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Bob Geiger Donating Member (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:02 AM
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Snow Perfectly Conveys White House's Total Arrogance


White House Press Secretary Tony Snow, like Scott "The Lyin' King" McClellan before him, does a great job serving up lies every day on behalf of George W. Bush. If the president or Dick Cheney told Snow to go before the media and say that today is actually Christmas, he would do it and treat everyone in the room like idiots for being unaware of that altered reality.

So there was Snow yesterday sounding a lot like a Democrat and detailing the amount of Congressional investigation that's been necessary on the corrupt administration for which he is the mouthpiece, but actually using it to illustrate how the current Congress doesn’t understand the view from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue on their role -- that they only exist to rubber stamp King George's policies.

Here's Snow in his opening statement for the Wednesday press briefing:
"As you probably know, the House Judiciary Committee has just voted along partisan lines to have a criminal contempt of Congress referral against White House legal counsel and the White House Chief of Staff. For our view, this is pathetic. What you have right now is partisanship on Capitol Hill that quite often boils down to insults, insinuations, inquisitions and investigations rather than pursuing the normal business of trying to pass major pieces of legislation, such as appropriations bills, and to try to work in such a way as to demonstrate to the American people that Congress and the White House can work together.

"In any event, it's worth putting this in perspective in terms of the accomplishments of the present Congress. If you take a look at the 110th Congress right now, which had promised to have all of its appropriations bills done this month, here's what we have seen since the beginning of the Congress: More than 300 executive branch investigations or inquiries; 400 requests for documents, interviews, or testimony; we've had more than 550 officials testify; we've had more than 600 oversight hearings; 87,000-plus hours spent responding to oversight requests; and 430,000 pages made available to Congress for oversight. That's pretty significant."
"That's pretty significant," he says.

But what he means is that Congress is wasting their time doing the oversight inherent to that body -- because, as far as Snow is concerned, Congress represents the White House and not the American people -- and that they should spend more time helping Bush in his failed national agenda or, like their GOP predecessors, focusing on issues like Terri Schiavo or flag burning.

And then one intrepid reporter tries to remind Snow of that boring old checks-and-balances thing:
Q: Tony, this country -- if I'm correct from our history books, wasn't this country based on the system of checks and balances? You say they're not doing the people's business, but isn't that the people's business? If there is something in question -- granted, there might have been 400 investigations, but if there was something in question, isn't that the people's business?

Snow: That's a very good question. But what if there isn't anything in question and somebody is going on a --

Q: There are things in question.
Snow then goes on to explain how Congress is only on a partisan "fishing expedition" and that Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are guilty of creating "a toxic atmosphere" in Washington.

I see… We have a Supreme Court-appointed president who has done everything but go up to Capitol Hill and urinate on the Senate floor and has systematically shredded our Constitution, but it's the people in the legislative branch who have polluted the political atmosphere.

And Snow wrapped up soon after one reporter expressed why Congress might be issuing contempt citations -- "you haven't made everybody available. You've made them available if they go without the oath, if they go without the transcript, and if they go in private" -- and another asked about Alberto Gonzales and whether Bush is "troubled by senators questioning his truthfulness and by Specter saying that he doesn't think he has any credibility."

Snow said the president "stands by the Attorney General" and, perhaps to lighten things up, "the president is bothered sometimes by the tone of debate in Washington."

Well, at least he ended on a comic note.

You can read more from Bob at BobGeiger.com.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:07 AM
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1. How much longer can this guy lie for a living? Doesn't he want to live out his days in
truthfulness and contemplation?
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:26 PM
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15. I saw a clip of this last night
I was pissed for about a second, then I saw how bad the guy looks in a short time. He is going to die telling lies for a ass like Bush. What a horrible way to go out and what a horrible legacy to leave.
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:12 AM
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2. Why not lie and obfuscate?
There are rarely any consequences (and so mnay benefits) for those who lie, distort and cover-up at high levels in the Federal Government.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:15 AM
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3. "stands by the Attorney General"
is that less than "stands behind"

is the duck-and-run move just around the corner?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:20 AM
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4. This is one guy he will "stand by" with to the bitter end.
He has no choice. Gonzales is the firewall that keeps Bush from complete criminal exposure.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:25 AM
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6. yeah, I know
gonzo knows where the bodies are buried

they'll just circle the wagons tighter
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:24 AM
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5. Luckily, Tony Snow is...
...gonna die a slow, painful death soon, so I wouldn't worry too much about him.

Yes, I know that's a horrible thing to say, but I don't give a damn. That asshole and his ilk would love to see me dead, so why should I care about him? He's poisoning this once great nation, and projecting that poison onto others. Fuck him.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:25 AM
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7. It is a horrible thing to say. These assholes are killing me too, but let's wish them well. nt
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:28 AM
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10. Sorry, that's noble and all...
but I DON'T wish them well. I want them to get the hell off my pretty little planet! they're ruining the place.
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:08 PM
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14. Isn't that kind of harsh??
I would be satisfied seeing the whole lot of them doing long prison terms for their crimes.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 02:52 PM
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17. Harsh maybe, but they deserve it.
Think how many innocent people have died because of their deliberate lies.

