After last night's debate, it's easy to see why the Goddess of Peace will be our next President

[mtnsnake]

...just in case the reality of the situation hasn't already jolted you.

Think about it. She's so far ahead that all her adversaries are becoming desperate and being obvious about it. Edwards and Obama have tried everything possible under the sun to pick up ground on her and they still can't do it. Hahaha, when they talked about Hillary's "coat", what they were really telling the viewers is this: "Hey viewers, don't you realize that Hillary is a woman? Wake up!!" That's the kind of thing you resort to when you're so far behind that you have to pull the gender card in a last ditch effort to unseat Numero Uno. Well I've got some news for Obama and Edwards. Hillary might wear a lady's coat, but she is tougher than nails and they're not nearly tough enough. The voters know it and that's why she's got this thing all but sewn up. Unless Obama can pull a miracle and find the same magic that he pulled from the hat during his 2004 speech at the DNC, he'll be nothing more than a distant memory...a one-hit wonder. Ride Captain Ride!

The Republicans vs Hillary? LMAO, the entire lot of those inbred assholes could gang up on her and she'd still paste their sorry collective asses to the wall. Even the Pentagon isn't a match for the Goddess of Peace. The country knows it.

The lady kicks ass, everyone sees it, and she's keeping all her naysayers awake late at night. The Democrats need a fighter, the nation won't settle for anything less than a fighter, and love her or hate her, the lady is a fighter. Barring a miracle comeback from Obama, who I still really like, Hillary will soon be changing her name from Senator to President and that sounds fine with me. Yeah

[obnoxiousdrunk]

1. Obama is getting closer

to take the VP spot.

[Alamom]

2. Love this OP . Pleased to give it the first rec. eom.

[welshTerrier2]

3. is that the Goddess of Peace who voted FOR the war?

is that the Goddess of Peace who keeps voting for massive defense appropriations?

is that the Goddess of Peace who voted against an amendment to ban the use of cluster bombs in civilian areas?

Goddess of Peace ... what a joke ...

[mtnsnake]

19. If your talking about authorization, yes, that would be the one and same HRC, the GOP...

aka the Goddess of Peace...the first candidate to vow to end the war upon taking the oath when elected president if Bush's war was still going on...the same person who had the guts to call Bush's administration the worst administration in the history of this nation...while the rest of the wimps watched and sat on their hands...except for Kucinich, that is.

[welshTerrier2]

28. avoiding her vote FOR cluster bombs?

how about some of those great big defense authorizations? is that what Goddesses of Peace support?

and she's vowing to end the "war" when "taking the oath" of office? you mean, she's committed to another year and a half of war? some Goddess of Peace you have there ... how about doing something NOW?????

and, btw, does the Goddess of Peace condone the US theft of Iraqi Oil? She's been pushing pretty damned hard for that Iraqi Oil Law?

has she clearly said she opposes the imperialistic, criminal grab for oil? I must have missed that speech by the Goddess of Peace? can you be pro-imperialism but still pro-peace? I'd like to see how she tap dances through that mine field ...

[Cha]

56. Is that like GOP?

Yep, it's GOP.

[The Gunslinger]

58. Has this godess of peace stood up and supported impeachment

This war won't end until he is gone.

[mtnsnake]

78. Unfortunately, no, but that's one of her only negatives. Hey, nobody's perfect!

Dennis needs to talk to her about the impeachment thing.

[Lerkfish]

4. "goddess of peace"? wow. just wow.

where do I start?

I guess I'll just stay with the most egregious: couching description of your candidate in religious idolation does not make me very comfortable.
I'm referring to YOUR reference, apart from her at all.

Second, using "peace" with Clinton is highly misleading. Maybe with Kucinich.

I really don't understand why you think frothing at the mouth like this gets new converts?

[Zensea]

10. I have some suggestions where you could start

but they'd probably get me banned.

I agree with your post unequivocally.

[Lerkfish]

14. thanks. sometimes I just shake my head around here.

Completely apart from qualifications, a fanatical following is a red flag to me for any candidate. I do not use fervor of the acolytes as a reason to vote for someone, if anything, it makes me extremely suspicious.

