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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:07 PM
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WTF...Time says Bush is taking "a principled stand" on the port issue?
Edited on Thu Feb-23-06 08:07 PM by Bush_Eats_Beef
How Much the Ports Storm Is Costing Bush

The President may be making a principled stand, but will it last?

By MIKE ALLEN/WASHINGTON

:wtf:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1162001,00.html?cnn=yes

Posted Wednesday, Feb. 22, 2006
In a big-time role reversal, it’s now George W. Bush who wants to transcend 9/11 and Democrats who want to relive it. The President’s political machine has capitalized for years on emotional appeals to Americans' fear of terrorism. But in the dispute over allowing an Arab-owned company to manage crucial American ports, Bush is confronting the Republican leadership of Congress with a very different kind of argument: a subtle, intellectual and yes, principled, case for consistency in barrier-free trading and allied opposition to al Qaeda. "We cannot ask Arab countries in the Middle East to embrace democracy and join the global economy and then unfairly discriminate against them," said talking points circulated to White House allies late Wednesday morning, a day after Bush threatened to use his first presidential veto against any legislation to overturn the deal.

The United Arab Emirates, home of the state-controlled company that has made the deal to manage sensitive U.S. port operations, has been very helpful to American intelligence services and its ports have been important to the U.S. military. Some supporters of the deal call the opposition xenophobic and shortsighted, and even some Democrats find themselves in the unusual position of admitting that Congress is overreacting and that Bush is actually in the right. But it has given Democrats their most inviting platform in years to bang the security drum, and most Republicans are refusing to cede the ground in this election year.

White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan acknowledged Wednesday that Bush did not know about the sale of the six major port operations to a Dubai company until after Administration approval had been granted. "This didn't arise to the presidential level," McClellan said. "You have all the security departments that are involved in this — the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Defense, the Department of State. You have the National Security Council that is part of this process, too. And there are representatives from each of those departments and agencies that participate in this process, some 12 departments and agencies that are involved." McClellan added, "If there have been concerns about national security threats, then there — I am sure that additional steps would have been taken."

Still, that is unlikely to quell the controversy. "It’s open season on the White House," said one Bush loyalist on Capitol Hill — speaking matter-of-factly, with neither glee nor regret. Republican congressional aides said they and their bosses were furious that the White House looked caught by surprise, with no press strategy and no immediate briefings for lawmakers who were being besieged by constituent calls. "They’re making it look like the Administration is asleep at the wheel on port security," said a top Republican leadership aide. "This is typical of their tin ear and unresponsiveness." On ABC’s "This Week with George Stephanopoulos," the Secretary for Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, looked as dumbstruck by the questions about the Dubai deal as he did in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

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oscarguy Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:21 PM
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1. I guess us infidels are supposed to trust our Nations Security to ....
a Nation ,self declared to the destruction of Israel. Oh yes you Christians are also infidels. I am a non-believer in any of this superstitious, institutionalized insanity. ...Oscar
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:25 PM
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2. Time Mag is and has always been a RW rag.
No surprise on their RW slant.
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oscarguy Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 09:13 PM
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16. Now I know, thank you. I am glad AOL could not get me a toll free...
conection, or I would be using, and paying money to these brown nosers, for thier internet service. ...Oscar
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:27 PM
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3. it that a real pic of bush?--or has it been photocropped?
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:38 PM
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6. It's real...
...I downloaded it from Yahoo News the other day and I haven't touched it.

Sickening, eh?
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 10:17 PM
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20. Are you kidding - he looks awful and incredibly nasty
His personality is really beginning to show on his face more every day.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:32 PM
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4. You know what everyone seems to have forgotten?
It's something that lawyers know, but that might explain why Bush ignores it. Whenever there is a conflicting interest between two constitutional rights, for example, an individual right versus the public interest, the public interest always prevails. It prevails because the government's interest is higher when it comes to protecting the safety and health of the people, than protecting one persons right to personal wealth.

Bush is slimy as a lawyer when it comes to jumping from one argument to the other, never really having a moral center; but he is never consistent. The application of the law must remain consistent where there is a public safety and health issue.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:33 PM
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5. Ex-squeeze-me?
Principled? Right, from a purely mercenary point of view. He is sacrificing national security interests for commercial interests. Period.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:39 PM
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7. Time Warner owns both The Times AND CNN....
Maybe they are trying to be objective?