Think how many will have to go through life missing limbs.

Think how many won't get health care or retirement income because they've looted the treasury.

There is no torture of any kind that would be more than they have coming.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:26 AM
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8. Their arrogance has turned to sheer nincompoopedness
nincompoops
all of them
mean arrogant nincompoops
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:27 AM
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9. Two brief articles for Tony.
Not only was that WSJ article a flimsy bit of spin regurgitation (wrapped in a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham, as Woody Allen might say), its premise was easily challenged. Take, for instance, this article from Wednesday that shows that -- yes -- it's actually possible to objectively measure whether or not the Democrats have been able to both conduct oversight and advance a legislative agenda at the same time. (It's pronounced "COM-puh-tenz," and for those who've understandably forgotten what it looks and sounds like, you can actually find it in the dictionary -- it's right smack dab between "compassionate" and "conservative." )

And while it's true that all those votes by this Congress haven't necessarily translated into more laws, it's also worth pointing out why that is. What's holding up -- or, to use another term that was surprisingly more en vogue last year, "obstructing" -- much of the legislation from being enacted (besides the odd Presidential veto or two) is an increasingly petulant and unpopular Republican minority intent on stamping their little feet and gumming up the works anyway they can, with incessant "poison pill" amendments, cloture motions, parliamentary sandbag tactics, and onerous holds on already passed bills.

But hey, all these facts can't compete with the schoolyard logic of the "too much investigatin', not enough legislatin' " meme. After all, it even rhymes. Then again, maybe Messrs. Perez and McKinnon have read the handwriting on the wall and were just trying to demonstrate how well they would fit in with the WSJ's new overlords?
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http://mediamatters.org/altercation/index

AND....

Who Says the House Isn’t Doing Anything?
By Michael Teitelbaum | 6:30 AM; Jul. 11, 2007 | Email This Article
To most Americans, they don’t look very busy. In fact, recent polls put their job performance rating at close to an all-time low.

But the reality — at least in the House — is that federal lawmakers have held more votes on legislation and other matters in the first six months of this year than they did during the entire 2006 session of the Republican-controlled 109th Congress. That was when GOP leaders decided to defer action to the 110th Congress, now controlled by Democrats, on most of the 2006 spending measures.

The House has held 600 roll call votes and six quorum calls so far this year, which puts the chamber well on its way to surpassing the 867 votes and 18 quorum calls Republicans held in 1995 after they assumed control of the House for the first time in 40 years.

Drew Hammill, spokesman for Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said the reason for the high vote totals is simple: Democrats “are delivering on our promises” to be in session more this year.

But there’s another reason: Republicans are trying to slow things down by offering more amendments that require votes.

The Senate, meanwhile, has held about 240 votes this year. That number, combined with the House figure, puts Congress on track to break the all-time record for combined voting — 1,480 — set in 1995 when Republicans controlled both chambers.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/2007/07/who_says_the_house_isnt_doing.html



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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:31 AM
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11. Minutes ago Shummer announced Gonzo will be assigned a special prosecutor so
Tony Snow will revert back to; "I can't comment on the Attorney general because of the ongoing investigation"
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:58 AM
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12. You can tell Tony used to work for Fox.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 12:00 PM
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13. Revealing
I agree. The arrogance and seething hostility of this Snow bastard is astounding. Letting insulting characterizations like "pathetic" slip through while he talks about Congress' alleged partisanship and implied failure to adequately represent the citizens of the U.S. and uphold the Constitution is sardonically amusing. I'm sure that his very language conveys a sanitized version of how the President talks about Congress (and what he perceives to be their proper role) behind closed doors.
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:28 PM
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16. Thanks, Tony Snow, for renewing my interest in alliteration and "I" words...
which, upon further thought, seems to be the perfect letter to represent this administration. Good choice!
Listed below are some of the "I" words that come to mind when trying to characterize you and the gang you've
chosen to spend your time representing. (My personal favorites are in caps, but let me know which ones you like best).


INDECENT INEPT INSULAR
IDIOTIC infringe interloper
INCOHERENT infuriate intolerant
INCOMPLIANT inglorious intolerable
inconsistent INGROWN intractable infliction inbred
incorrigible inhospitable INTRANSIGENT
incredulous INHUMANE INTRUSIVE
indecipherable INJURIOUS INVASIVE
indecorous insane INVALID insecure IRRATIONAL
inefficacious insensible IRRECONCILABLE
inegalitarian insidious IRRESPONSIBLE
ineloquent insincere IRRITANT
INEBRIATE insipid ISOLATED
infamous insistent
inferior INSOLENT
INFERNAL insubstantial
inflated insufficient
INFLEXIBLE INSUFFERABLE

and my all-time favorite "I" word for Alberto, Harriet, Josh, Dickie and Karl: INDICTABLE.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:08 PM
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18. The bigger they are the harder they fall
and Pride cometh before a fall. I'm just waiting for these truisms to come true. I can't think of any bunch of bigger, bolder, smarmy, smart-ass, SOB liars. And how deluded and Proud they are. I always wonder if the shoe were on the other foot and some how the Democrats commandeered the three branches of checks and balances and fucked them all up...if the Repugs would quietly sit on their hands with their mouths shut. That's what they suggest we should be doing. Turn our backs and look the other way. Oh, horseshit, if anything I think we should go after the Bigger-Prideful, smug ass, snooty, criminals, ever harder. They are bigger and bolder than ever and prouder and more snotty than ever and come on Karma...baby needs new shoes.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:17 PM
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19. it amazes me that he's dyng and even so, he continues to lie.
he's not even afraid of god. fool.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:20 PM
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20. I can't watch him
The Faux people make me ill, especially "fair and balanced" which related to his accusation of "Partisanship"

Do they think we don't remember what happened last year???

Still, I liked this part:

"In any event, it's worth putting this in perspective in terms of the accomplishments of the present Congress. If you take a look at the 110th Congress right now, which had promised to have all of its appropriations bills done this month, here's what we have seen since the beginning of the Congress: More than 300 executive branch investigations or inquiries; 400 requests for documents, interviews, or testimony; we've had more than 550 officials testify; we've had more than 600 oversight hearings; 87,000-plus hours spent responding to oversight requests; and 430,000 pages made available to Congress for oversight. That's pretty significant."


I think he shot himself in the foot with that. He was trying to say that Congress isn't handing money to Shrub whenever he decides he needs some(and this is a bad thing to any of us outside the WH?), AND they have DARED to investigate the WH business, and he even says how much of that they are doing. It reminds me a tad of Poppy criticizing Gore by calling him "Ozone Man"

Eww! Bad move! But keep painting yourself into a corner, Mr. Snow.

:bounce:

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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 09:37 AM
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26. "Do they think we don't remember what happened last year???"
What they think is that if they ignore reality it will go away. Just like in Iraq. Ignore the facts on the ground and pretend everything is hunky dorry. Victory is ours if we just imagine it!

Sorry but life doesn't work that way Tony.
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 06:25 PM
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21. I feel a particular empathy for Tony Snow,
in that I am, only now, emerging from my own battle with cancer. Between surgery and chemotherapy there are moments of glaringly stark reality, moments that compel acceptance of certain truths and the rearrangement of priorities. But even in the midst of all the nastiness that can attend chemo, there was never a time, not even in those queasily disoriented moments, when dark became light or lies became truth.

In the copious information about the possible side-effects, there was no mention of an increased tendency to prevarication, there was no mention of likelihood that I'd find myself to be alarmingly intellectually superior to any reporter, any scholar. I was never cautioned to be alert for an escalating compunction to tell you that "there's no smoke," while my own pants were combusting around my legs. So I'm thinking that when Tony Snow came to his moment to choose between truth and its unfortunate alternative, he deliberately chose the latter. Forasmuch as I wish him godspeed in his battle with cancer, he has made it abundantly clear that his choice pre-existed his present condition; he has cast his lot with those for whom the idea of accountability is relegated to lesser mortals.

Just a few moments ago I heard Mr.Snow accuse the Democrats of engaging in acts of character assassination. Were our present circumstances not so dire, I would have laughed at the irony of his defense of those who invented and honed the heinous craft of swiftboating. But his remark served to remind me of a lighter moment over a year ago, when Scott McClellan announced his departure from Bush's service; I had been ready to send Scott a note congratulating him on having his theme song win the Oscar. As it happens, Mr.Snow's ravaged features could well be, in addition to the effects of the treatments, the consequence of his poor choice of profession. The name of that Oscar-winning song, "It's Hard Out Here For a Pimp."

So, godspeed Tony Snow. And may the healing extend to your soul as well as your body.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:32 PM
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22. Love to you
from a survivor.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:40 PM
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24. Ditto...
from another survivor. :pals:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 11:40 PM
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23. that can't be good for his karma
I'd be home enjoying my family if were Tony and not fronting for these bastards.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 09:29 AM
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25. What a legacy to leave to your family.
Tony Snow the defender of the most incompetent, disgraceful and despicable administration in history. He’s a combination of Tokyo Rose and Baghdad Bob. What will his children and grandchildren think 20 years from now when they read about the history of this regime and how Tony’s dying breaths were spent telling lies and shilling for these cretins?

This guy's going to be an asshole until the day he dies. When his inevitable demise comes don't look for any tears or condolences from me. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

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