I like Hillary.

[pnwmom]

Though she's not my top candidate at the moment, I won't have any problem supporting her if she makes it to the general.

And I'm getting more and more frustrated with supporters of other candidates -- including my preferred candidates -- who twist Hillary's positions and even lie about them.

It doesn't make their candidates seem stronger to me at all.

We shouldn't be swiftboating each other's candidates; we have the Rethugs for that.

[Bonobo]

1. I don't like her... But I agree with you.

[pnwmom]

4. Did you happen to read her college letters in the NYT this week?

Funny, self-deprecating, intellectual angst. They were a window into her young soul.

[Bonobo]

9. No, I haven't. I guess you are recommending I do, eh.

[pnwmom]

15. Only if you're interested. But, yeah, I thought they help to humanize her.

She sounded like someone I would have liked to have known in college.

[Crazy Dave]

2. I'm liking Kucinich more this time around but....

I think a Clinton/Edwards ticket would be unstoppable. We'd see another 70/30 landslide election like in '96

[pnwmom]

3. I wonder if Edwards would be willing to run as VP again?

I would hope so. I also think that would be a great ticket.

[Clintonista2]

5. I think Hillary and Edwards would make a great team

They always seem to be in synch together. In response to the original OP, I agree 100%.

[Crazy Dave]

8. Not only that but it would have great longevity for the party

Hillary is capable of and would surely serve two terms and it give Edwards an automatic nomination as the next democratic president for another two terms. A lot has to be fixed that got so screwed up these past seven years with one more still to go. An almost guaranteed sixteen year run of democratic leadership is welcome and necessary.

[ronnykmarshall]

13. That would be very interesting.

I wonder if he would take the VP slot again as well. It would be a first however. To be the VP nominee for two different Presidental candidates.

Hey! It might have happen twice this year when Lieberman runs for the GOP w/ Rudy.

[polichick]

21. He said on Hardball that he didn't like running as veep. nt

[BonnieJW]

6. Rupert Murdock likes her too

[Clintonista2]

10. Hitler was a vegetarian

Therefore, vegetarians are evil.

[Captain Hilts]

11. And a sexually active non-smoker. The Allies were led by smoking meat eaters...

who were not sexually active.

Hell they didn't even dress themselves.
FDR couldn't and Churchill wouldn't!

[Donald Ian Rankin]

24. No, he wasn't. That's just an urban myth.

On the other hand, your analogy works just as well for non-vegetarians.

[YOY]

7. I don't but I'll grudgingly vote for her if I must

Frankly, I think we can do better than someone who voted for this stupid war. I don't believe that tripe about "being fooled". I just can't. I and many others saw through this whole charade for the debacle it would become. It didn't take a rocket scientist.

We can do better. Much better but if that's all that we've got, I'll vote for it and feel a lot more jaded as to the reality of the poltical system in America.

[pnwmom]

16. As I said, she's not my preferred candidate -- but her Iraq vote

was understandable, IMO.

The Democrats in Oct. 2002 were stuck between a rock and a hard place. The choice was to sign onto the compromise IWR in October -- that gave Bush conditional authority (the conditions of which he later ignored) and limited approval to Iraq alone -- or to defeat the compromise IWR and, in January, watch the new Republican Congress approve Bush's preferred version (which had much broader language and would have allowed Bush to attack terrorists in Iran, Iraq, or anywhere else he chose.)

Hillary and some of the other Democrats voted for the compromise resolution because it was already inevitable that Bush would get an IWR, if not in October, 2002, then in January, 2003, once the new Congress came in. And if the Bush-preferred version had been passed, we'd probably already be at war with Iran now.

[Maribelle]

12. Hillary frustrates the wingnut hate pomp continually pushing that democrats are weak

As a senator, she defines the battles against the most corrupt administration in this nation’s history - - and she does all this in ways that characterize her as principled and tough.

So, to offset these manifestations of strength, it seems to me, everything about her is being twisted and turned for calorific values, big heat for purposes that are seemingly emotional and not logical.

[pnwmom]

17. You're right, she is very strong.

I especially liked her answer in the debate to the question of how she was going to deal with all those sexist male leaders!

[woo me with science]

14. I do, too. nt

[beastieboy]

18. I do like Hillary. I think that all sides are being disingenuous with some posts.

Pointing out differences is fine, but distorting the facts to make another candidate look bad just creates resentment.

[sandnsea]

19. Maybe you're wrong

And what people are saying about the Clintons is true. Ever think of that?

[pnwmom]

20. I'm talking about specific things that I know are untrue.

I'm sure there are criticisms people make of her that are valid and fair. I've made them myself.

But I don't like it when Hillary's record, or anyone else's, is twisted by people here for the purposes of an attack. I think we should be playing fair. Let the Repubs do their own dirty work, we don't have to.

[sandnsea]

23. What's untrue?

Maybe you're hearing something different than I have.

[closeupready]

22. I do, too, actually. I don't like her hawkish talk, but nobody's perfect.

I guess I'm willing to give her a chance. :hi: