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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 05:36 PM
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Big Vichy Dem-Ellen Tauscher..campaign manager doesn't like democracy
Edited on Tue Dec-12-06 05:37 PM by LiviaOlivia
CA-10: Tauscher's campaign manager whines about potential challenge
by kos
Tue Dec 12, 2006

Nice whine.

Only a month has passed since the Dems took back the House and Senate, and the divisive efforts of the netroots to rid the party of elected officials they don’t agree with has geared up in full force. Instead of doing what most good Democrats should be doing right now, which is working on getting our Freshman members of Congress re-elected in 2008, increasing our majorities in the House and Senate, and electing a Democratic President, the netroots are targeting sitting Democrats for defeat. That’s right. Instead of focusing on beating Republicans, these vocal Democratic activists are focusing on beating Democrats.

Last year, their misguided efforts were primarily concentrated on now re-elected Sen. Joe Lieberman, although they also targeted various "moderate" (bad word for the netroots) members of Congress in their primaries, such as Congresswoman Jane Harman and Congressman Adam Schiff. Their newest target: Congresswoman Ellen Tauscher, D-Alamo.


It's not surprising that this writer, Ellen Tauscher campaign manager Katie Merrill, would try to head off what will be a vicious fight for this seat in a primary. Unlike her apparent hero Joe Lieberman, Tauscher won't get a "do-over" if she loses. And it's no surprise, if you read her full whine, that she mischaracterizes the nature and source of the local opposition to Tauscher. Again, she's taking a book from her hero Joe Lieberman.

There's a comprehensive response to this post over at Calitics, which will undoubtedly be a huge resource as we gear up to take out a right-wing Democrat in a 59-percent Kerry district.

But here's the bottom line -- people like the local net- and grassroots and me argue that Tauscher is increasingly out of touch with Democrats in her district. She'll argue that she's not. Ultimately the Democratic voters of the district will decide who is right.

That's "democracy". And I'm not sure why so many people are afraid of letting people decide. In my perfect world, every incumbent -- especially those in safe seats -- would receive a stiff primary challenge. Otherwise, they become lazy and unresponsive.

So in CA-10, we will have a candidate, and there will be a primary. We'll all make our best cases, and to the victor will go the seat. As it should.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/12/12/152644/12
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 05:38 PM
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1. Speaking of Harman
I hope Marcy Winograd runs again, she got 36% last time when most people didn't know her :)
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TSIAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:05 PM
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2. Primaries don't seem to matter anymore
Unless there are "sore loser laws" in place, she could still run as an Independent and win with GOP support.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 06:28 PM
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3. looks like Kos has found another
Democrat to hate.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:59 PM
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4. So you support Tauscher
and her down the line the support of Junior? Kos is such a meanie in other words.

Comedy gold.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:07 PM
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5. yeah, that Kos is a laff a minute!
Why are you posting shit from him here on DU? If I wanted to read that idiot's garbage, I'd go to his website...




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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:16 PM
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6. This isn't a DLC board
maybe you're confused.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:33 PM
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8. hey, you're pretty funny!
maybe you and kos could get together for a comedy act!

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I think maybe you're confused. I don't see "DLC" mentioned anywhere in this thread...
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:14 AM
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11. Why are you attacking me?
What is my crime other then my post? Why do you hate democracy? Why do you hate freedom of speech?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 01:04 PM
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18. I'm attacking Kos
Though it's apparent from your posts on this thread that you can't tell the difference.

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 01:18 PM
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19. You noticed that eh?...nt
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 01:24 PM
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23. No, it is a DEMOCRATIC board, of which the DLC is included
Edited on Wed Dec-13-06 01:28 PM by wyldwolf
I submit for your consideration:

Founder of DU Skinner worked for the DLC.
"DLC" avatar is available for your use.
DU was founded after Al Gore (DLC) was robbed in 2000.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 09:18 PM
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10. What else is new...nt
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:25 AM
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13. Please link
anything that Tauscher has done well in the name of Democrats. It's easy to miss the point and attack Kos. Coward.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:26 AM
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14. Why are you attacking me?
What is my crime other then my post? Why do you hate democracy? Why do you hate freedom of speech?
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:33 AM
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15. Fucking echo
and a boring one at that.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:34 AM
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16. The ignore feature is your friend...nt
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:18 PM
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7. Netroots = Dem voters
Its the ultimate kitchen-table caucus.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 01:21 PM
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21. netroots=extremely small subset of voters usually out of step Dems as a whole.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:40 PM
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9. Here we go again
In 2008, we have to be worried about playing defense to protect the seats we have and offense to pickup a few. It's not really the time to start fighting other Democrats.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:22 AM
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12. "Democrats" is the the key word isn't it?
I believe Kos is a Dem but maybe you could help me out in documenting how Tauscher is a Democrat and argue her legitimacy.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 12:43 AM
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17. Gosh...she looks like a Dem to me...
2005 According to the National Journal - Composite Liberal Score's calculations, in 2005, Representative Tauscher voted more liberal on economic, defense and foreign policy issues than 74 percent of the Representatives.

2005 According to the National Journal - Liberal on Social Policy's calculations, in 2005, Representative Tauscher voted more liberal on social policy issues than 79 percent of the Representatives.

2005 According to the National Journal - Composite Conservative Score's calculations, in 2005, Representative Tauscher voted more conservative on economic, defense and foreign policy issues than 26 percent of the Representatives.

www.vote-smart.org

Not sufficiently pure for Kos I guess
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 01:22 PM
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22. He's going to make her "radioactive!"
:rofl:

Kos is a joke.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 02:50 PM
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24. Nah... Kos isn't a joke - he's an extremely successful
entrepreneur who's found a lucrative market in exploiting some people's expectations....

Houses in Berkeley ain't cheap, you know.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-13-06 01:18 PM
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20. Ponderous
To paraphrase Josh Marshall:

"There is an awfully distressing tendency among a minority of (the netroots) to serve up no end of lacerating comments about other candidates and then to react with a sort of stunned and outraged shock when anyone criticizes their guy(s)."

My new term for them is the cult of perpetual outrage.
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