Why Dean is still the one

[BeFree]

Dean is the only one who has had the guts to say anything about 9/11.

9/11 is the elephant in the living room. It's Godzilla and King Kong.

Dean has pointed out this monster to the rest of the world and he deserves all the support we can give him for doing so.

[sangh0]

1. SO now, no one knew about 9/11 until Dean told them??

Now I've heard everything!

[displacedtexan]

2. Now everyone will rush out and vote for Dean!

Where did the Dean voters in Iowa and NH go?

[BeFree]

5. Where'd they go?

I'll tell you where.

They went back into their spider holes trying to escape Godzilla!

Dean is leading the way, at great risk mind you, to expose the gawd-awful truth. The media ain't doing it, the DLC ain't doing it, and I'll be durned if I see any of the others doing it.

Dean does it.

[sangh0]

6. SO now, no one knew about 9/11 until Dean told them??

Why don't you just answer the question?

[BeFree]

7. Everyone has an idea, yeah

But the only idea they have is the one that 19 cave men out-smarted and out-foxed the FBI, CIA and the B**** people. Come to think of it, I'm wrong. The people's idea is that the same rulers who allowed themselves to be duped, are the same bunch the people should trust to stop it again. No, wait, the people think that because the US has gone to war against the middle east, every little thing is gonna be alright.

Dean, otoh, is the one who introduced to the political stage the idea that what happened was a 9/11 MIHOP by the power grabbing crooks who rule America. There's your answer.

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[BeFree]

19. Read post #15 by GumboYaYa

He didn't have to say MIHOP. To educated individuals, however, that's what he was saying.

Saw him talk about it on TV. So, sorry, sanghO, no link. Yer just gonna have to take my word for it.

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[BeFree]

23. When I made the post #15 was not deleted...

...there is a difference between warnings and MIHOP, yes. But what I remember is that Dean really went out on a limb, and for that, I hold him in the highest regard.

[sangh0]

24. Changing your story, again?

First, it was "Dean was the 1st to make the MIHOP charge"

Then, it was "Dean was the first to say 'Bush* had warnings'"

Now, it's "Dean went out on a limb"

The truth is, Dean is a follower who had to wait until party regulars and DLCers like Bob Graham and Hillary Clinton showed him the way

[BeFree]

26. Yep, I'm not perfect...

...I thank you, sanghO, for your challenge. You've allowed me more time and space to get this message out, and a chance to refine it.

One must wonder, musn't one, did I ntend for it to be so murky?

Oh, BTW, the freedom to change my story is my right, right? Thanks.

Dean is still the one.

[sangh0]

28. You got a message out?

What was it? That Dean was a follower and didn't get around to saying that Bush* had warnings until just a few weeks ago, when other Dems accused Bush* more than a year ago?

[BeFree]

31. Cheers, sanghO...

...you don't give up, do you? Sure glad you're on our side, and not some puke.

[GumboYaYa]

27. Here you go be free:

(absent anything that could remotely be interpreted as a personal attack)

Some weeks ago Dean said in an interview that there are lots of questions surrounding 9/11 that should be the subject of an investigation and the White House needs to provide full information for the investigation to proceed. Dean then said one of the more interesting theories is that Bush was warned ahead of time of 9/11 by the Saudis. Maybe in two or three months when it becomes okay to say something like this, we will hear Kerry suggest the same thing. For now Kerry is content to blame Tenet for Iraq and to play ostrich with 9/11. That's solid leadership for America.

* * * * * *

Yes, some Dems like Hilary attempted to make hay with Bush Knew for a few days. It turned out to be a politically inconvenient position so it was swept under the rug never to be heard from again from the Dem power brokers.

Kudos, to Wes Clark for bringing this issue to the forefront as it should have been all along. Kudos to Govenor Dean for bringing more attention to the issue by implying that Bush may have LIHOP.

