I think the 2008 ticket should be Wes Clark/Geoge Clooney.

[ncteechur]

Yes, I am absolutely serious.

No insiders. No politicians. Two complete outsiders.

Two progressive outsiders. With their own money.

And popularity. Who will speak the truth.

[Dhampir Kampf]

1. Ben Affleck?

He's a solid liberal, and knows his stuff.

[ncteechur]

2. I like Affleck but think Clooney is older and wiser and would come across

a bit better. Roguish charm.

[spooky3]

11. He's also more successful and respected in his career to date

Of course, being a bad actor didn't seem to hurt Reagan's or Schwartzeneggar's getting elected. But maybe it is an indication that if you aren't very good at one career, you may not be that good at a second.

[Neil Lisst]

3. check this out, then

[spooky3]

12. good one, Neil!

[Neil Lisst]

18. Clooney is about to be even more recognizable, after Oscars.

I hate to say it, but we're well past the point of who is most "qualified" to be president. Reagan and Bush II have proved you don't need to know shit from Shinola to be elected (?) president.

[spooky3]

25. yes. But I can't imagine why someone like GC would

want to run for office. He has plenty of power and money now, no one to answer to. He can bring about change from outside public office. So I would be surprised if he ever did run.

[Totally Committed]

46. ROTFLMAO....... Neil, you are so talented!

I love your stuff!

I needed that laugh,

TC

[henslee]

61. The cheapo plastic chairs on the front porch are classic.

[democrank]

4. Hope Clark runs.

He`d mop the floors with the Republicans.

[FrenchieCat]

5. Well if Clooney chooses not to run, he could maybe play

the Part of POTUS Wes Clark soon after his election! How bout that? :headbang:

[beaconess]

6. Clooney says only ticket he could run on is the "Yeah, I did that, too"

ticket. :-)

[Donna Zen]

7. Q factor

That would tough...figuring out who has the higher Q factor. But it would be a ticket to behold.

[hlthe2b]

8. Be still my heart!... Looks AND mega brains!

and good progressive values! :loveya:

[ncteechur]

10. Any skeletons Clooney has or had can be dealt with

after all, we have a president now who skipped out on his service, did coke, drank like a fish
was a failure in EVERY business opportunity he was involved.

Clooney is a saint next to the current occupant

[AZBlue]

9. Oh great! Then I'll be arrested for stalking both the Pres and the VP?

That's a dangerous ticket for me! B-)

[in_cog_ni_to]

13. LOL

:rofl: Whew...could you IMAGINE that ticket???!!! OMG. They would get the female vote, that's fer sure!:loveya:

[NYCGirl]

14. I think Clooney would rather be a filmmaker. NT

[jeannicot]

15. Tom Cruise!

Shoulda just merged with Scientology and get the whole cult thing over with.

[Tom Rinaldo]

16. Ok, that's clever

Ben Affleck actually was a Clark supporter last time, as was Madonna. One of them might be more likely to actually accept the role.

Tell you what. If Clark shows any interest in running with any of the actors mentioned, I promise to support a different candidate.

[jeannicot]

19. Ok, you just gained a lot of my respect.

As you can see around us, many of your fellow Clark supporters prefer to live in fantasy.

[windbreeze]

21. No, as a Clark supporter, I don't want to live in fantasy...but boy

oh boy...talk about good looking ticket, literally...lord have mercy, be still my beating heart...two of my most favorite men...call that a "dream team"....then take a jump back to reality...cause you know it ain't gonna happen..
Clooney isn't a slouch in the brains department..and he doesn't like what he sees going on in this country...but I also don't believe he wants to be on the front lines in that particular manner...methinks he prefers to do his politicking in other ways..
windbreeze

ps: but omg...for those who love fantasy, you couldn't beat a Clark/Clooney ticket...(then I think back on how many women I actually heard say, they voted for Clinton, because he was good looking)

[crispini]

17. Do you want me to use my brain AT ALL in 2008?

Or would you prefer I just spend my entire time watching the news with my mouth open going :wow: "duuuuuuuh."

Good Gad, can you imagine Wes Clark and George Clooney on TDS? Or interviewed by Olbermann?

[Clark2008]

45. Crispini, if KO interviewed Wes and George, can you

imagine the estrogen levels in the KOEB?

OFF THE CHARTS!!!

:hi:

[Totally Committed]

20. I saw Affleck on Bill Maher a couple of months ago...

He seemed to be a DLC middle-of-the-road-er who liked his guns and the sound of his own voice way too much, thank you.

George Clooney has very progressive politics, and so does John Cusack. And, both are very articulate when talking about their politics. I would prefer either of them over Affleck any day of the week. But truly... do you have any idea what the Republicans would do with a GENUINE "Hollywood" Liberal on our ticket? It would be U G L Y.

