David Sirota email describes possible Moveon actions against Lieberman.

[Talismom]

Just received this in my email. I've been wondering when
progressive activists will send a message to DLC/corporate whores
that only so much selling out will be tolerated before the grassroots
takes action. I'm very excited about this announcement!


http://www.workingforchange.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=E6ECF197-0B02-2F47-4A6E2A66158A0077
{http://www.workingforchange.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=E6ECF197-0B02-2F47-4A6E2A66158A0077}

Moveon Considers Backing Primary Against Lieberman

The Hartford Courant reports today on how Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT)
continues to self-servingly pursue an image of Bush administration
apologist on the Iraq War. For years, Lieberman has stabbed his party
in the back on high-profile issues - but now, finally, Lieberman may
have overreached, and might feel some consequences.

The Courtant specifically notes that Moveon.org now openly says it
will consider supporting a primary challenge to Lieberman:

" Matzzie, whose organization claims more than 50,000
Connecticut members, said Wednesday that if his members ask, his
group would back a Democratic challenger to Lieberman. Matzzie was in
New Haven last month, and found 'the No. 1 question people asked me
was, `What are we going to do about Joe Lieberman?''"

This is terrific news, as it shows the political infrastructure
outside the Democratic Party apparatus is getting comfortable using
both carrots AND sticks to pressure elected officials to take stands
on issues. This is the way the right has been so successful - by
rewarding their champions, and punishing those who undermine their
movement.

No doubt, elected Democrats will scream and whine about Moveon's
aggressive posture, as they have previously screamed and whined
anytime anyone points out the party's flaccid behavior on other
issues. But then, political movements don't exist to make politicians
happy - they exist to actually achieve substantive policy changes.
That's what Moveon is all about - and both Democrats and Republicans
should be on notice that their positions have political consequences.

Sources: Hartford Courant story:
http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-joebush1201.artdec01,0,6341089.story?coll=hc-headlines-politics
{http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-joebush1201.artdec01,0,6341089.story?coll=hc-headlines-politics}
Democrats scream and whine when citizens demand accountability:
http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/032305/podesta.html
{http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/032305/podesta.html}

[Critters2]

1. Yay!!

Move over, Joe!! We're looking for a REAL dem for that seat!!

:woohoo:

[OKthatsIT]

23. I'll second that emotion

[ChiciB1]

2. My Two Cents... Lieberman Has Lost A Few Marbles Or Something!

I've seen he's been more and more DLC/DLC-LITE, but his statements of late have me wondering if he doesn't really want to be a REPUKE!!


If he's not totally STUPID, he must KNOW that MOST Democrats don't agree with him!!! Gee, it must have been WONDERFUL to have your name mentioned by The Idiot 'Eh Joe?????

I KNOW I don't!!!

[Canuckistanian]

21. It must be some kind of weird "Zell Miller Syndrome"

If we see him showing up at a Republican National Convention, we'll know for sure.

But he's sure presenting his bona fides to the Republican leadership right now.

[bluestateguy]

3. Is there even a primary challenger yet?

It's getting a little late for a credible primary challenge to materialize here.

[acmavm]

4. I don't think that it would matter if it were the day before the election.

Joe has worn out his welcome and he's made himself a burden to the party. Just like Zell Miller did.

[leftchick]

5. yep!

Joe isn't welcome anymore. See ya Joe! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

[MurrayDelph]

9. (Why do people say that?)

I would just as soon have the door hit him HARD on the way out!
It might knock some sense into where he keeps his brains.

[onenote]

10. he seems pretty "welcome" to the voters in Connecticut

I love the categorical declarations that Joe could be beaten in a primary. As recently as July he was still getting a 67 percent approval rate in statewide polls, even though chimpy got a 59 percent disapproval rate at the same time.

A primary challenge to Lieberman is a waste of money ... money that could be put to far better use supporting a Democrat in a race to unseat a incumbent repub (or to fill a repub vacancy).

onenote

[ISUGRADIA]

16. None, the one college prof that was in dropped out as he had

raised only $2000.