[sangh0]

29. Be honest

It wasn't just Hillary Clinton who pointed out that Bush* had warnings before 9/11. There's was also Bob Graham, John Kerry, Chuck Schumer, Jerold Nadler, etc

[GumboYaYa]

32. And they all disappeared after one day.

I said Hilary Clinton and other power brokers. I remember it well. One of many times I thought the Dems were growing backbones only to be disappointed.

Hilary started it by holding up the New York Post article. The furor lasted for about two days and then completely disappeared behind Bush's popularity ratings. That is not leadership in my book. It's more a case of holding your finger to the wind to see which way it is blowing.

[BeFree]

30. Thanks, GumboYaYa

Ya need to know, I went back in my cache and copied your post #15, but decided at the last second not to display it. I'm glad I did not, as you came through with it.
Thanks.

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[BeFree]

22. He, amongst the candidates now running..

...has taken the strongest stance, sanghO. Prove me wrong?

Now, ol' BeFree may have not been perfectly clear when he started this here thread, but he damn sure ain't lying!

[sangh0]

25. Kerry called or "regime change"

in addition to saying that Bush* was warned, and he did it when Dean was still complimenting Bush* over the fine job Bush* did in Afghanistan (letting OBL escape from Tora Bora)

Now, ol' BeFree may have not been perfectly clear when he started this here thread, but he damn sure ain't lying!

BeFree is skipping over reasons faster than Bush* explaining the Iraq invasion

[Indiana_Dem]

3. I agree and just decided I will vote Dean...

me & my family just decided a few days ago. It took me since July to make my decision so I don't make decisions lightly. He is the voice for the people who support him!!! He leads our movement!!

[AntiCoup2K4]

4. He's the voice of the people, period.

The DLC doesn't speak for the people, and Kerry's votes under the Bush regime make it clear that he doesn't either.

[Lugnut]

8. "The DLC doesn't speak for the people"

It seems to me that the "pink tutus" have been either discarded or ignored by some folks. I recall being ignored by my representatives.

[Vis Numar]

9. here here

he should say more about 9/11!

[BeFree]

10. Who else will?

Dean, as far as I know, is the only one. I guess if others here can't give us examples of others speaking out, we'll just have to take it as proof that we're right! And Dean is head and shoulders above the rest!

[evil_orange_cat]

11. the ship is going down for Dean...

people don't want to hear about 9-11... I like Dean, but he's going to fade away into history as another failed primary candidate.

[BeFree]

13. Dean is our only chance to get to the bottom of 9/11

And he will only fade away if we allow 9/11 to fade away.

Our only chance. Please, convince me that someone else will do as well as Dean on this issue and I'll consider them for my support.

[MAlibdem]

14. Clark spoke up

He said 9/11 was preventable and another attack was NOT inevitable.

That took guts, and was right.

[milkyway]

16. Give props to Clark , who has spoken strongly on 9-11.

He has vociferously demanded that Bush be help accountable for failing to protect America on 9-11. Most candidates don't have the nerve. But as far as I know, Dean is the only one to float the idea of LIHOP. Dean also had the guts to challenge Cheney on his role in influencing the CIA analysts on Iraq. I first heard him say that at the SC debate and on Tweety afterward. On Meet The Press on Sunday, he again said that Cheney berated CIA analysts, intimidating them to give the answers he wanted to hear. I know Dean has become a polarizing figure here at DU, but he's not afraid to stick his neck out and be labeled a nut by the media.

[bicentennial_baby]

17. Um no, you're incorrect

Wesley Clark has also spoken quite forcefully on the issue of 9/11.

[Indiana_Dem]

20. Both Dean & Clark have been vocal about 9/11

That's why Clark is my second choice! I've heard both of them say blantant no-beating-around-the-bush comments.

[BeFree]

33. That's good to know

Thanks hollyrollerdem....

And thanks to those who pointed out how Clark has also brought up 9/11.

Ya learn something new everyday, eh?