TC

[Clark2008]

23. Ben was a Clarkie, TC.

Did you forget that.

:hi: How ya doin', lady?

[Totally Committed]

35. Not so you'd have notice that night!

I found his "middle"-ism disturbing. He was such a petoot. Ugh.

John Cusack was a Clarkie during the primaries! I like his politics very much.

I'm good, and YOU are a newlywed! I'm so happy for you.

TC

[Clark2008]

36. A "patoot."

:rofl:

Haven't heard that in years. :)

P.S. And being a newlywed is so much fun! He is laughing about how silly this thread is, but agrees that there would be a ton of women vote for it for the shallow looks factor alone. :7

[Clark2008]

22. Well nearly every sane woman (and gay man) would

definately vote for that ticket!

Have mercy!!

[windbreeze]

24. OMG...did you HAVE to do that????

LOL...damn...my heart almost stopped...
wb

[Clark2008]

28. Imagine how much fun I had selecting the pictures from

the Google image search!

:loveya:

[Tom Rinaldo]

29. I can, Believe me, I can, lol. Don't take my comment below wrong, please

I like good looking women too.

[Tom Rinaldo]

27. Though I'm straight I see the appeal. But Please...

Don't even go there. I actually am embarrassed by even the joking suggestion that a sane person would base their vote on great looks. Enjoy them all you want, why not? But I would vote for Clark if he were a dwarf and vote against Bush even if he appeared as a youthful God or Goddess.

I know you feel the same, but there really are some people out there without the sense of humor to appreciate this.

[Clark2008]

30. But, you know there are sane people who are still kind of shallow.

And they would vote for that ticket on looks alone.

It's a sad state of affairs when that's the case, but it is.

And, of course, you know I'd vote for any ticket that featured Wes Clark because I adore his brain, but you can't deny the shallow appeal of that ticket. ;)

[Tom Rinaldo]

31. I know, it bugs me. It helped Aaarnold get elected. It sucks...

...and I don't want to play that game because there are too many pols out there ready to convert our elections into beauty contests if they think that will bring victories. The search goes out for good hair and a toothey smile. Screen tests replace platforms. God help us. I don't wanna play that, I don't wanna play that, I don't wanna play that, I don't wanna...

[Clark2008]

32. LOL!

I think this is more of a "fantasy" ticket kind of thread. Sometimes you gotta have fun.

:7

[Tom Rinaldo]

33. I know. I'm being playful too, but unfortunately we are both right! n/t

[windbreeze]

37. Good thing people have different tastes....

cause I think aanod is about as attractive as a mud fence..
but I do believe it is not only a known, but also a proven fact that being considered beautiful or handsome, does have it's rewards for the person lucky enough to be seen thusly...

I understand exactly what you are saying about the "screen test" thing, and how you don't want to go there...but I have had women tell me they voted for Clinton because of his looks only...I couldn't fathom voting for someone based on looks alone...but obviously there are those who could and do...

I have a young man (straight) staying here,(30yrs old) just out of curiosity, I called him in from outside, showed him the pictures(Clark/Clooney) that were posted, and asked what he thought about it as a presidential ticket...his response...now that looks like a winner to me..so there you go....just sayin, good looks, cannot be discounted...

I have been a Clark supporter since 2003...what brought me to him, wasn't his looks...it was an interview, on the TV, that I was listening to from another room....the man speaking was making so much sense, that I had to come into the room where the set was, to see who was talking...So see, Clark's intelligent manner of speaking drew me too him, originally, but to deny I thought he was also quite pleasing to look at, would be to lie...and I don't believe anyone could convince me that over the years, his good looks, haven't been a benefit for him...and perhaps sometimes have even been a hindrance..

As for the people out there who wouldn't understand this thread...geeze, I have to say, it's the first time I have laughed out loud about something, since Monday..take a chill pill maybe, relax...enjoy the thought, at least...cold reality will come back soon enough to haunt us all....I get a little weary of having to be serious as a heart attack all the time...
windbreeze

[Clark2008]

43. You know, I didn't even notice Clark was that striking

until I met him in person four days before he announced he was going to run.

I was enamoured with his brain, his foreign policy and diplomacy creds, his ability to speak easily about world events and his positions on the Iraqi war.

But, when I met the man in person, I was floored. I just hadn't thought of his looks at all.

[windbreeze]

62. Meeting him has

a strange affect on a person, doesn't it?? I flew to NH, to thank him for running...when I finally got close enough, and his attention...I totally forgot what I was going to say, even though I had been practicing my one little sentence for days....he has a way of focusing his full attention on you, and it threw me for a loop...
wb

[Jai4WKC08]

56. Too late

Elections already are beauty contests. Have been pretty much since TV became the primary news medium. And maybe platforms aren't screen tests, but their content gets focus-grouped. What's the difference?

