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[bigbrother05]

White House wants an apology
Didn't see the speech, just have read through some threads
sounds to me like he is talking about the Economy Stupid
You don't have nothing without HOPE

[Connie_Corleone]

1. I saw the quote, but I need to see the rest of the speech.

[ellacott]

2. Kerry has become the October Surprise

Most people know what he meant but he left himself open for this.

[KingFlorez]

5. Oh, please

That is not an October Surprise

[ellacott]

8. Oh Please, I'm sorry you don't understand sarcasm

Goodness:eyes:

[emulatorloo]

6. hyperbole

maybe faux viewers will work themselves up into a lather about it. But we weren't getting thier vote anyway

[Mass]

3. He was talking about Bush. I hope he says it again at the presser

later this afternoon.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

4. Wow, the White House is still battling for the 2004 election?

You're two years behind, fellas. Kerry's not running for anything, is he?

[babylonsister]

7. Extra extra read all about it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x2525936

Kerry's initial statements and response are in here.

[emulatorloo]

9. Ha Ha, White House demands an apology?

I hope Kerry shoves one down their lying disingenous throats.

[ellacott]

10. He said he was going to put a boot in their other end from now on

I hope he keeps his word.

[emulatorloo]

13. Kerry Press Release -- AND IT IS A DAMN GOOD ONE -----

http://www.johnkerry.com/news/releases/release.html?id=33

October 31, 2006

Statement of John Kerry Responding to Republican Distortions, Pathetic Tony Snow Diversions and Distractions


Washington – Senator John Kerry issued the following statement in response to White House Press Secretary Tony Snow, assorted right wing nut-jobs, and right wing talk show hosts desperately distorting Kerry’s comments about President Bush to divert attention from their disastrous record:

“If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy. This is the classic G.O.P. playbook. I’m sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did.

I’m not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox’s Parkinson’s disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq. It disgusts me that these Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country lie and distort so blatantly and carelessly about those who have.

The people who owe our troops an apology are George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it. These Republicans are afraid to debate veterans who live and breathe the concerns of our troops, not the empty slogans of an Administration that sent our brave troops to war without body armor.

Bottom line, these Republicans want to debate straw men because they’re afraid to debate real men. And this time it won’t work because we’re going to stay in their face with the truth and deny them even a sliver of light for their distortions. No Democrat will be bullied by an administration that has a cut and run policy in Afghanistan and a stand still and lose strategy in Iraq.”

[bluestateguy]

16. Now THAT is what he should have done two years ago

Better late than never, I guess, but it's still late.

[Mojambo]

32. That is HARD CORE

I'd say that is hitting back damn hard.

[halobeam]

14. SO DO I !!!

I like a mad Kerry. He's quicker to the point, and he certainly has his facts straight enough to whoop them right in the a**!

An apology? ! ? "The nerve of this administration," is exactly where Kerry ought to begin his response.

[SouthernBelle82]

20. Me too

If I was Kerry I would ask when they were going to apologize for what they did to his war record and other things from 2004.

[bluestateguy]

11. OK, let's just say he does apologize

Will they stop criticizing him and thank him for the apology?

Blow it off. It'll go away in a few days. That's what they do when they say something stupid.

[emulatorloo]

15. read his press release in my post above -- it is a doozy

and it ain't an apology

[C_U_L8R]

12. Kerry to White House..... NUTS !!!!!!

go get em John

[Totally Committed]

17. Kerry'd better be careful! I hear the Repubs are formulating a plan to

discredit him.... bigtime.





:rofl:


TC

[MattP]

18. So we agree, is anybody here undecided?

Who cares what we think, it's what people in tight Senate races and house races think. I agree that kids are getting shafted into the military but alot of people in red states don't so I think it was stupid to say.

[ellacott]

19. Thank You

Sometimes our party is like the gang who couldn't shoot straight. There are some in red states who wouldn't understand. Just there were those in this thread who didn't understand what I meant by October surprise.

[ellacott]

23. The operative word is "most" n/t

[ProSense]

21. That's nonsense! Most people have long turned on this war

and realize they've been shafted:

http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/48807.aspx

And these are people who will never vote Democratic!

[ellacott]

25. The operative word is "most" n/t

[ProSense]

26. The operative word is most, meaning excluding wingnuts!

Anyone willing to buy into wingnuts hysterics ought not question why they are so confused! Most people, except wingnuts!

[ellacott]

29. Our feelings on the war are not in question

It was never about whether you support the war.

[ProSense]

30. Immoral actions are in question and Kerry is right!

The Bush administration lost its moral compass a long time ago. This is an example of how they are taking advantage of young people who may be troubled and physically unfit for the rigors of war, not to mention the college deferments given to the able bodied who are fit to serve.

Lower standards help Army recruit more

By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer Mon Oct 9, 7:34 PM ET

WASHINGTON - The U.S. Army recruited more than 2,600 soldiers under new lower aptitude standards this year, helping the service beat its goal of 80,000 recruits in the throes of an unpopular war and mounting casualties.

The recruiting mark comes a year after the Army missed its recruitment target by the widest margin since 1979, which had triggered a boost in the number of recruiters, increased bonuses, and changes in standards.

The Army recruited 80,635 soldiers, roughly 7,000 more than last year. Of those, about 70,000 were first-time recruits who had never served before.

According to statistics obtained by The Associated Press, 3.8 percent of the first-time recruits scored below certain aptitude levels. In previous years, the Army had allowed only 2 percent of its recruits to have low aptitude scores. That limit was increased last year to 4 percent, the maximum allowed by the Defense Department.

Snip...

About 17 percent of the first-time recruits, or about 13,600, were accepted under waivers for various medical, moral or criminal problems, including misdemeanor arrests or drunk driving. That is a slight increase from last year, the Army said.

Of those accepted under waivers, more than half were for "moral" reasons, mostly misdemeanor arrests. Thirty-eight percent were for medical reasons and 7 percent were drug and alcohol problems, including those who may have failed a drug test or acknowledged they had used drugs.

more...

Please, no lectures needed from Repugs and no apologies for them either. Period!

[ellacott]

31. I'm not saying that Kerry was incorrect, It could have been phrased differently

This is my opinion.

I know that the armed services are used by many(even before they lowered the standards) by people who felt they had no other options.

The reason that Charlie Rangel called for a draft is because of the disproportional representation.


I don't need a lecture from them either and I agree that he shouldn't apologize.

[Stinky The Clown]

22. Help an 'out of the looper' ....... what did Kerry say that now seems to .......

..... be growing into some sort of campaign issue?

[ellacott]

28. They are accusing him of insulting the troops

Of course he didn't but he could have chosen his words a little better.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061031/ts_alt_afp/usvoteiraqkerry_061031185851

[enough already]

24. Tell the WH to fuck off n/t

[Jensen]

27. Suck it to them, John!!!!!

Proud Kerry is MY President!:headbang: