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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:53 PM
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Anybody listening to CNN's Jeff Greenfield on Wolf? Sounds like he's Giuliani's NY campaign chair!
Not a word about how his failures that contributed to the loss of life of the first responders, let alone those in the World Trade Towers--or how he's cashed in on 9/11.

Is the main stream media in the tank for Giuliani already--or are they doing a George W. Bush--failing to tell the American people who Rudy Giuliani really is and what he has spent since time since 9/11? Giuliani Partners? Bernard Kerik, anyone?
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 04:55 PM
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1. NO
and thanks for the heads up.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 05:10 PM
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2. Count on Greenfield to be with the fascists.
Greenfield sold out a long time ago. It doesn't matter whom he supports (in his 'objective' way), because whomever he supports will be wrong for everyone except the plutocracy. Imus loves Greenfield. By itself, that shows how lousy a reprter Jeff is.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 05:13 PM
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3. Well, if the press doesn't tell people this year, maybe we can do so next year.
Trust me, we want to run against Giuliani. But trust me on this too, we won't have the opportunity. His nomination would tear their party apart. He'll get about 30-60% of the independents--depending on how convincingly he can shift to the middle ground on Iraq. But he'll lose about a third of the social conservatives outright, no matter how hard he sucks on Falwell when he campaigns in the South (which he will have to do). There is not a Republican in their right mind who wants Giuliani as their nominee. They can win with a Hagel, but no other type of candidate.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-01-07 05:20 PM
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4. We have a year to go....and the Corporate media wants a horserace......on the Pub side as well.
They ain't gonna give up all of their trump cards now.

I see it this way: National security strength is still what many in the U.S. want in a President, hence Guliani's high polling number- right now it is the only thing he offers, and that's not as certain as that.

Now, if McCain or Giuliani can't stay in the top tier, it leaves inexperience Romney to have to go up against a Dem. Nominee...but Romney negates the National Security Repug trump card, and so I believe for this reason Romney is a no go.....unless a Dem non security candidate is nominated, i.e., Obama or Edwards....and to some extent Hillary (cause really, senate committees ain't exactly "national security" experience).

So in the end, if the Dem nominate someone with National security credentials, Romney loses without question, and McCain and Giuliani could easily lose because both are flawed, i.e., because their National Security credentials ain't all that (POW and There during 9/11 does not national security make).

if the Dem nominate someone without National security credentials,, then Giuliani and McCain become competitive no matter how shabby their credential are, and Romney becomes competitive as well (think Romney vs. Edwards--neither have it).

In other words, watch the Corporate media push a non National Security credentialed candidate on the Dem side (meaning NO to Richardson and Hell No to Clark for sure, maybe to Hillary, and a great big yes to Obama and Edwards), and watch them push a National Security candidate on the Pub side.

Maybe there is another terrorist attack in our future that is being planned for soon enough.....in where if the Repug has the right candidate nominated and the Dems have someone without the required experience, then the republicans win again.



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