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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:29 AM
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Maureen Dowd rips into Obama: he looks as if he needs a smoke BAD
Dumb ass b**ch she must be a Hillary supporter.http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm
DRUDGE REPORT FLASH 2007®
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:33 AM
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1. Oh he will smoke alright - the competition (nt)
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:34 AM
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2. What does that mean
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:36 AM
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3. wipe out the competition, heh
Calm down. :)

Dowd doesn't decide anything and if her comments about Obama are going to be that bitchy, her prejudice against him will be obvious.

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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:39 AM
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4. I agree most of the time with her but on this one she in my opinion is wrong
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 07:20 AM
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11. She can hurt though
I would have agreed with you. But she was the main idiot who blasted Gore on things like wearing earth colors and "being boring" because he didn't keep her as entertained.

She fabricated a quote that she attributited to Kerry, "Who among us is not a NASCAR fan?". The fact that he doesn't speak that way did not stop the NYT and other media from quoting it as Kerry - and saying he was out of touch.

She's hit Hillary pretty hard too - so she may just be a snarky negative person. I can't remember her saying anything on Edwards - but she annoys me too much so I often skip her stupid column.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 07:23 AM
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12. Yeah, that's true
But to be fair, she's given the Democrats snarky ammo against the Republicans, too.

I guess everyone has a reason to hate Dowd but that is what she does, love it or hate it.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 07:59 AM
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14. Very true
I think she hurts the Democrats more. She is considered a Democratic partisan, so people take the Bush et al attacks as attacks. I think she did a huge disservice to Gore and Kerry because her snark was taken as truth - when it wasn't.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:13 AM
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16. She's been hard on Edwards, too - called him "The Breck Girl" n/t
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 08:14 AM by beaconess
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 10:26 AM
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31. True - nearly every time she mentions him.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:36 AM
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21. It's moments like this when I picture Dowd an Alpha bitch at a
sororiety rush meeting, blackballing prospects for stupid things like what they're daddys do for a living, or because they shop at Target instead of Aeropostale.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:33 AM
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20. Dowd doesn't decide anything?
If there's a cross-wind of negative opinion coming from pundits, it can affect the climate of any election.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 10:17 AM
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27. One piece by Dowd doesn't not a cross-wind make
Don't give her that kind of power. She does have the ability to sum up in a wickedly snarky remark weaknesses that politicians already have or pounce on a dumb mistake. It really can't stick unless there is already a perception or opinion about the person out there already that her remarks kind of nail. Which means it's already a problem regardless of Dowd. If a candidate can be seriously hurt by anything she writes, he/she already has problems.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 10:25 AM
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30. With Gore and Kerry, she amphlified themes the RW had
spent a huge amount of time on. Dowd agreeing in the "liberal" paper of record gives the framing credibility.

Kerry was attacked as elitist, pompous and aloof since 1971. I have met him with other DU people and none of those words describe him in the least. (The NYT reporting was as bad - including an article on Marvin who was Kerry's personal assistant - every candidate ever has someone in this role but only with Marvin was the word "butler" included in the story.)
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 10:36 AM
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32. Most people did not meet Kerry in person
A candidate is introduced for most people through the media. I could have told you before the campaign even started that he would have a problem coming off as aloof or too much east cost old money. No candidate comes to the table without weaknesses. Sometimes there is nothing you can do about it and you stress the positive association people have rather than the negative, like intelligence or competence or whatever. But Dowd, by design, doesn't do positive stories about how great anyone is, democrat or republican. Not everything she says sticks, not by a long shot. We only remember the remarks that do. It's like asking John Stewart to say nice things about Democrats, that's not his role.

Nearly everyone has had "their guy or gal" slammed by Dowd at one time or another.



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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:24 PM
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35. "Perceptions" are molded in the minds of Americans quite easily.
Just tweak their prejudices and they will follow. There is an entire industry out there who has figured out what makes Americans jump. They know how to come in under the radar, they know how to use language that means something strong to others, and appears innocuous to the rest. What she said about Obama may appear like it's harmless to some, but to others it might suggest that Obama is that college degree'd black guy with a chip on his shoulder, that you always feared.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:50 AM
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5. she has written the same disgusting shit about Hillary and other Democrats
she is one of those "liberals" who are too cool for the Democrats and like to make fun of Democrats so they can fit in with the right wing media whores and be popular among them.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 06:34 AM
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6. Ms. Dowd prides herself on her smug observations.
This one in particular is downright snotty.
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Missy M Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 06:43 AM
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7. She does it to Hillary too....
she did it to Al Gore big time. I don't know why people here are into her.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 07:03 AM
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10. They're into her because she trashes Bush and Cheney
But folks aren't as happy when she turns her venom on one of our own.