Hell, sometimes I think one reason Dems don't win very often anymore is because we don't play that game enough. We just got lucky that Bill Clinton had both brains and looks. We'll never elect another Lincoln, that much is certain.

I'd vote for Clark if he were a dwarf, but 99% of America wouldn't. :(

[Tom Rinaldo]

57. Feh. I remember when I was young and radical. Now...

I'm old fashioned.

[Texas_Kat]

63. There's no sanity test to get a voter registration card.......

otherwise it would eliminate about half the republican base.

Clark/Clooney?

Whoa.... even the intelligent, serious and sober would have to stop and take a look-- strictly from a 'artistic' view you understand.:evilgrin:

BUT, some posts in this thread have already proven that some people are wound just a little too tight.

Is there a sanity test for that?

[spooky3]

26. Since people don't vote for unmarried candidates, I'll volunteer

to remove this disadvantage from Mr. Clooney!

:-)

[Adelante]

34. Clark/Feingold

Come on. Shouldn't we have a legislator presiding over the Senate? George Clooney wouldn't have time to push a legislative agenda, never mind know where the bodies are buried.

[Totally Committed]

48. And, Russ is a darned good-looking guy , too!

But, it would be a truly progressive ticket, AND as you so astutely said, who better to preside over the Seante and ppush legislation than a former Senator?

TC

[Clark2008]

50. I think so.

Hell, my husband looks like a younger Russ. :)

[McLuhan]

55. Yes, a ticket of two intellectuals.

I agree with the Clark/Feingold combination. Man,what a wonderful brain trust,eh. I presume Feingold is Jewish and Clark's mother or father was Jewish. Do you think that could present any problems with some voters?

[Adelante]

59. Now that's what I call a hot ticket - two intellectuals

No to your question. I don't think it matters to the kind of voter who would vote for Clark or Feingold in the first place.

[Dr Fate]

38. Jesus Christ- funny thing is, it REALLY would work. LOL! LOL! n/t

n/t

[Clark2008]

39. I think it would, which is sad

But I'm not sure if it's sad because there are so many shallow people who would vote for it on looks ALONE (never minding that Clark is brillant and Clooney's not short in the brains department, either) or sad because the Democrats would never support such an attractive, winning ticket. :rofl:

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

40. It would certainly be an attractive, appealing ticket. But way too

waspie (I guess Clooney is protestant) male.

Oprah is about as popular a female outsider as I can think of.

Too bad Jane Goodall is British.

:shrug:

[Totally Committed]

49. After seeing her show with Arnold and Maria while he was running...

I'm not all that sure Oprah is a Democrat. It was shameful.

TC

[Humor_In_Cuneiform]

54. I thought of a couple other people. Andy Young or Julian Bond. n/t

[ncteechur]

41. Clooney would get the youth vote.

The fact that he is single doesn't matter. He is the VP candidate. My wife said he wouldn't want to give up acting. I said he doesn't have to. Cheney has been VP and Darth Vader for the past years.

[Tom Rinaldo]

52. That's a good line! lol n/t

[AtomicKitten]

42. It sure would be one good-looking ticket! (nt)

[ncteechur]

44. Why would voting for Clark/Clooney be shallow?

Any more shallow than voting for Bush? or Perot? Perot had no govt. experience.
Bush can't walk and chew gum at the same time, can't speak, and apparently that line about "just like riding a bike" doesn't apply to him.

[Clark2008]

47. Well, voting for Bush *IS* shallow.

But, I think the argument here is that the ticket would be sooooo good-looking that it would be prone to rumors that all it has is looks.

I'm doubting many true political people would take it seriously, despite Clark's obvious credentials and Clooney's intelligence.

[Tom Rinaldo]

53. Right or wrong, last time around I took the position

that I would have prefered Kerry pick a VP candidate with more foreign policy experience than John Edwards then had. No matter how great Clooney looks or how smart he is, he doesn't have more experience than Edwards had. I'm a man of my word. Sorry George.

[Pithy Cherub]

51. The Serious Brain and Total Babe ticket!

The :wow: factor is off the charts with this one! :P

[threadkillaz]

58. Kaput/Zosky '08

[henslee]

60. Uh, If you are serious about George in office, perhaps running for another

office besides for president might be a better idea.

[redwitch]

64. eye candy vote all sewn up!

they is good lookin' dudes!

[Maine-ah]

65. LOL! That's exactly what I was thinkin'

With the female vote in their (pants) pocket..... ahh, if only Harrison Ford would jump in the race! Bestill my beating heart!:loveya: