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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:03 AM
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"Roll Call's" Tim Curran says Republican's "72 Hour Plan" could kick in
Edited on Tue Oct-24-06 09:11 AM by KoKo01
and defy the polls that show Dems sweeping in the Mid-terms. He said polls showed Kerry leading in 2004, but the "72 hour plan" in Ohio kicked in and threw the election to Bush. Curran said the "Plan" had also been tested in California and the Rhode Island Governors race and proved to be successful.

It was odd the way he said it, since C-Span's WJ had several callers this morning talking about Diebold stealing the vote. It almost seemed like the "72 hour plan" could mean a little more than "last minute get out the vote."

Curran also mention Gore 2000 as a last minute surprise because Gore was leading in the polls. :shrug:

Anyone else see it...?

Since Curran has always seemed Repug leaning to me...I thought he'd been given the job to put out the first Talking Point for the "set up."
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:06 AM
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1. Here is the 72 hour plan:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:10 AM
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4. Yep....that was my feeling. When Diebold & other DRE's steal the vote
the Media can now say the Repugs "72 Hour Plan" was sucessful once again!

Since Curran has always seemed Repug leaning to me...I thought he'd been given the job to put out the first Talking Point for the "set up." (actually I should add that to my OP)
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:20 AM
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9. That's it in a nutshell
I told my husband last week: "you watch how the polls will tighten up soon and be "neck and neck".

It's the same shit,different election. They will "tighten" up these races so the repukes can steal them so it won't look suspicious. Repukes are so predictable it's not even funny. I will be shocked if we end up the winner,but when we suffer massive losses..... NO ONE will do anything about it.:argh:
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:10 AM
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2. there will be no 72 hour plan this year
It is canceled. The fearmongering and the gay bashing are not the issues this year. This year it is about Iraq and republican incompetence and corruption. Even a 168 hour plan can't save them this year. The people will go to the polls and fire them...
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:37 AM
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10. Well, there'll be the 72 hour plan but it won't work.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:10 AM
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3. Y'know, in my darker moments I often wonder if they might not have
a whole new product, something we haven't seen before & don't even suspect, ready for November. The problem with being in a defensive position is that you're always defending against the old and known threats, and the new thing always hits you by surprise.

Even if a few people see the new thing coming (as was the case with BBV in 2004), you can't get enough others to take you seriously & prevent it.

I keep trying to imagine, if I wanted to steal an election in a totally new and unanticipated way, how would I do it?

So far I've come up dry.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:23 AM
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6. Here in my state they've "tinkered with" voter registration, now requiring
your married name to match your SS registration and your address. (Newly marrieds and those who have just moved might not have had time to change their registrations and think they are okay with old registration. It's their way of moving to Voter I.D. before 08.

They've also put in far fewer voting machines than the population increases in my state would require. There was a fight with state voter officials (independently appointed but with ties to Repug) to get more machines but we were told "Primary" turnout is always low..so we don't need to order more machines until '08." At least our state has VVPB which was gotten through by activists but....the way they can steal it is not enough machines and changing the voting registration verification since '04 which would disenfranchise many thousands.

The positive thing is that it seems the Media is finally talking about the Machine problems and Registration problems. So, hopefully we won't be ignored so easily this time when so much more is known.

Have to have hope...and turn out so high that we aren't ignored no matter what the Repugs have lurking.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:10 AM
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5. Yeah as if * won either election. This "72 hour plan" is their excuse to cover up
the election theft. Does anyone really think that this time they are going to play fair with so much at stake? They lied to get us into a war so a little election theft is nothing to these thugs.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 09:45 AM
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7. So that is how they are going to explain a stolen election this time.
As well as covering their tracks for the last 3 elections
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:09 AM
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8. They won't have to explain it because the
corporate media will not cover it, just like 2004. If it's not covered, it didn't happen. Any discussion of it will be labeled "internet conspiracy theories," as in 2004.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 10:39 AM
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11. The 72 hour plan is the Republican version
of the ground game the Democrats already had in place. It probably represented an upgrade, but we've also had time to learn from it.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:20 PM
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12. what "Ground Game" of Dems in place? Could you give more info? n/t
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:30 PM
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14. Labor unions, community activists, volunteers, etc.
Rove was particularly impressed by Hillary's campaign machine in 2000.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-24-06 05:26 PM
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13. Just a "nudge" that when we watch "WJ" we need to BEWARE...what
really 'IS' their Agenda?
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SouthernBelle82 Donating Member (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:33 PM
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15. Uhm just a question
but what's the seventy-two hour plan? I don't get it.
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:38 PM
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17. 72 hr plan is
a massive GOTV initiative. Very targeted and with a whole lot of money behind it.
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:37 PM
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16. They are having the 72 hour plan
The republican oppenent to my Democratic incumbant Congressman has a page on facebook (or one of his staffers) and has put out the invite to all to come to my state for the last 72 hours and their accommodations, travel and food will be paid for.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:51 PM
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18. So where's OUR 72 Hour Plan? Do we even have one?
Damn! Are we going to get sucker-punched again?
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 01:05 PM
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20. We've been real organized in our county
Usually states bring in the "coordinated campaign" the last few weeks - but it's good to get involved at the local level so that their coordinated campaign is actually effective. It's different state by state and race by race.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-25-06 12:56 PM
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19. I heard Curran. Don't follow him that much, but there he is,
and he seems to be a sentient soul, if a bit overly cautious.

Ohio is awash in Diebold machines and Ken Blackwell is 15 or so points behind Ted Strickland. It's so plain that Blackwell is going to get his butt kicked in this one that his campaign is now running ads accusing Strickland of nefarious sexual scandals.

I don't think it's going to work, and I don't think all the Diebold machines in the state can reverse the outcome.

A few MSM people are talking about the GOP's "72-hour Plan" or some such bullshit, but if a halfway intelligent evangelical realizes he or she has been sold down the river by a pack of pirates, and they're left holding a bag that includes black sites, a president begging to torture human beings, smoldering rubble in Baghdad, a gutted social security network, and incomprehensible health care initiatives for their elderly, I think they either stay home or vote for our people.

Democrats win this one. By handsome margins.
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