaign to go to war with Iraq. In addition, remember her discussing the "historical document" called BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE THE US? She is full of it, just another corrupt right wing talking point repeater.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 03:06 PM
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19. And that, right there, is the Democrats' campaign commercial!
Never mind all that "going negative" crap. Just air that bit, over and over, with a shot of the WTC at the end. Truth: Ain't it a pain in the ass!
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 03:21 PM
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23. Yes, couple this treason with her LYING to Boxer in front of committee
for her current 'position. She cannot overcome her numerous crimes when truth is brought to bear.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 03:06 PM
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18. Their pushing of Condi..
... is a back door shove for Hillary. The soooooooooo want us to nominate Hillary, with the bogus promise that they will run Condi.

The Repugs might be amoral, but they aren't stupid enough to really believe Condi could win. Who is her constituency?

Southern rednecks? No way.
Northern moderates? Maybe
Blacks? Not a chance.
The "swing" voter? Umm.... why?

What does Condi have going for her?

Accomplishments? No.
Charisma? Not even a little bit.

Seriously, I don't know if this is just Tweety being the fool he is, or this is him marching order talking point. Since he's not the only one talking this way, I vote the latter. And I believe it is part of their strategy to get a Dem they can beat like a red-headed stepchild, and that would be Hillary.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 03:15 PM
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20. There is no possible way she could win almost any southern state
Most people down there are still ridiculously racist and a lot of the sentiment around there is still very sympathetic with the confederacy. There's no way that lady can even get the Republican nomination. However, if enough northern states outnumber the southern states in that race, it can still be a possibility. If she does though, she won't win very much of the electorate.

I'm going to admit, I think she's an evil bitch but I also think it would be a great feat for us to nominate such a minority to a major party. If she truly does get the nomination, I will applaud the Republican party for ignoring the calls fromt he religious right/whacko racist/segregationists in the party.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 10:15 PM
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34. If you win California and either New York or Illinois...
...the South is irrelevant.

A Republican woman candidate puts more states into play in the North and West Coast than she loses in the Deep South.

Maine is a reliably blue state. In 1992, George Bush I finished third here.

Yet we have two GOP senators, one of them -- Collins -- was originally elected in 1996 because her Democratic opponent was a lifer (ex Gov. ex AG, ex US Rep.) but old, male, and uncharsimatic.

Collins had the novelty factor, the strike-a-blow-for-women factor. How could voting for a woman not be progressive?

She's now entrenched, voting for everything GOP except ANWAR drilling, and the wingnuts have learned to cope.

'Moderate' GOP women candidates are the biggest threat to the Democratic party in this country. If they can get past the primaries, they will do well in the general election at any level.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 03:17 PM
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22. I'm rethinking this
If we end up getting out of Iraq with ANY face saving at all, I think she'd have a chance at VP. But if Iraq goes the way it is headed (down the drain) it has her fingerprints all over it.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 09:25 PM
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29. It might work.
Edited on Tue Nov-29-05 09:38 PM by Davis_X_Machina
We got stuck with Senator Susie 'Creamcheese' Collins because Democratic women crossed over in droves to vote for her in 1996.

Her opponents were a Green Party candidate, and an admittedly been-around-forever, uncharismatic, but Democratic former governor, US Rep. and state AG, Joe Brennan.

Collins had no elective experience -- her jobs were all political: Cohen's press secretary, regional Small Business Admin head under Bush I, and so forth. Her platform was basically that Joe was old-fashioned, boring, yesterday's man, and that she was the future, because she was The Woman.

And as I said, Democratic women voted for her in droves.

Maybe I'm wrong, but "Vote for me, I have a uterus!" is a pretty slender basis for a career as a senator.

Of course she's voted the wrong way on everything, ever since, except for one carefully selected 'maverick' issue per term.

If GOP can get her nominated, they can win the general with her. Getting the nomination is the only obstacle. If she gets the nomination, she will win.

Construct one carefully selected 'maverick' position for Rice -- choice, perhaps -- and she will gain far more in crossover Dem. votes than she would ever lose from bigots and misogyists.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 09:31 PM
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30. Then add Cabal "News" shilling for her,
Katie and Matt and their ilk selling her to the soccer moms, Limpballs pitching her to the dittiots, hate radio doing their thing, and all of this "unelectable" bullshit files out the window.

As for her lying incessantly, that hasn't done anything to help sink Chimpy
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 09:39 PM
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31. I have always thought she was the Rovian choice...
and, therefore, a sure bet.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 09:40 PM
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32. I keep saying this...
The only reason the R's are pushing CONDI is because they want us to run HILLARY!! Anyone want to bet that their convention will be AFTER ours?? Which is a perfect set up, because they convince us to nominate Hillary,(which is exactly who they want us to run) as our answer to Condi...then they have their convention, and nominate JEB instead...and we ARE screwed...imo
windbreeze
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 10:26 PM
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35. The incumbent party always nominates last
And the nomination has always been determined by convention time for the last 30 years.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-30-05 12:54 PM
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38. That may be true....but
I'm sorry....I don't trust this bunch...I think they are capable of anything...and I put nothing past them...just because the status quo has been thus and so for the last 30 years...guarantees absolutely NOTHING will stay the same, from here on out...never under estimate your opponent...they have control of ALL branches of this gov't...WHAT AND WHO is going to stop them from doing things differently?
windbreeze
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:13 AM
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40. We are in true hell, we must have been bad in our last lives
to get this life.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:20 AM
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41. Remember how Rummy was soooo popular too......this could
be her downfall......Powell was popular too.....until the end when he disgraced himself. Give her time....they never fail to screw up.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-01-05 07:28 AM
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42. She's the only neocon stooge left
with any mainstream credibility intact.

The neocons need a new puppet/mouthpiece, if the '08 nom goes to a mainstream Republican then the neocons' grip on power is gone, so Condi will be pushed for all she's worth.

(Hopefully she'll go down with the rest of 'em).
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