[VegasWolf]

6. Too Funny - Don Imus Smacks down Joe Lieberman

<snip>

Imus: "You're the only person I talked to who thinks things are going well there..."

At one point Imus says:

Imus: "Somebodies got something on you, this is crazy."

<snip>

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/11/30.html#a6119

[against all enemies]

7. Some have said Lieberman supports Bush's war because of Israel. How

does the mess created in Iraq help Israel? It would seem that the increase in hatred of the US in the entire Middle East would only make things worse of Israel.

[Larkspur]

8. The Likkudites wanted Saddam removed from power because

Saddam sent like $25,000 to the families of any Palestinian sucide bomber. Don't know if Saddam every paid up.

Lieberman was supportive of the Likkuties.

What the Likkudites and Lieberman forgot was that Iran also wanted Saddam removed and Iran has much more influence with the Shiites than Israel does.

[onenote]

11. a waste of time and money

Joe Lieberman isn't going to lose to a primary challenger in Connecticut. Period. He's got favorable ratings in the high 60 percent range (even as Chimpy is down below 40 percent).

As I said earlier, for Moveon to spend any money on a primary challenge to Lieberman is a huge waste. That money can and should be put to far better use supporting a Democrat with an opportunity to unseat an incumbent republican (like DeWine) or to fill a seat being vacated by a repub vacancy (like Cunningham's seat).

If moveon persists in this, here's one person who won't be giving them any more $$.

onenote

[Talismom]

19. I disagree. A poll back in July isn't the holy grail. A groundswell of

support for a strong opposition candidate could unseat him--especially after his performance of late with falling support for the Iraq quagmire and his votes with repukes on many other issues. And it would be worth the effort even if it came close to defeating him. It would send a very much needed and powerful message to the other DLC asshats! Hey you corporate brown noses--clean up your act or we're coming after you!

[Guaranteed]

24. It would at least force Lieberman to start protecting his left flank.

These DLC assholes just keep stealing the pot. They need to be shown that their party will hold them accountable, they will lose face, and they might even lose their jobs.

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

12. I think it's going to be hard to beat

joementum in the primaries, but hopefully it will scare the crap out of him & get him to move to the left. At this point, if he'd just take one stinking, lousy step left I think I could be happy.

[mndfler]

13. Good.

Even if we don't beat him in the primary we can at least make him into a better Democrat if he worries about the primary.

[shantipriya]

14. LIE berman

Oppose the bastard with all our might and defeat the SOB next year

[Bandit]

15. Move On for President

We're mad and we aren't going to take it any more....

[MoonRiver]

17. Great news!

MYMYMYMY MYYYYY Sirota! :D

[bvar22]

18. I don't care if he can't be beaten.

A Primary challenge will force him to STAND UP and publicly defend his behavior to his constitutients.

[paineinthearse]

20. Allow me to give this its 5th

JOE MUST GO!

[David Zephyr]

22. Kick and Nominated.

Great news! Lieberman would lose in the primary and he's too vain to realize it...which is a good thing.

[cosmicdot]

25. His being on the Nixon Center's Board did it for me

along with Kissinger, et al
http://www.nixoncenter.org/boardac.htm

I remember TDS showing Joe skipping into the Senate chamber holding hands with Sen. Dodd ... how embarassing ... the 'debate' chit-chat with Cheney ... 12/12/2000 <crickets> licking 2004 chops began as Gore stood virtually alone ... Lynn Cheney and Joe's attacking freedom on college campuses] ... a Fox News favorite ... the kiss ... enron ... etc.etc.etc.


Photo courtesy of http://www.dumpjoe.com/


... getting our party back is essential in getting our country back ... it's time to loosen the corporate grip ... the corporate-funded DLC is undercutting people progress ...

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Joe voted for Reagan and Bu$h.

