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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 03:37 PM
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Southern Baptists, legislators, "family" groups, possibly Catholics organize for political reasons.
I have seen 5 people here at DU defending Bill Donohue's attacks on the Edwards' bloggers, defending the right of his organization to do such things. The result has been death threats for the two bloggers. Yet I have seen continuing defense of Donohue.

I wrote about this alliance in 2005 when all these groups got together to take away the rights of a single group of people...the gay community. There was a large rally held in front of one of these Baptist megachurches in our city to oppose what they were doing. My husband went and stood with the group made up of all kinds of people from around the state....people who saw the church working actively against a group of fellow human beings.

It is not ok what Bill Donohue and the other groups are doing, demanding that the bloggers hired by our Democrats be pure in their past and never having attacked the church with words that were not perfectly correct.

It is not ok for a church to tell women they can not control their bodies either, that they can not have birth control. But it is considered inappropriate for anyone to say it. It is not proper. Well, I just said it.

Here is what I posted in 2005.

Our Southern Baptists are at it again...legislating morality.

We had our names taken off the roll here when they advocated for the Iraq invasion as being a holy war against good and evil. They called us unpatriotic. I was raised as a Southern Baptist, but I am ashamed of them right now. One large local church has split over moderate/conservative lines. Others are about to do so. It is going to be a real battle for the heart and soul of religion.


One of those churches that split was one founded by my father along with other leaders in the community and church. I am glad he was not alive to see what happened to it.

More from the article:

Baptists ally with Catholics and lawmakers to defeat gay marriage

The State Board of Missions of the Florida Baptist Convention approved a strategy to put a proposed amendment before voters next year. The Baptists are forming an alliance with family-advocacy groups and state legislators that eventually may include the largest denomination in the state, the Catholic Church."

..."Denman said the ad hoc alliance working on the amendment includes the Christian Coalition, Liberty Counsel, a nonprofit advocacy organization in Orlando, and the Florida chapter of Focus on the Family. Denman also said the alliance is receiving advice from "several state legislators," but she declined to give their names."

..."At least one bishop, Victor Galeone of the Diocese of St. Augustine in Northeast Florida, has expressed support for the Baptist effort.

If the Catholics join the efforts to pass the amendment, it would put the state's two largest religious bodies, with a total of more than 3.5 million members, in common cause."


The pastor mentioned here came up to me in the hospital when a family member was in critical condition. I knew who he was, and I tried to avoid him as I was speaking with the nurse. He interrupted and asked to pray with me. I said no, I would do my own praying until they quit persecuting others. He walked away as though he did not hear me at all.

And think about it, how legal is it for lawmakers to join with churches to oppose the rights of a group of people. I know who these guys were, but I would not post their names.
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Charleyski Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 07:22 PM
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1. Who do you think got us into this mess?
Now that the Republicans have not completed the expected Inquisition. The fable-ists will now squeeze the Democrats. And I fear they will succeed. If you are not happy with the way things have been going. Better think twice.
Who do you think got us into this mess?

If I may be so bold.
To have leaders who constrict their reasonable thought and decision making by pandering to a powerful fanatical group is very dangerous!
Oh... I'm sorry... you thought I was talking about the mideast?
No...NO...No
Right here. Right Now!

America get a grip on your Fairy Tales or our reality will become a nightmare.

Chester Smalkowski
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:11 PM
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2. No way to point to anyone in particular on this.
It happened because the Republicans started their coup, and we did not catch on in time.

And when we did we were too shy and cautious.
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