She's an equal opportunity basher - she's nasty to everybody.
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beaconess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 06:46 AM
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8. She's definitely not a Hillary supporter - she's just as nasty to her
She's just snarky.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 06:58 AM
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9. And Wes Clark wore a sweater she didn't like.
Is she relevant?
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 07:49 AM
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13. Excuse the blunt honesty ...
But Mareen Dowd needs a romance. ;)
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fuzzyball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 03:39 PM
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46. I will volunteer if you describe her physicals....
LOL
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:12 AM
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15. Mo:..."he doesn't have a do-whatever-it-takes family firm with contract killers and debt collectors,
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 09:10 AM by flpoljunkie
like Bush Inc. and Clinton Inc."

I consider that quite a compliment.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:18 AM
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17. Must you call Dowd a 'B*tch'? No, she doesn't support HRC.
You really woke up hating women this morning!

Say something nice about someone.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 10:23 AM
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28. So how about Dowd?
The question I have is when did Dowd ever say anything nice about anyone? Sometimes smugness and negativity gets passed off as intelligence. Much easier to be snarky than to say what you are for.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:28 AM
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18. First Off, Dowd writes for the NYT, not the Drudge Report, so read the whole Dowd piece
anyway, that's her style. You ever see Seinfeld? New Yorkers of a certain intellect enjoy some snottiness, I know I do. She's fine, she detests the Chimp, and if you read the whole article, you would have seen that she's writing about the stupid exasperating process of running for President.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 10:11 AM
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26. Precisely
Unfortunately, you have to either buy a copy of the NYT (I read mine this morning) or be a web subscriber to see her article.

Sludge had his web monkey read it and crap out the opinion...




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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 03:30 PM
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45. Dowd is a Washingtonian
Don't slam New York!




:P
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:28 PM
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47. What Slam????
I like Mo Dowd, and I've lived in NY and I still get the NY Times - it beats the living crap out of the Post....

I didn't think I was slamming anyone.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:30 AM
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19. What a stupid, stupid thing to say.
What is it with that woman?
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Red Zelda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:45 AM
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22. Mo is lost...
This just in: Hillary is vapid toast, Gore's time is past,
dead-tree media is shit, Edwards is way over.
OBAMA is the future, folks.
He's got my vote.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 09:45 AM
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23. I don't think she "ripped" into him. I read the article
If anything, she showed his human side in the face of the "global press corps".

Much ado about....nuttin'.




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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 09:54 AM
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25. I thought the article was favorable about Obama
It was just a slice of life-- on the road with a campaign.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 09:48 AM
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24. BTW, please don't link to that Sludge Toilet site, pleeeeeeze...
It just gives him hits on his site that he doesn't deserve.





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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 10:25 AM
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29. Every time you click on Drudge's smarmy site, an Rovarian Hell's Angel gets it's wings. n/t
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 10:26 AM by ShortnFiery
:evilgrin:
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 10:51 AM
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33. MoDo strikes again.
Gah, she's such a political opportunist.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 11:11 AM
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34. you like her -you hate her but
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 11:11 AM by madrchsod
she could give a shit less...it was`t the best she has written but she`s got some interesting comments.
"developing" on drudge is really funny-i just read the whole thing over at Politika Erotika.
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 12:47 PM
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36. that trick ho bitch. nt.
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:00 PM
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37. He does need a smoke.
His wife made him quit smoking as part of her prez. run stamp of approval.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:30 PM
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38. NEVER trust Sludge. Read her article. It doesn't put him down
It actually sounds like she likes his "slim figure"...If I were Obama, I'd watch out when she comes batting her chessicat eyes...


MAUREEN DOWD: Obama, Legally Blonde?

IOWA FALLS

Barack Obama looked as if he needed a smoke and he needed it bad.

Everyone knows you’re not supposed to make two big changes at once. But Michelle Obama’s price for letting her husband run was that he quit.

So there he was, trying to meet the deep, inexhaustible needs of both Iowa activists and the global press behemoth on his first swing across the state, while giving up cigarettes.

He was a tad testy. Traipsing around desolate stretches of snowy — and extremely white — Iowa to go into living rooms and high school gyms and take questions like “Are you willing to stand up for independent family farmers?” makes me want to sneak out for a drag, too, and I don’t even smoke.