Big corporate investor, i.e., Pfizer and Tyco
http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2004/N00000616_2004.pdf


2006 CYCLE

Lieberman, Joe (D-CT)
2005-2006 PAC Contributions: $517,646
Based on data released by the FEC on Monday, October 31, 2005.

Agribusiness
$11,000

Crop Production & Basic Processing
$7,000

American Crystal Sugar
$2,000

American Sugar Cane League
$2,000

American Sugarbeet Growers Assn
$1,000

Michigan Sugar
$1,000

Minn-Dak Farmers Co-op
$1,000

Dairy
$1,000

Agri-Mark Inc
$1,000

Forestry & Forest Products
$3,000

Hardwood Federation
$3,000

Communic/Electronics
$34,000

Printing & Publishing
$6,000

Magazine Publishers of America
$3,000

Meredith Corp
$1,000

RR Donnelley & Sons
$2,000

TV/Movies/Music
$6,000

Comcast Corp
$1,000

National Assn of Broadcasters
$1,000

Sony Pictures Entertainment
$1,000

Time Warner
$3,000

Telephone Utilities
$3,000

BellSouth Corp
$2,000

SBC Communications
$1,000

Telecom Services & Equipment
$3,000

Level 3 Communications
$2,000

Qwest Communications
$1,000

Electronics Mfg & Services
$3,500

Emerson
$2,500

Infineon Technologies
$1,000

Computers/Internet
$12,500

Cisco Systems
$4,000

EDS Corp
$1,000

Hewlett-Packard
$4,000

Microsoft Corp
$1,000

SAP America
$1,500

Yahoo! Inc
$1,000

Construction
$4,000

General Contractors
$2,000

Associated General Contractors
$1,000

Washington Group International
$1,000

Construction Services
$1,000

CH2M Hill
$1,000

Building Materials & Equipment
$1,000

National Stone, Sand & Gravel Assn
$1,000

Defense
$44,500

Defense Aerospace
$14,500

BAE Systems North America
$3,500

Boeing Co
$3,000

Goodrich Corp
$1,000

Kaman Corp
$1,000

United Technologies
$6,000

Defense Electronics
$20,000

Advanced Acoustic Concepts
$2,000

American Systems Corp
$1,000

Anteon Corp
$1,000

Computer Sciences Corp
$1,000

Cubic Corp
$1,000

General Dynamics
$10,000

L-3 Communications Titan Corp
$1,000

Raytheon Co
$2,000

Science Applications International Corp
$1,000

Misc Defense
$10,000

Northrop Grumman
$9,000

SRA International
$1,000

Energy/Nat Resource
$8,000

Misc Energy
$2,000

FuelCell Energy
$2,000

Electric Utilities
$5,000

BWX Technologies
$1,000

Calpine Corp
$1,000

Cinergy Corp
$1,000

Dominion Resources
$1,000

NRG Energy
$1,000

Environmental Svcs/Equipment
$1,000

MWH Americas
$1,000

Finance/Insur/RealEst
$139,319

Commercial Banks
$3,000

Bank of America
$2,000

Mellon Financial Corp
$1,000

Savings & Loans
$500

BankUnited Financial
$500

Credit Unions
$1,000

Credit Union National Assn
$1,000

Finance/Credit Companies
$2,000

HSBC North America
$2,000

Securities & Investment
$40,000

Bond Market Assn
$2,500

Chicago Mercantile Exchange
$5,000

FMR Corp
$1,000

Lehman Brothers
$7,500

National Venture Capital Assn
$2,000

New York Mercantile Exchange
$10,000

OppenheimerFunds
$1,000

Phoenix Companies
$1,000

UBS Americas
$10,000

Insurance
$68,319

AFLAC Inc
$1,000

Allstate Insurance
$1,000

American Council of Life Insurers
$2,000

American Express
$5,000

American Insurance Assn
$1,000

American International Group
$7,000

Blue Cross & Blue Shield Assn
$2,000

Chubb Corp
$1,000

Cigna Corp
$3,000

Council of Insurance Agents & Brokers