More likely, the media is about to step away from this story.....

Who fucking knows anymore?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:42 PM
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8. why does the media always automatically pull out the turd polish?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 09:05 PM
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13. LOL, turd polish
:thumbsup:
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oscarguy Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 09:59 PM
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19. No wonder I quit watching TV. BNE : Brown Noser Express. ...
I couldn`t take it any more. It became so obvious they were all in league with BUSHCO. Whatever ...Oscar P.S. I am so disappointed with AIR AMERICA RADIO. I have yet to be able to find my way to actually get live broadcasts. They have clever ploys such as : Air America Radio Radio and such. Very sad ...Oscar
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:45 PM
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9. A Saudi prince is one of AOL/Time Warner's biggest investors
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oscarguy Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 09:02 PM
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12. Very interesting.Screw TIME WARNER.It is long past the time we retake...
our Nation and not allow these international Corps. any say in what our major NEWS ORGANIZATIONS FEED US. Thank you for the tip off that pisses me off. What the hell are our ARMED FORCES fighting for when the President and all his buddies can`t seem to wait to put our lives in the hands of a bunch of Islamic screwballs. ...Oscar
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oscarguy Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:48 PM
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10. Bushie loves me yes I know, for the Bible tells me so....
Anyone who buys into any of these arguments for this "DEAL" have heads so far up their asses it is unlikely they will ever be able to retract them without the aid of a well qualified surgical team. Anyone running across such a person should call 911 immediately. Double entendre intended. ...Oscar
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 08:50 PM
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11. About the writer of this article -
Here's what I found, that Mike Allen (the writer) covers the White House, and, as we've seen, nobody who doesn't kiss Bush Administration butt gets to talk to them again. Betcha he's kissed and is kissing an awful lot of butt.


http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/week_2005_08_07.php

(August 07, 2005 -- 06:01 PM EDT )
Drudge says Mike Allen of the Post has accepted a job covering the White House for Time.

If true, it's a huge loss for the Post. The daily political press is filled with more than a few time-servers and many more who have difficulty seeing beyond the narrow minutiae of what they're covering or the iron chains of conventional wisdom. But Allen is consistently good, day in and day out, in most all the ways I can think of to judge a political reporter.

I fear though that this isn't just a loss for the Post but also a loss for me and everyone else who counts on good political reporting. I know I'll hear from my friends at the news weeklies about this. But it's not clear to me that the sort of daily and detailed coverage of the big political stories of the day -- that he excels at -- can be duplicated in the very different, and sometimes sanded-down, big-picturish format of the weekly news magazine.
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oscarguy Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 09:08 PM
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14. I think his nose is getting rather brown from time spent between Pres. ..
presidential cheeks, and I am not refering to facial cheeks. ...Oscar
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oscarguy Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 09:32 PM
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18. I have learned from sources I cannot disclose that snorkel tubes have...
been issued to worthy brown nosers such as he and George Stephanoplis and Iron Pants BOB WOODWARD, Gerardo Rivera and all the rest. These have a Presidential seal embossed on them, things like that. Quite an honor don`t you know. They can breath through their mouths while still having their noses firmly planted between the Presidential cheeks. Its an amazing device. I may be wrong but I think it is Bob Woodward who owns the patent. After his book,"Bush at War" he got it. I may be wrong about this . What do I know? ...Oscar
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 09:13 PM
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15. Mike Allen became a kool-aiddrinkingkoolkid at the WaPost and that got him
his gig with TIME. btw... do you know that one of AOL's major shareholders is Kingdom Holdings?
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-23-06 09:20 PM
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17. They're right...they're just using the wrong spelling:
It should have been "a principalled stand". So what if it's not a real word? Colbert does it.

"In criminal law, the principal is the chief actor or perpetrator of a crime; those who aid, abet, counsel, command, or induce the commission of a crime may also be principals.

A principal in the first degree is the chief actor or perpetrator of a crime. A principal in the second degree must be present at the commission of the criminal act and aid, abet, or encourage the principal in his or her criminal activity."

http://www.answers.com/topic/principal?method=5&linktext=Principal
From: Thomson & Gale Legal Encyclopedia

The only question that remains is how guilty is he? First or second degree...or, more likely, both?

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