“I’ve been chewing Nicorette all day long,” he told reporters at a press conference in Ames on Sunday, where he was getting irritated at suggestions that he lacked substance and at the specter of his vanishing privacy. And, oh yes, at the accusation by the Australian prime minister (sounding two sheep short of a paddock) that Mr. Obama’s deadline to get out of Iraq made him Al Qaeda’s dream candidate.

The Illinois senator didn’t have on an implacable mask of amiability, as Hillary did in Iowa. He didn’t look happily in his element, like Bill Clinton. But he certainly didn’t look as if he was straining to survive the Q .& A.’s, as W. did in the beginning.

Beyond his smooth-jazz façade, the reassuring baritone and that ensorcelling smile, the 45-year-old had moments of looking conflicted.

In the lobby of the AmericInn in Iowa Falls on Saturday night, he seemed a bit dazed by his baptism into the big-time. He was left munching trail mix all day while, he said, “the press got fed before me.”

Everything was a revelation for him: The advance team acronym RON, for Rest Overnight. Women squealing. “I saw a hat,” he noted with a grin, “that said, ‘Obama, clean and articulate.’ ”

Senator Obama’s body language was loose — and he’s so slender his wedding band looked as if it was slipping off — but there was a wariness in his dark eyes.

He is backed up by a strong, smart wife and a professional campaign team, but he doesn’t have a do-whatever-it-takes family firm with contract killers and debt collectors, like Bush Inc. and Clinton Inc.

He was eloquent, if not as inspiring as his advance billing had prepared audiences to expect. He made his first Swift-boat-able slip when he had to apologize for talking about soldiers’ lives “wasted” in Iraq. He sounded self-consciously pristine at times, as if he was too refined for the muck of politics. That’s not how you beat anybody but Alan Keyes.

After talking to high school journalists, he took a sniffy shot at the loutish reporters who were merely whispering where’s the beef: “Take some notes, guys, that’s how it’s done.”

No fewer than three times last week, Mr. Obama got indignant about the beach-babe attention given to a shot of him in the Hawaiian surf.

Using the dreaded third person that some candidates slip into, he told the press that one of their favorite narratives boiled down to “Obama has pretty good style, he can deliver a pretty good speech, but he seems to prioritize rhetoric over substance.” After an ode to his own specificity, he tut-tutted, “You’ve been reporting on how I look in a swimsuit.”

He poses for the cover of Men’s Vogue and then gets huffy when people don’t treat him as Hannah Arendt.

For some of us, it’s hard to fathom being upset at getting accused of looking great in a bathing suit. But his friends say it played into this Harvard grad’s fear of being seen as “a dumb blond.” He has been known to privately mock “pretty boys” (read John Edwards, the Breck Girl of 2004).

He doesn’t lack confidence, but he’s so hung up on being seen as thoughtful that he sometimes comes across as too emotionally detached and cerebral with crowds yearning for an electric, visceral connection. J.F.K. mixed cool with fire.

For a man who couldn’t wait to inject himself into the national arena, and who has spent so much time writing books about himself, the senator is oddly put off by press inquisitiveness.

When The Times’s Jeff Zeleny asked him on his plane whether he’d had a heater in his podium during his announcement speech in subzero Springfield, Mr. Obama hesitated. He shot Jeff a look that said, “Are you from People magazine?” before conceding that, unlike Abe Lincoln, he’d had a heater.

Take some notes, senator, that’s how it’s done.



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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:32 PM
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39. She's just begging for attention.
Edited on Wed Feb-14-07 01:33 PM by AX10
If you want meaningful insight, read Paul Krugman!
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:35 PM
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40. I really do not want to provide Drudge with more hits
that can help him sell more ads.

Can you, or others, just post a few paragraphs?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:43 PM
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43. The article is in my post posted a couple above this...
Read her article. It's not putting him down...just shows how he's dealing with running for President...

Sludge just wants to stir up the pot...




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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:48 PM
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44. Thanks. I should have read thru the thread, first
I wonder whether nicotine patches can be better than gum..
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:36 PM
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41. Simply say NO to Drudge!
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July Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 01:41 PM
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42. I think she hates Hillary and Bill.
She never misses a chance to snipe at them.

Her columns aren't worth your time. It's just junior-high gossip and fantasy most of the time.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:52 PM
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48. As Bartcop has pointed out....
She hates everything!
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 09:41 PM
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49. Hillary supporter?
Maybe, but Dowd has made incredibly snarky remarks about her as well.

I just find her writing shallow and superficial. It's pseudo-intellectual, pretentious garbage. She's not worth taking seriously.
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