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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:39 PM
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Arabs think OBL Video is a fake too
...
Authenticity doubted

Adel Darwish, political editor of Middle East magazine, told Al Jazeera that he had "doubts" about the authenticity of the tape.

"Any kid these days with an electronic kit can alter images and edit the way that he or she likes," he said on Friday.

"There is no close-up of bin Laden, the beard is thick and black and then there are large segments where the image is a still."

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http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/6802B0DA-6818-4277-A334-1E67824137E4.htm


And then there is this bit of news which I haven't seen in other reports yet...


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Websites shut down

The US said that any video message would be closely scrutinised and that efforts to capture the al-Qaeda continued.

Soon after Washington announced it had the video, all the websites that usually carry statements from al-Qaeda went down and were unaccessible, in an unprecedented shutdown, according to the Associated Press news agency.

The reason for the shutdown was not immediately known.
...

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/80630CF4-9BC4-481C-B6A0-E0E242136377.htm


Spread the word - this won't get into our media any other way.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:26 PM
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1. IT sounds like something rove would have
manufactured. Especially since it dissed democrats. Who knows how many others the republicans with rove's help faked. I really truly believe the one before the 2004 election was also.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:44 PM
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2. Rove or perhaps someone else put this poorly done video together
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 07:04 PM by rosesaylavee
and the meme needs to spread... this is not believable. If they are going to lie to us, let's make them work for it.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 04:56 PM
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30. karen hughes productions
isn't she working on improving that ME image for bfee?
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:49 PM
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3. What did it say to dis the Democrats?
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 02:07 PM
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26. Nothing...
a feeble attempt by slanthead to couple the "hard left" with OBL and the Dems (by inference)...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x52968#53065
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:26 PM
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4. I wonder if we have ever seen the real Osama?

I don't know how we can be sure.
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RFKJrNews Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:42 PM
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5. Boogeyman BinLaden
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 09:44 PM by RFKin2008
Maybe it was just a bit of CIA photoshopping, perhaps a hired actor, but that guy in the tape is *not* Osama binLaden.

Ever notice how they only release tapes like these at moments most opportune to help the Republicans? Like the anniversary of 9/11? Or when the war is going badly and they need a justification to continue the occupation?

Sadly, a lot of stupid people will buy right into this fearmongering. The Arabs are not as dumb as some might think they are. To their credit, they seem to "get" things we Americans miss...like this phony BinLaden tape. They called BS on that before it was even released!
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 04:50 PM
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29. .

Various composite drawings of what Osama bin Laden might like like today.



The smiling teenager in the picture (circled above) looks like he doesn't have a care in the world as he poses with 22 of his brothers and sisters. But the 14-year-old Osama bin Laden soon went from grinning schoolboy to becoming the world's most cold-hearted mass murderer. The bin Laden children lined up next to a pink Cadillac on a trip to Falun, Sweden in 1971.

http://www.unitedjustice.com/osama-bin-laden-family-photo.html


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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:54 PM
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6. I have an Arab friend
who has a strong suspicion that OBL is dead. It's well known he's very ill.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 10:25 AM
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17. Osama's bin dragging around a dialysis machine for years
I think he's been dead since 2002. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2064123641.cms

All the rest of this shit is just smoke and mirrors GOP propaganda.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:48 PM
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25. There are other forms of dialysis that do not require a machine.
I figure if Bin Laden actually did suffer from kidney failure, he would have opted for one of those methods. But, he has/had the means...why not a transplant?

Like you, I figure he's long gone...except when Bush & Co need to resurrect him for another dose of propaganda.

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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 12:16 PM
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34. this is true, he could have had a transplant
maybe he bartered with DeadEye Dick: I get one of your kidneys and you can have my heart.

:shrug:
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:09 PM
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7. What if the video is actually bin Laden, but the AUDIO is not?
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:11 PM
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8. It's amazing no=one has called into question the fact it isn't OBL in the pic's claiming
by the CIA to be the real deal, since when did the CIA/FBI win back credibility after 9-11???
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RFKJrNews Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 05:35 AM
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9. Kick!
K&R for the morning crowd. Let's not let this thread sink like a rock.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 05:51 AM
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10. Alex Jones said OBL would be "rolled out on ice" before the 2004 election.
That's because Alex Jones can predict the future.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 07:05 AM
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11. It doesn't look or sound like the OBL we've come to know.
They must have recast the part. I'm betting it's Stephen Baldwin.:rofl:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:29 AM
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12. That is what I've been waiting the hear...what do Arabs think of the latest OBL tape
...and they say it is a fake! Now the next thing to determine then is who made the tape...follow the money!
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:31 AM
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13. I found it very strange that OBL would express his belief in global warming
I think he was made to sound like those of us in the left by Karl Rove and co.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:10 AM
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19. Limbaugh probably paid to produce the video
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Summer93 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:38 AM
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14. Appearance
I think that Arabs are correct that this is a fake. Wouldn't a man with a graying beard, a longer beard be MORE respected in their world. It is only in the American world that coloring a man's gray hair is now fashionable. I think Osama would command LESS respect for doing to his beard what westerners think is fashionable.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:26 AM
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20. Nose bridge is broader. Remember the video of his firing AK47 ? Check the nose on this guy
in the latest reincarnation. Someone completely different. Or else OBL is doing a 'Spartacus, no I'M Spartacus' routine.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 05:03 PM
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31. I read it's against Islamic tradition to dye your beard
I got into an argument about this today, I remember when Osama was referring to the West as "Crusaders" very anti-western,
somehow I doubt that he would wear gold jewelry (like in the 9-11 boasting) tape or either a dyed beard or a fake beard
in this tape.
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:48 AM
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15. and..why hasn't billionaire Bin Laden got a digital camera by now ?
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:27 AM
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21. It's easier to go to the drug store in Karachi ! eom
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2beToby Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 10:15 AM
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16. I have no reason to believe it's real, and
it seems like if someone were trying to offer fuel to discredit dem's with the video, they have been successful.

Yahoo Questions, Random People Talking
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Pierzin Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 10:49 AM
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18. It's so obviously fake!! How can they take it seriously???
Why would Osama Bin Laden die his beard anyway?
Isn't there something in Islam against that? Really! How can can they take this for real? It doesn't even look like him!
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:47 AM
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22. It's a fake
It doesn't even look like the same person. Funny how it was paraded out right before the surge "progress" report from Shrubbie.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:15 PM
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23. Do NOT miss this post regarding the face analysis of this stooge
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:33 PM
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24. Keeping this Kicked
A definite "must read"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:kick:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 02:12 PM
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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 03:19 PM
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28. Maybe John Stossel could interview the guy that protrayed bin Laden next week.
And find out how much he paid for that beard.
Then John could do an "in depth" investigation into fake beards.

LoL
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 05:23 PM
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32. dheney and rove need to get more skilled with their terrorizing n/t
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 05:28 PM
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33. The evil brat is dead.Period.
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