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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 04:02 PM
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John McCain preaches "RESPECT" at Liberty University...


Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), looking to heal a rift with the religious conservatives who undermined his 2000 White House bid, told students graduating at the Rev. Jerry Falwell's university Saturday that Americans have a right to disagree on issues but should maintain respect for each other.

Isn't that special? I'm sure he was speaking to and about people like these...













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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 04:04 PM
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1. Who the fuck does he think he is??? ARETHA?????
Edited on Sat May-13-06 04:06 PM by MADem
You ain't no Aretha, Huggy Bear, and you never will be!!!!!!!!

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 06:02 PM
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5. Hahahahahaha .......
..... in his case, I'd be more inclined to say "Urethra" ...... but that's just me .... and I'm sick. :)
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:19 AM
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14. Ahhhh, a South Carolina 2000 flashback...
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 04:24 PM
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2. Not all Christians are like that.
Edited on Sat May-13-06 04:26 PM by madfloridian
I was accused yesterday of making excuses for our politicians talking to the Christian groups.

I was told to lock the post by someone who thinks I was posting about Dean again. I was actually realizing and posting about McCain as well. I was trying to understand something, and it appears to be unacceptable here. I got it locked by my request. But I made my point.

Making fun post after post here without making clear that a lot of us were raised in very religious homes, felt secure in them....it is just wrong. I am tired of seeing broad groups of people painted that way.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/103


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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 04:26 PM
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3. The point is the level of "respect" REPUBLICANS demonstrate...
Falwell is an example of such a Republican. I don't see him as an example of a Christian, except that he calls himself one. No intent here to put down Christians. :hi:
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 04:33 PM
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4. "John McCain, Hypocrite"
John McCain, Hypocrite
by Doug Ireland

John McCain, the media's darling, has found a clever way around his own campaign finance reform law to take big corporate bucks in furtherance of his political ambitions while carrying water for the corporate mammoth providing the dough. But the national press is ignoring the story.


The Associated Press first ran the story of John McCain's odorous but lucrative Senatorial service to the communications giant Cablevision on the afternoon of March 7. But, while some local papers in McCain's home state (like the East Valley Tribune) have run the story, nothing has as yet made it into the print editions of the New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, or any of the half-dozen other big city dailies I checked (although, if one searches the hundreds of AP stories available on the Post's website on its Politics page by clicking on "Latest Wire Reports," one can find it there--but how many readers would bother to do that?) One notable exception: the Kansas City Star.


Here's what the AP's investigation found:


McCain repeatedly intervened on behalf of a policy Cablevision favored -- one which "congressional and private studies conclude could make cable more expensive" -- while his chief political adviser, Rick Davis (who's masterminding McCain's probable '08 presidential rerun) solicited $200,000 in contributions from Cablevision to an institute that promotes McCain and pays Davis a $110,000 annual salary.


The Reform Institute was set up to promote McCain and his issues--especially campaign finance reform, embodied in the famous McCain-Feingold law. This Institute is "a tax-exempt group that touts McCain's views and has showcased him at events since his unsuccessful 2000 presidential campaign," and it "often uses the senator's name in press releases and fund-raising letters and includes him at press conferences," the AP says. And, of course, it provides a cushy sinecure with no heavy lifting for McCain's main man, Davis, as he prepares the pontificating Senator's next presidential run. Cablevision's contributions account for a whopping 15% of the Institute's budget.


http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0309-35.htm
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 06:54 PM
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6. This really isn't about your parents, family, or neighbors.
Did your parents call gays evil?

Do your neighbors tell you that liberals are the cause of the 9/11 attack?

Does your family sit around talking about how Democrats have ruined this country?

If they did, then yes, they can be lumped in with the name calling and anger being directed at the "fundies" who have said and believed those things and more. Please understand that it's very hard to ask DUers who have been discriminated against, maligned, and disrespected by these people for years to respect those who have worked so hard against them. If you try to take away my rights I will fight you, just as you would me.

I know what you're saying and I respect your feelings. I respect anyone who respects those around him. I do not respect those who use minorities to further their own ends or slander them to make themselves feel better about themselves. Respect is a two way street and none of us, including yourself have been respected by many of the people who call themselves "fundamentalists". While I agree with you that not all show this disrespect, many do, and that is who DUers are railing against.

My guess is that your parents, family, and neighbors do not say the things I've listed above or you would not be so protective of them. I wish more people could learn to respect those with whom they disagree.

Maybe it would help if you thought of the rants against "fundie" here as meaning specifically those who have slandered minorities and liberals. I think that would be closer to the true spirit of it all anyway.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:48 PM
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8. Are you suggesting this smug, fat, hateful bastard
....is a CHRISTIAN???



Simply because he SAYS SO???

Explain to my poor mind how this slothful, insulting, hateful pig follows the teachings of Christ.

Most people here, Christian, Mosalman, Jew, Bhuddist, Wiccan, Atheist, you name it, have no problem with people who actually FOLLOW the teachings of Christ.

It's the Faux followers, the Cafeteria Christians, who pick from the buffet of hate and intolerance, that most have difficulty comprehending.

WWJD...What WOULD Jesus do? I imagine he'd toss the asshole pictured above out of the temple, for starters.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 10:53 PM
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9. I guess it has been decided that he isn't.
I don't think I said that. I don't think I suggested that. I prefer to let someone else, perhaps God, judge that. I have been judged so much this week, I will just hold off on doing it to others.
Do I like him, no. I never said I did. I never said I approved. God will judge him.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 11:04 PM
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10. Look, I have no clue who's been beating up on you, but my way of
judging people is by their ACTIONS. Do they live a good life? Do they help the helpless? Are they KIND? Do they care for the weak, the sick, the aged, the young, the least of our brethren?

I don't need to WAIT for God to tell me, or to write in his little book for all to see, that this guy is an asshole. God, or whomever/whatever, gave me a brain...and I use it.

I have determined by carefully examining this smug jerk's words and deeds that he is nothing short of an unmitigated shitheel, a cruel, miserable bastard, whose attitude is "My way, or the highway."

If he what passes as a Christian, Christ must be seriously perturbed.
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 03:59 AM
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11. Oh please
I am sick to death of hearing criticism of people who pander to the likes of Robertson and Falwell equated to criticism of reaching out to Christians. Robertson and Falwell sound just like Ann Coulter and the fact they hide behind Jesus to make their pronouncments make them worse, not better. There are many ways to reach out to Christians that don't involve these two. Let both McCain and Dean find some of them.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:04 PM
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7. Oh, no...not Miss Piggy with the dirty dentures again...
that picture always ruins my dinner.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 07:21 AM
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12. He just doesn't get it ...
That is the WRONG mentality if he wants to swing the religious zeolots his way ... That just is not where they are at ... They want control, they want hate and anger ... They want to demonize people ...

This is where he has a real problem ... I believe that he really believes in this line of thinking ... But, he is trying to have the devil as his running partner, and the devil doesn't want anything to do with togetherness, civility and reason ...

I keep telling my repuke friends this, and they don't get it ... Him and Hillary are the same cats ... That ain't a knock on Hill, cause I do like her ... But, both are trying to work both sides at the same time, and while it garners some middle of the road voters, it drives out the poles on either side ...
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lwcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-14-06 09:08 AM
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13. It's the latest craze...
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