$2,000

Fortis Inc
$2,500

Hartford Financial Services
$9,000

Independent Insurance Agents of America
$2,000

ING Americas
$1,000

Lincoln National Corp
$1,000

Metropolitan Life Insurance
$2,000

National Assn of Health Underwriters
$1,000

Natl Assn/Insurance & Financial Advisors
$4,000

New York Life Insurance
$1,000

Northwestern Mutual Life
$1,000

Principal Life Insurance
$1,000

Property/Casualty Insurers Assn/America
$2,000

Prudential Financial
$1,000

St Paul Travelers Companies
$7,819

United Services Automobile Assn Group
$2,000

WR Berkley Corp
$5,000

Real Estate
$21,000

American Resort Development Assn
$2,000

Assn for Commercial Real Estate
$2,000

Fannie Mae
$1,000

Mortgage Bankers Assn of America
$4,000

National Apartment Assn
$1,000

National Assn of Realtors
$3,000

National Multi Housing Council
$5,000

Natl Assn Real Estate Investment Trusts
$2,000

Real Estate Roundtable
$1,000

Accountants
$2,500

KPMG LLP
$1,000

PricewaterhouseCoopers
$1,500

Misc Finance
$1,000

Experian Corp
$1,000

Health
$66,000

Health Professionals
$2,500

American Assn of Nurse Anesthetists
$2,500

Hospitals/Nursing Homes
$12,000

American Health Care Assn
$9,000

American Hospital Assn
$1,000

Genesis Health Ventures
$1,000

Kindred Healthcare
$1,000

Health Services/HMOs
$14,000

Aetna Inc
$5,000

Health Net Inc
$3,000

Medco Health Solutions
$2,000

UnitedHealth Group
$2,000

Wellpoint Inc
$2,000

Pharmaceuticals/Health Products
$37,500

Abbott Laboratories
$2,500

Baxter Healthcare
$2,000

Bristol-Myers Squibb
$2,000

Caremark RX
$2,000

Eli Lilly & Co
$2,000

Genentech Inc
$5,000

GlaxoSmithKline
$2,500

Invitrogen Corp
$2,000

Johnson & Johnson
$2,000

Medtronic Inc
$2,000

Merck & Co
$1,000

Purdue Pharma
$10,000

Wyeth
$2,500

Lawyers & Lobbyists
$27,000

Lawyers/Law Firms
$23,000

Akin, Gump et al
$1,500

Arent, Fox et al
$1,000

Arnold & Porter
$1,000

Blank Rome LLP
$500

Dickstein, Shapiro & Morin
$2,500

DLA Piper Rudnick et al
$5,500

Foley & Lardner
$1,000

Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher
$500

Hogan & Hartson
$1,000

McGuire, Woods et al
$1,500

O'Neill & Assoc
$500

Preston, Gates et al
$1,000

Reed Smith LLP
$1,000

Robinson & Cole
$1,000

Stroock, Stroock & Lavan
$1,000

Ven-Pac
$1,000

Vorys, Sater et al
$500

Wolf, Block et al
$1,000

Lobbyists
$4,000

Burson-Marsteller
$1,000

Collier Shannon Scott
$1,000

Van Scoyoc Assoc
$1,000

Wexler & Walker Public Policy Assoc
$1,000

Transportation
$18,500

Air Transport
$4,500

United Parcel Service
$4,500

Automotive
$5,500

Dollar Thrifty Automotive Group
$1,000

Enterprise Rent-A-Car
$3,500

Johnson Controls
$1,000

Trucking
$5,500

American Trucking Assns
$4,500

Union Pacific Corp
$1,000

Railroads
$3,000

Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corp
$2,000

CSX Corp
$1,000

Misc Business
$38,621

Business Associations
$2,000

Natl Assn/Small Business Investment Cos
$1,000

US Chamber of Commerce
$1,000

Food & Beverage
$1,000

National Soft Drink Assn
$1,000

Beer, Wine & Liquor
$4,000

Bacardi USA
$1,000

Heineken USA
$1,000

Wine & Spirits Wholesalers of America
$2,000

Retail Sales
$2,000

International Council of Shopping Cntrs
$2,000

Misc Services
$500

Ceisler Jubelirer LLC
$500

Business Services
$2,000

Accenture
$1,000

Professional Services Council
$1,000

Recreation/Live Entertainment
$4,000

Major League Baseball Commissioner's Ofc
$4,000

Casinos/Gambling
$621

Mashantucket Pequot Tribe
$621

Lodging/Tourism
$6,000

Cendant Corp
$1,000

Sabre Inc
$5,000

Chemical & Related Manufacturing
$3,500

Air Products & Chemicals Inc
$0

Bayer Corp
$2,000

Mallinckrodt Inc
$1,500

Misc Manufacturing & Distributing
$13,000

Ensign-Bickford Industries
$500

National Machine Tool Builders Assn
$2,500

Pitney Bowes Inc
$5,000

Xerox Corp
$5,000

Labor
$44,000

Building Trade Unions
$16,000

Ironworkers Union
$2,500

Operating Engineers Union
$3,000

Painters & Allied Trades Union
$2,500

Sheet Metal Workers Union
$8,000

Industrial Unions
$1,000

United Mine Workers
$1,000

Transportation Unions
$7,000

National Air Traffic Controllers Assn
$5,000

National Assn of Air Traffic Specialists
$1,000

United Transportation Union
$1,000

Public Sector Unions
$16,000

American Federation of Govt Employees
$3,500

International Assn of Fire Fighters
$5,000

National Assn of Letter Carriers
$2,500

National Assn of Postmasters
$2,500

National Rural Letter Carriers Assn
$2,500

Misc Unions
$4,000

AFL-CIO
$1,000

UNITE HERE
$3,000

Ideology/Single-Issue
$79,206

Democratic/Liberal
$1,006

Jazz PAC
$1,000

New Democrat Network
$6

Leadership PACs
$21,700

CHRIS PAC
$10,000

HILLPAC
$5,000

Hope Fund
$4,200

Prairie PAC
$2,500

Foreign & Defense Policy
$5,000

US-Cuba Democracy PAC
$5,000

Pro-Israel
$35,000

Americans for Good Government
$2,000

California PAC
$1,000

Louisiana for American Security
$2,500

National PAC
$5,000

NorPAC
$6,000

Northern Californians for Good Govt
$5,000

To Protect Our Heritage PAC
$1,000

Washington PAC
$9,000

Women's Alliance for Israel
$3,500

Human Rights
$3,000

Human Rights Campaign
$3,000

Misc Issues
$2,500

Natl Cmte to Preserve Social Security
$2,500

Environment
$1,000

League of Conservation Voters
$1,000

Candidate Committees
$10,000

Abrams Cmte
$1,000

Cmte to Elect Gary Ackerman
$1,000

John Breaux Senate Cmte
$3,000

Solarz for Congress
$1,000

Tom Lantos for Congress Cmte
$4,000

Other
$1,000

Civil Servants/Public Officials
$1,000

Natl Star Route Mail Contractors Assn
$1,000

Unknown
$2,500

Unknown
$2,500

ADW PAC
$2,500

http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/memberprofile.asp?cid=N00000616&cycle=2006&expand=Y00

[W stands for Wacko]

26. Lead or get out of the way!

P.S. Unless the vote is protected, there is no chance for success.

[welshTerrier2]

27. if we can't get rid of Lieberman ...

we may have to sell Connecticut to another country for a player to be named later ... MoveOn is not my favorite organization but this i can support ...

[Talismom]

28. Love that Kennedy quote! Too bad so few of his colleagues have listened!n/t

[Norquist Nemesis]

29. MoveOn's openness is so refreshing!!!

When was the last time you saw a recognized GOP group waging a campaign against a candidate? At least MoveOn's upfront about it!

You won't see the slimy, fly-till-the-election PACs that the GOP props us then supports with stealth funds.