Even our "so called Liberal Media" Meme's that Iraq did "9/11!"

[KoKo]

As they repeat the lie...over and over and over...what chance do we out here in the "Fever Swamps" have a chance of "re-directing the dialog?"

How can we ever hope to SLAY the M$M DRAGON when they keep their emphasis on Iraq and Iran as the "EVIL EMPIRE" who sent "19 HI-JACKERS" to DESTROY "TWIN TOWERS" (financial center/symbol of US Capitalism) and "PENTAGON/WHITE HOUSE" the seat of the Enlightenment of the of the 15th and early 16th CENTURY that gave us our American Constitution, which goes back to MAGNA CHARTA...through back to ROME AnD GREECE?

These PNAC/NEO-CON "THINK TANKS" are truly the REAL REVOLUTION! Give them some weed and IV Drugs and folks would know that they are totally "Duded Out!" :shrug:

[JuniperLea]

1. "In my line of work...

See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda. - GWB


http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:drGu3_QDX94J:www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/05/20050524-3.html+catapult+the+propaganda&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1


The best part about this quote is that you can find it on the White House website... oh, brother...



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[zbdent]

2. Average Bush True Believer as Picard

"Whoops, you're right. There are five lights. Sorry, must have missed that one."

[KoKo]

3. I took the "liberty" of posting the "IDIOT's" Question and Answer and

here it is... since it's available at US WH.Gov...I felt free to post his "BLATHERINGS" since you brought it up. :D and a :puke: for his dialog:

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THE PRESIDENT: You are Audrey Ceglinski.

MRS. CEGLINSKI: That's right. I'm a 70-year-old widow.

THE PRESIDENT: Don't ever say your age. (Laughter.)

MRS. CEGLINSKI: Oh, that's -- I have no problem. Don't ask me my weight, though.

THE PRESIDENT: Okay. (Laughter and applause.) Reminds me of my mother. (Laughter.)

MRS. CEGLINSKI: That's good. I was a teacher's aide for Williamsville South High School for 25 years, and I retired from there -- a very enjoyable job. I also wanted to mention I'm a volunteer for Meals on Wheels.

THE PRESIDENT: Oh, fantastic.

MRS. CEGLINSKI: Which I'm missing today. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: I hope somebody filled in --

MRS. CEGLINSKI: Oh, yes. We've got some great people there. It's a good group.

THE PRESIDENT: Thanks for doing that.

MRS. CEGLINSKI: I like it a lot. My husband and I retired eight years ago. Unfortunately, he passed on after only two years, so the money he had invested in Social Security in a sense was gone. Had we had a personal account, I would have had some money for Deborah, Jeremy, his brothers, to pass on.

THE PRESIDENT: Let me stop you there, if you don't mind.

MRS. CEGLINSKI: That's fine. (Laughter.) You have my permission.

THE PRESIDENT: Here's the way the system works. Two folks work, they both contribute to the Social Security system; if one dies early, the spouse, the remaining spouse gets to choose her benefits or his benefits, which are ever greater, but not both. Think about that system. Dad went and contributed a lot into the system. He passed away. But the money he put in -- most of the money he put in is gone. That's not fair. What kind of system is that? It's not a fair system. It's not fair to the family. It's not fair to the person who has worked all his life, in this case. Had he been able to put money aside in a personal account, that account would have gone to Audrey.

Isn't that right? Keep going. You're on a roll.

MRS. CEGLINSKI: Okay. (Laughter.) I have five children, seven grandchildren, and that's my concern. I think you, making the young people aware that there's a problem, is going to make them aware and encourage them to save. And I think that's what we need to do.

THE PRESIDENT: Well, I appreciate that. Younger people need to pay attention to this issue. See, if nothing gets done in Congress, as Congressman Penny pointed out, you're going to get to pay higher payroll taxes -- and higher and higher and higher payroll taxes. And so you need to pay attention. Actually, I believe younger people are beginning to pay closer attention to this issue. We're beginning to get their attention.

