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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:52 AM Original message |
I get discouraged listening to AAR hosts tear down the Democrats |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. I agree. That is often why I find DU so tiresome. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Yes, that was obvious from that totally obscene and vile rant |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. Well then to good guys better start speaking up and getting |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Then destroy them, let the GOP rebuild. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. All Democrats are not bad. 30 of the 41 the main ones...can be replaced. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Because it's the leaders who suck. Especially Grandman |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Then target them. Don't diss the party as a whole. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. Here, you'd best be hopping on that high horse and giving |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. "high horse"? |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Yep. The majority of the people who call themselves democrats |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. This would be funny, but it is not. Unfair criticism of me. |
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shenmue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
64. Grow up. What did you expect to happen? |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. You need to do a little moving on yourself. And I don't have to |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. which is why I quit listening. Probably why they never really took off... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. We seldom agree. But this time we do. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. A clearly informed opinion from a non-listener |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Most of us support the Democratic Party while criticizing some. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. For example? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. the extreme criticism isn't the big issue. The BIG issue is they do it with millions listening |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Ah, so if they had a smaller audience it would be ok? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. If they were broadcasting to a college town (like their talent level suggests), no... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Yes, they should be careful. The some people might start thinking incorrectly |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. ...or at least start thinking like Nader did in 2000 |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. "I have here in my hand a list of 205 members of the Naderite party..." |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:08 PM Original message |
But we DO know who supported Lieberman (I) in 2006, dont we? Why it was the DLCers, that's who. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Or like your DLC was thinking, when they supported Joe Lieberman (I) in 2006. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. is the DLC on a radio network tearing down Dems of all stripes? I must have missed it. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. One: they weren't tearing down Dems "of all stripes" |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. one, they have been since they came on the air |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #71 |
86. Uh huh. Why don't you show us an example of that |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. You wont see AAR campaigning for & funding a 3rd party like the DLC did, that is for sure. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Yep, that was kinda my point |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. LOL! Check this out if you want more DLC "forgetfulness" (link) |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. The Google is a bit of a help here |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #66 |
91. Not only that- but Harold Ford (DLC) went ON TV & supported Lieberman's 3rd party AFTER the primary. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #58 |
88. No-the DLC doesnt attack DEMS of all stripes, just the ones who oppose Bush/media on issues like... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. On the contrary, oh clueless one |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Naderite...why don't you just come out and call me a communist |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. why try to divert the purpose of the thread? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
67. And that purpose would be...what? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. I dunno. You're the one doing it so you tell me. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. First Naderite, now Rubber/Glue |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
50. You got that right. NT |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
5. DU 'er cali-mary is going to be on at 1 ET. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I like and respect her. |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
9. You know Floridian I believed that for over 15 years, and now I believe its |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Then don't vote Democratic and see what happens. |
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ldf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
107. well, we VOTED democratic in 2006 |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
14. Why I don't listen to AAR so much anymore... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. sigh -- another proponent of blind party loyalty heard from |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Never use the words "blind party loyalty" to us here. "BLIND" |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Anytime you attack people for speaking up rather than addressing their issues |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Then let them say it. You say it. Say it THIRD PARTY... |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Scare tactics that are unworthy of you |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
62. gotta agree. For the most part, AAR comes *this* shy of advocating a third party |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. Who on AAR does this? I listen to it all the time and have never heard it. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #73 |
85. You can't hear it -- it's on the radio in wyldwolf's head |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. I am with you on this |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Nail meet Hammer. What's the best way to quell criticism of your party? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
16. Target the ones selling us out....support the good guys. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
17. Who is Trupiani? He's not on AAR here. NT |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Subbing for Schultz...who is on XM AAR though not AAR |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Ahh, OK. We get Hartmann's show here. NT |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
20. They don't get any biscuits or treats until they learn some new tricks. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Are you including all of them? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. It's getting harder and harder to accept the silence of some of the Democrats |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. All of who? What television show are they on? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
24. Open Left is doing some good work on who to go after to get results... |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
87. Bush Dogs - I saw Matt Stoller on Wash. Journal this morning, and |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
27. hey, we agree on something... |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
81. I'm curious |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
40. Words used against me: "high horse" "blind party loyalty"...talking points |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. Words used against me: "Naderite", "Republican", "high horse" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I did not call you those things. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
42. I am accused of "blind party loyalty" for saying most Democrats are good. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. Nope. Only if you insist that other people must agree with you or shut up. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I said that? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. These meta-arguments are not particularly helpful |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. no worries |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. I know you're joking AK, but many people feel exactly that way |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. Um, I'm not joking. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
48. Send them an email, and tell them why you're turning them off. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
54. What a change. |
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zalinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
57. It's is discouraging when people use the word |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
60. Well I think the dems have been asking for it...passing fisa, no impeachment, |
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shenmue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. What do you mean, nothing happening? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. See, it's this kind of disinformation that makes my blood boil |
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shenmue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
61. Yeah. It's almost like they're Republicans. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #61 |
84. It must be nice to have such a rich fantasy life |
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Blue Hen Buckeye (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
69. The problem is the financing of campaigns.. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #69 |
82. You hit the nail exactly on the head |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
72. Trupiani is an asshole |
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Mutineer (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 01:49 PM Response to Original message |
74. We aren't a perfect party. |
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Larkspur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
78. Who on AAR are you listening too? |
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democratsin08 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
83. war hawks |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
93. Seems that Mr Trupiano subbed for Ed Schultz today |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. Wow....you covered a lot of territory there. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. And accurately, too. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. I have oodles of stuff to prove you wrong. But I don't care anymore. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Like when you say Mr Trupiano appeared on ARR? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. This is my AAR. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Once again: |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. What are you accusing me of doing? Please do it clearly. |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
97. Tearing down Democrats is for GD:P. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
100. Question, define "good guys". n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. Here.... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
105. Just FYI...I listen to AAR afternoons, evenings and week-ends. |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-20-07 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
106. AAR isn't focussed any more |
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