[bobbolink]

32. Clearly, the OP isn't familiar with corporations and what they do.

:crazy:

[MGKrebs]

43. Not sure what you are referring to. Any more info available?

[bobbolink]

48. The assumption that Hillary is "doing so well" because she's so "loved"

She has the backing of HUGE corporations, and big money, which has put her in the spotlight and makes it *seem* like she's overwhelmingly popular.

Right now I'm so tired I can hardly find the keyboard, so I hope that makes sense.'

:hi:

[MGKrebs]

51. Well after you have rested up perhaps you could justify the "huge corporations"

support with a link or some info that informs your statement, as well as the "big money" comment.
The data that I have seem to indicate that more than 99% of her financial support is coming from individual donors.

[bobbolink]

52. Apparently you think she is just fine, and I'm not in the mood to argue.

For the rest of us, we don't appreciate our government run by corporation.

Oh, and you might check out Michael Moore's bit in SICKO about her, and her backing from medical corporations and PHARMco.

Other than that, whatever floats your boat.

Ta Ta...

[MGKrebs]

53. If you are right, I would like to know. if this is a myth, we should straighten it out.

This chart shows Clinton getting less than 1% of her money from business PACs.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.asp?id=N00000019&cycle=2008

This chart shows "health professionals" as a top contributor group, but that can't be "medical corporations" or "PHARMco" can it? And if so, are we going to take the position that supporting "medical professionals" is not a good position for Dems?

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/indus.asp?id=N00000019&cycle=2008

Perhaps there is other info that I am missing and is the basis for your belief.

[bobbolink]

55. I think it's been written about plenty. You back her, and I'm not doing your homework for you.

As I said, look at Michael Moore's comment, for just one example.

Many of us don't want our country run by corporations any more than it already is. She now is beholden to them.

I suspect, typical of DU, that you're going to really blast me on this.

Have at it.

I'm done.

[Alexander]

45. Agreed. Fanatical idolatry of ANY candidate is a really bad sign.

There's a difference between supporting a candidate and worshiping them as a deity.

The former can involve sanity while the latter has nothing to do with it.

I am already very suspicious of the Hillary fanatics here.

[truedelphi]

27. Lerkfish - I have your back

And so do many others.

[Oldenuff]

81. It's great that you are so supportive,but

I'll take Dennis...cause all the "Big Money"<wink wink> is on Hillary and the front runners.She was at one time a pretty good candidate I think.Then she realized that it took TONS of money to win an election.

Just cause I don't support her and don't like her even a little bit,doesn't mean that I won't allow you to support her.

[ProudDad]

35. I'm speechless

:wow: :wow: :wow:






Goddess of Peace

[bobbolink]

49. You really need to post warnings on these things.

:rofl:

[BeyondGeography]

5. Obama the one-hit wonder and distant memory

Mtnsnake always was one of your staunchest supporters. :sarcasm:

And I love these dictates from on high. They could be written by Her Majesty herself. I'm gonna win, Eat this!

And they wonder why there's an enthusiasm gap.

[rodeodance]

6. She hit back hard at the Pent underling!

[Dawgs]

8. How?

He called her out for not questioning the war from the beginning. She just stood there and took it.

He said he would meet with them; unlike Bush. She said she would wait to meet with foreign leaders.

[Dawgs]

7. Hillary 2007 = Dean 2003

You better hope your arrogance doesn't come back to bite you. It will be a hard fall.

[ElizabethDC]

12. For me, Obama's campaign reminds me more of Dean in 2003

the level of excitement and the huge crowds, etc. But every campaign cycle (and every candidate!) is different.

[saracat]

9. I do not buy into the inevitability argument.Sorry.Either Edwards or Obama

has a real shot at dethroning the "Goddess".And the coat remark was a "joke" and worked for the most part.Obama and Edwards showed warmth and charm, qualities Hillary doesn't express well.This is the country that voted for the "Bush Charm offensive"(Though I never saw his charm) and voted for the guy they wanted to have a beer with! Hillary is so diviosive the GOP uses her to raise money.We need a candidate who can get those GOP votes and Hillary is questionable.The problem is not they they "fear" Hillary but that they don't "like" her. and that is bad for the General.

[Forkboy]

11. Hey,where ya been?

This place isn't the same without you.Without you there's no one who likes Hillary and yet still has a sense of humor! ;)

:yoiks:

[mtnsnake]

17. Workin, fishin, hikin, survivin, and just plain messin!

Oh, and mowing the frigging grass every other minute when I'm not doing any of the above!

Summer's way too short, Forky. Good to see you though. Keep ROCKIN!!

Goddess of Peace...ahhhhhhhh - Ooh La La :evilgrin:

[MannyGoldstein]

13. Polls At This Point Predict Nothing. Nada.

Bupkes.

Zilch.

At this point in 2004, Lieberman was out front if I recall correctly.

Mrs. Clinton has great name recognition, and we live in a country where more than 30% of residents can't name the Vice President or their own state's governor. In a poll where "none of the above" is not an option, of course she'll come out on top - for now.

[dionysus]

15. one toke over the sweet mntsnake, one toke over the line...

standing downtown at the DLC station, one toke over the liiiiiiiine...

[Bitwit1234]

16. If she does get the nomination

can yo in your wildest dreams imagine what slamming, bashing, swiftboating and lies the republicans are going to throw at her. The last fifteen years they have bashed her, are going to be nothing as to what they will try to do. Fox, MSNBC and CNN will go after her 24 hours a day 7 days a week.

[mtnsnake]

18. That's why she's most likely our next pres

They've taken their best shots at her for what seems like an eternity, and whenever they've thrown a stone at her she hits them right back, only with a brick. The lady has weathered anything they can muster up against her and has come out of looking all the more stronger each time. No wonder they're all scared to death of her. In the backs of their minds, her adversaries are all intimidated by her and rightfully so. Right now there is simply no one who can match her.

[sampsonblk]

21. Its not about the challenge, its about the response

And she is a fighter. Unlike John Kerry.

If they come after her, she is going to come after them right back. That's what its about.

[Alamom]

31. So true.....that is what it's about.

"Everyone" should be aware. Very few are in her league......actually, I can't think of anyone at this moment.

If they come after her, she is going to come after them right back. That's what its about.

[politicasista]

34. Your slam of Kerry while promoting Hillary is uncalled for

You may think that helps her, but tearing down the FEW that is still on our side while proping up Hillary does NOT help her.

How come no one wants to ask why didn't the Democratic Party back Kerry up when the Smear Boat fools made their rounds? How come they sat on their behinds and did not lift a finger when the smear ads came out?

Interesting that the party gets a pass while the one that contuiously fights, yes fights (ending the war, Alito, environment, and so on) gets slammed, bashed, and dumped on just to promote others.

People need to walk a day in the man's shoes and then understand what fighting really means.


That's not very helpful period. I don't care what anyone says.

[laugle]

42. I don't think it was tearing him down and I voted for Kerry

in both elections. I would have preferred that he take the gloves off, there was so much amunition he could have used. But I don't want to rehash the 2004 election.

Please understand, that the perception of Kerry not being a fighter is out there! I would go so far as to say, that this was one of the main reason's people would not support him in 2008.

IMO, this position is a valid one, and not an attack on Kerry.

[sampsonblk]

61. I didn't intend it to be offensive-nt

[politicasista]

63. But you could have talked up Hillary without

putting down Kerry. And BTW: He did respond, but the media buried the response and gave the liars more air time. Plus, the party not only didn't back him up, they sat on their hands and did nothing. And the left-leaning pundits got their behinds handed to them by the right-leaning pundits.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x2555

Bush didn't do all the work by himself, he had the GOP and the GOP-controlled broadcast media doing it for him by going on all the pundit shows and repeating the same talking points over and over again. But in this case, Kerry was supposed to do all that, including securing the votes, strengthening the party, including the SOS in the battleground states all by himself, but no, let's just dump all on the nominee while we let the REAL persons that were supposed to help out off the hook.

Hillary has party support. Kerry didn't.

[sampsonblk]

67. OK, I let you slide because you're a Cubs' fan

...and I know how hard that is. I mentioned Kerry only as an aside.

[politicasista]

71. Yep. I am a Cubs fan

Peace. :hi:

[Adelante]

20. Missed you, mtnsnake

:hi:


But I think Obama was being gallant. That was how I took it last night.

[mtnsnake]

73. Obama is still very popular and rightfully so

but he hasn't shown me the luster and brilliance that I was hoping for. I'm still high on him but in all honesty he's been a slight letdown for me since his high moment during that inspiring speech of his at the DNC in 04. I was expecting much more from him. So far he hasn't moved me like I thought he would.

:hi:

[Adelante]

91. Well, nobody's moving me

I figure I will decide in October sometime.

[sandnsea]

22. mtnsnake is cheering for Hillary

Gee. Whoda thunk it.

[Blue_In_AK]

24. LOL. n/t

[Like It Is]

23. Hillary is well coached and well prepared.

What happens when she has to think on her own?

[liberal renegade]

59. gimme a freaking break!

What gives you that idea? please explain.....

[AtomicKitten]

25. K&R #5 -- nice to see you back (nt)

[mtnsnake]

74. Nice to see you, to

:hi:

[Raster]

26. "Goddess of Peace"??? WTF??

Better question: what are you smoking?

[Nedsdag]

80. "Goddess of Peace?"

The same "Goddess of Peace" who wouldn't talk with Castro or Chavez?

She's more like "Goddess of the Cold War" is you ask me.

[Totally Committed]

29. The "Goddess of Peace"?????

The "I won't apologize for my IWR vote" Goddess of Peace?

The "No definite Date for Withdrawal" Goddess of Peace?

The "Permanent Bases in Iraq" Goddess of Peace?

The "I never saw a cluster bomb I'd vote against" Goddess of Peace?

The "AIPAC Champion" Goddess of Peace?

SHE is a "Goddess of Peace"? :eyes:


That is obscene, absurd, and gives all REAL Goddesses of Peace a bad name.


Get real. You need to find a much better name for her. "Goddess of Triangulation", maybe? Or Goddess of the DLC"? Or maybe even "Goddess of the Non-Answer Answer".


TC

[mtnsnake]

75. The world will be a safer, more peaceful place than ever before. More fun too

When President Hillary takes over in a year and a half we'll all be seeing the results in a matter of days from the time she takes over. Mark my words, TC! Oh yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHH

[BlueEyedSon]

30. Enough with the DYNASTIC PRESIDENCIES already!

[nini]

47. I never quite understood this argument

IF someone wants to vote for Hillary based on what they think she can do for the country then why should the fact her husband was president make a difference?

So, using your reasoning we shouldn't vote for her even if we feel she's the best candidate?


I didn't vote against W because his dad was president but because I saw he was a fucking idiot asshole. His father had nothing to do with my vote.

[Cameron27]

33. Hey it's good to see you back!

[martymar64]

36. If she wins, this country is fucked.

As President, Hillary will:

1. Continue the war in Iraq.

2. Invade or bomb Iran (her good buddy Lieberman will love that!)

3. Fund gas chambers and crematoria to put the Palestinians in.

4. Continue to advocate for corporations at the expense of the people.

5. Subsidize the Insurance Industry and Big Pharma by requiring mandatory private health insurance.



So forgive me if I don't share your enthusiasm for the "Goddess of Peace" ( that phrase just made me throw up in my mouth).

[liberal renegade]

60. This country is already fucked!

It can't get much worse. Quite frankly, I'd rather be fucked by Hillary because I'm tired of being fucked by Bush.....

[mtnsnake]

76. No. If she wins, the country is saved....FINALLY...and possibly the world too

Same if Obama wins, but I don't think he's going to pull it out.

So forgive me if I don't share your enthusiasm for the "Goddess of Peace" ( that phrase just made me throw up in my mouth).

lol now THAT is funny! :toast:

Anyway, the Goddess of Peace will put a stop to the madness created by Bush and the Republican war machine, and the repukes all now it. They're petrified that she'll get the Democratic nod because they fully realize that there isn't a single one of their sorry asses that can come close to matching her in any kind of a political race. They also realize that she'll become one of the most liberal presidents in history once she takes the oath.

First woman president will be Hillary Clinton, the Goddess of Peace......ahhhhhhhhhh

[Lerkfish]

82. so, now she's our Saviour as well?

wow, this whole thread should be in the religion/theology forum

[ShortnFiery]

86. She's a swaggering "Peace Warrior" ... A Blessed Saint not all that different

than say, a middle-aged Joan of Arc. :crazy:



Oh Brother! :eyes:

[bvar22]

37. Goddess of Peace??????

You do understand that Hillary has reassured her Corporate/MIC backers that she WILL continue the Occupation of Iraq indefinitely?

Redeploying some troops at some time in the future when conditions permit is a PRO-WAR position.

[OneBlueSky]

38. you're assuming BushCo is going to leave in 2009 . . . I wouldn't make that assumption . . .

why do you think Bush is issuing all of these Executive Orders that effectively make him dictator-in-chief and outlaw all protest? . . . for the benefit of some future president, be it Hillary Clinton or someone else? . . . I don't think so . . .

it's becoming painfully obvious that BushCo intends to orchestrate some kind of crisis that will enable them to cancel the elections and remain in power indefinitely . . . it's also becoming painfully obvious that Congress is not going to do anything to stop them . . . the only thing I can't ffigure out is "Why?" . . .

[laugle]

39. Great post and humorous too!

Go Hill and Bill, "THE DYNAMIC DUO," because we need 2 president's to clean-up the Bush mess!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now go kick some ass!!!!!

[Colobo]

40. "Godess of Peace"? Our candidates are not gods!

[snowbear]

41. Goddess Of Peace = GOP

Right?

You may be on to something..

She's our nominee. GOP wins.


Leaders of the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC)

[Alexander]

46. Hey, that's a good point - the acronym sure fits, doesn't it?

I wonder if mtnsnake meant something more by choosing that acronym...

[Alexander]

44. Anyone calling Hillary the "Goddess of Peace" shouldn't talk about reality.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[mtnsnake]

77. The Goddess will rule with a liberal mind and a caring touch. She will ROCK

Get ready for it, Al!

:hi:

[ShortnFiery]

87. ...

:eyes:

[Alexander]

88. Well, that seals it. You're unhinged.

As if I needed any more evidence. :eyes:

I don't worship any candidate or politician the way you pray at the altar of St. Hillary.

To paraphrase Biden, you need help. I hope you get it. :hi:

[Ethelk2044]

50. We will have another 4 years of Republican rule if she wins

[TheBaldyMan]

54. GoP - how fitting for Hillary

naked shilling, while not forbidden, does open you to ridicule.

[TeamJordan23]

57. lol. nm

[Capn Sunshine]

62. Sorry. More Americans gave Obama money than Hillary. THAT is the ultimate scoreboard.

When will you guys learn that this "Hillary is inevitable" thing is just a lost cause?

[ShortnFiery]

64. No, more like The Mother Superior of "The Order of Self Righteousness of The Immaculate Conception."

:rofl:

[eridani]

65. You mean the Goddess of Invade Countries With Resources to Steal Them?

Only she'd do it 'competently'?

[Imagevision]

66. The people I speak with bekieve Obama kicked Hil's butt bigtime last night...

A poll taken for the 18-30 year age group has Obama ahead by 11 points on Hillary, when Oprah jumps into this I think she may be a factor in Clinton losing.

[illinoisprogressive]

68. You forget that Obama has 'god' on his side and she picked Obama

afterall, she is beginning with a fundraiser.

[Forkboy]

69. K&R for the responses you've gotten.

You sly ole dog,you! :D

[marmar]

70. "Goddess of Peace"

Barbara Lee is running for president?

[Boo Boo]

72. If, by "Goddess of Peace," you mean "Corporate-Tit Sucking Flunky..."

I still think you've overdosed on Kool-Aid.

:silly:

[LBJDemocrat]

79. Does this mean that Clinton will have a cult of personality if elected?

If our party is going to portray Clinton as a "Goddess of Peace" like how the GOP elevated Bush to the status of "Prophet of God/Holy Warrior", I'm going to leave it. Period.

[DutchLiberal]

83. 'Goddess of Peace'? The woman who voted for Iraq war AND for the Military Commissions Act?

Really? :eyes:

[ShortnFiery]

85. I regret that the DLC mistakenly believe that Democrats are as easy to dupe as Republicans.

They keep trying ... you got to give them points on persistence. But they keep trying THE WRONG TACTICS. We're Democrats - you hook us with liberal issues: education, health care and civil rights type issues.

[benny05]

84. Goddess of Peace?

Hardly. Goddess of the DLC, that I buy.

[jmp]

89. Humor is dead.

You killed it! :grr:

[William769]

90. Spot on mtnsnake!

[DemBones DemBones]

92. The Goddess of Peace? The GOP maybe. . . nt