First thing is, is there any doubt in your mind that you're going to get your check?

MRS. CEGLINSKI: I'm getting my check, and it's wonderful.

THE PRESIDENT: They're still coming.

MRS. CEGLINSKI: It's still coming. And I'm planning on it for a while yet. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: Well, you need to, yes. Heading toward 80.

MRS. CEGLINSKI: That's right.

THE PRESIDENT: Right around the corner. You look great.

MRS. CEGLINSKI: Thank you very much.

THE PRESIDENT: You look like 100 to me. That's where you're going to be. Thirty more years?

MRS. CEGLINSKI: I'll remind you of that. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: All right, good. And she's going to want her check. On her 99th birthday, she's going to want her check. And you're going to get your check. Okay, and so who did you bring with you?

MRS. CEGLINSKI: I brought my daughter, Deborah, the oldest of my five.

THE PRESIDENT: Debbie or Deborah?

MRS. CEGLINSKI: Debbie. We like to call her Debbie.

THE PRESIDENT: You called her Deborah.

MRS. CEGLINSKI: Yes.

THE PRESIDENT: Okay. (Laughter.)

MRS. CEGLINSKI: Only when she's in trouble. And Jeremy, her youngest son.

THE PRESIDENT: Fantastic. Debbie, welcome.

MRS. BROWN: Thank you.

THE PRESIDENT: Thanks for coming. Mom did a good job, didn't she?

MRS. BROWN: Yes, she did.

THE PRESIDENT: So what was it like growing up? Was Mom pretty tough, a disciplinarian?

MRS. BROWN: Yes, she was. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: Well, then you and I share the same thing. (Laughter.)

MRS. BROWN: Yes, we do.

THE PRESIDENT: Tell me what's on your mind.

MRS. BROWN: Well, I appreciate the opportunity to be here. I was an at-home mom. I was privileged that my husband, who is here today, was willing to let me stay home and raise the kids, work part-time. But when you do that, you don't get to pay into a retirement system anywhere. So I went, got my masters degree. I have a job I'm very happy with now. But I will never be able to build a good retirement in the amount of time I have until I retire. So it's very appealing, the plans that you're talking about, because I'll be quite dependent on Social Security.

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, set aside a little money, watch it grow at a better rate than the current Social Security system.

MRS. BROWN: Exactly, so that -- certainly, for Jeremy and for my other three sons, as you said, it would make me happy to know that they're taken care of, too, and that they would have options.

THE PRESIDENT: Right. And how is old Jeremy doing?

MR. BROWN: I'm doing good. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: Tell them where you were born.

MR. BROWN: Tomball, Texas. (Laughter and applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: Tomball, Texas, right outside of Houston.

MR. BROWN: Yes.

THE PRESIDENT: So you've got grandmom here, you've got mom here.

MR. BROWN: I've got the brother out in the audience

-- one of the three is out in the audience, the other grandparents.

THE PRESIDENT: Good. First of all, what are you doing with yourself these days?

MR. BROWN: Well, I'm 18; I'm a sophomore at Canisius College, in Buffalo. (Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: What's your major?

MR. BROWN: I'm dual-majoring in business marketing and business management.

THE PRESIDENT: Great. All A's?

MR. BROWN: Hopefully. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: Well, don't worry about it. That won't disqualify you from being President. (Applause.)

All right, Jeremy, get going, will you?

MR. BROWN: Well, being the younger generation, I'm just starting to pay into the system. I like the idea of having these personal accounts, getting a better rate of return in the end, and compound interest and everything so I build up something for myself that I could leave for my future kids and everything. And I like the fact that I'll have something to show for it, because people go and pay decades and decades into Social Security and when it comes time for me to retire, if we don't change, I'll have nothing to show for it.

THE PRESIDENT: You know what's interesting -- I say this a lot when I travel around the country -- is that a lot of young people think it's more likely they'll see a UFO than a Social Security check. (Laughter.) What do you think, Jeremy?

MR. BROWN: I don't know. I'd rather see Social Security change. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: I didn't ask your preference. (Laughter.) But there's a lot of young people who, when they listen to the debate and understand the demographic shift that's going on, don't think they're going to see anything. What kind of system is that where you got a young guy getting ready to graduate from college paying into a -- paying a payroll tax, a hefty payroll tax into a system where he doesn't think he's going to see any benefits from it. It's a system that sounds like to me is screaming for reform, so that somebody who contributes into the system not only knows they're taking care of a baby boomer generation, or doing their part for their retirement, but also will have something left over for his family in this case.

What do you want to do when you get out of college?

MR. BROWN: Go into real estate.

THE PRESIDENT: Real estate, yes, good. Sounds like to me you can understand finances pretty well, too, that money can grow over time.

MR. BROWN: Yes.

THE PRESIDENT: Anybody -- any other 18-year-olders that you know worried about this issue, thinking about the issue?

MR. BROWN: They are now. I got them informed.

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, you do? That's good. (Laughter.) Good job. It's important for people Jeremy's age to start listening to this discussion. As Tim said, the longer we wait, the more difficult it's going to be for an up and coming generation.

This is a generational issue, folks. See, the grandmoms and grandads around America now understand they're going to get their check, and so once that comfort level has been provided, the next logical question from many of the grandmothers I've talked to is, what you going to do about my grandson? You've said there's a problem, Mr. President, I expect you and the United States Congress to make sure that my grandson has got a viable retirement system. That's what a lot of people are beginning to say around America.

And that's why I can predict that once we get through on this issue, once I finish traveling the country -- and I got a lot more to do -- people are going to start demanding from their representatives and their senators a solution. They don't want any Washington double-talk. What they want is a solution, so a grandmother can then look at her son, her grandson, Jeremy, and say, thankfully, people in Washington did their duty, and I can rest easy knowing I'm going to get my check and Jeremy is going to get his, as well. That's the issue. (Applause.)

Good job. You were great.

You two look alike. These are the Weitzel girls -- McKenna and Riley, isn't that right? Okay. Which one is Riley? That makes you McKenna.

MS. McKENNA WEITZEL: That's true. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: They're twins. I'm the father of twins. I am a white-haired father of twins. (Laughter.)

MS. RILEY WEITZEL: They can do that to you.

THE PRESIDENT: Did you do the same thing?

MS. RILEY WEITZEL: Yes.

THE PRESIDENT: Tell me what you all do.

MS. RILEY WEITZEL: Well, I'm a history teacher at Bread of Life Christian Academy here in Rochester.

THE PRESIDENT: Fabulous. Thanks for teaching.

MS. RILEY WEITZEL: I teach history to the fourth through seventh grades there. Hi, guys, I love you and I miss you. Be good.

THE PRESIDENT: Taking advantage of C-SPAN. (Laughter and applause.)

MS. RILEY WEITZEL: And I am getting married in the summer, in August. And my fianc and I are just starting to think about retirement and about future generations and, hopefully, if God blesses us with kids, our kids, and something we can pass on down to them. We're really excited about your plan, and that we can set up personal accounts and then watch compound interest grow, and hopefully get a nest egg and be able to hand that down to our kids.

THE PRESIDENT: Fantastic. I don't remember thinking about compound interest growing when I was 23. There wasn't a lot of discussion about that type of issue. There's a change, there's a cultural change in America when it comes to investment. Because a lot of people are now getting used to the concept of watching their own money grow, isn't that right.

So is fianc here?

MS. RILEY WEITZEL: Yes, he's right over there -- Ben.

THE PRESIDENT: Ben. Look at him, fine-looking lad.

MS. RILEY WEITZEL: Thanks. I think so, too. (Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: August is the wedding?

MS. RILEY WEITZEL: August 6th. You're invited. (Laughter and applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: That's a smart move. (Laughter.) She knows I won't come, but I will send a gift. (Laughter and applause.) McKenna going to be in the wedding?

MS. RILEY WEITZEL: McKenna is my maid of honor, of course.

THE PRESIDENT: Cool. McKenna, what do you do?

MS. McKENNA WEITZEL: I'm a hairdresser at the Scott Miller Salon in Pittsford, New York.

THE PRESIDENT: Great, good.

MS. McKENNA WEITZEL: It's a wonderful place to work.

THE PRESIDENT: A lot of talk about Social Security?

MS. McKENNA WEITZEL: Not a whole lot there, but, honestly, I've been thinking about it.

THE PRESIDENT: Have you? Good.

MS. McKENNA WEITZEL: Yes, definitely. I feel like there's definitely a problem in the system right now and things need to change. And I want to say that it's completely commendable of you to stand up and tackle this issue.

THE PRESIDENT: Oh, thanks. Thank you. That's my job. (Laughter.) I appreciate you saying that. There's a lot of others in Washington feel the same way I feel, that there's -- they say, are you taking a risk? How can you be taking a risk when you're doing what the people expect, solving problems. I think the people who take the risk are those who won't come to the table to discuss the issue in a way that will help solve the problem. (Applause.)

So are you in agreement with Riley on personal accounts?

MS. McKENNA WEITZEL: I certainly do. I feel like being able to take more ownership over your future and over your investments is very wise.

THE PRESIDENT: Yes. Don't you like the idea -- some of you have got 401(k)s and you open up your statement on a quarterly basis -- it seems like to me that would be a healthy thing for our country if more and more people are opening a statement that says, this is what your worth, this is how your worth has grown. It's a -- to me, it's a notion of getting people to understand that they've got to pay attention to the future of the country, when you, on a monthly basis, in some cases on a daily basis, if you want to get on the Internet and look at your -- look at your asset base. Now, you're contributing in to the -- both of you -- payroll tax, aren't you?

MS. McKENNA WEITZEL: Yes, we both currently are.

THE PRESIDENT: Pretty good-size chunk.

MS. RILEY WEITZEL: No, not really.

THE PRESIDENT: No, a pretty good-size chunk of your payroll tax.

MS. RILEY WEITZEL: Oh, of course.

MS. McKENNA WEITZEL: Yes, yes.

THE PRESIDENT: I think the interesting thing is that when you first talk to people entering into the workplace their reaction when they first get their checks, what -- their reaction to what it's like to not have quite as much money as you expected. That happen to you?

MS. McKENNA WEITZEL: Yes, that was a shocker. (Laughter.)

THE PRESIDENT: Yes, in other words, government tends to take out a pretty good chunk. And it seems like to me that a significant chunk that is being taken out ought to at least be able to say to young kids, there's a reason why, it's worthwhile for the money to go out, because it will help me in my retirement age. That's kind of what we're talking about, isn't it?

Okay, now that you've got your kids watching, anything else you want to say?

MS. RILEY WEITZEL: Just, be good today.

THE PRESIDENT: How about you -- how about you, McKenna? McKenna, you got anything else you need to say?

MS. McKENNA WEITZEL: Well, I just also want to state that I feel like it's just encouraging to know that we could collect money in the end, that we aren't hoping that there will be money there, that it truly will be -- and also just the responsibility of knowing that you're setting aside money, and that you will be getting it.

THE PRESIDENT: See, it's a little lack of trust right now it sounds like to me -- don't quite trust the government to have a Social Security system available for my -- for the money I put in. This is a matter of trust. This is a big issue.

I want to thank our panelists for coming to discuss this issue. (Applause.) Very good job.

Washington has a duty to earn the trust of the people by making wise decisions about how the people's money will be used. We have a chance -- both Republicans and Democrats have a chance to come together and to solve the Social Security issue forever. And when we do -- and I believe we will, because the people's voices are going to resonate on this issue -- and when we do, all of us who are fortunate enough to serve this country can look back and say, we did our duty for generations to come.

Listen, thank you all for coming. May God bless you all, and may God continue to bless our country. (Applause.)

END 11:40 A.M. EDT

MUCH MORE BLATHER OF BUSH AT:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/05/20050524-3.html