So Coulter wants Jews to be perfected; Maybe, just maybe, this time...

[dajoki]

its the last straw. I have been sick for awhile and missed some of this story, but I wanted to get in on it. And, so far it appears to be sticking, I don't know for how long, we'll see. Well, anyway here are some updates, I particularly like the "Seinfeld" excuse...

Comment by Steve Rabin, National Jewish Democratic Council (NJDC)
NJDC CHALLENGES GOP CANDIDATES TO CONDEMN COULTER - Oct 15, 2007
http://news.google.com/news?ned=us&ncl=1122005857&hl=en&btclp=1&scoring=r

Today, with all the leading GOP presidential candidates slated to address a Jewish Republican audience on Tuesday (10/16), the National Jewish Democratic Council (NJDC) challenged Republican presidential candidates to publicly condemn Ann Coulter for her anti-Jewish comments and reject any assistance from Ms. Coulter to the RNC or their campaigns.

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Several Republican presidential candidates are slated to attend a Republican Jewish Coalition event in Washington, D.C. on October 16, 2007. In 2006, despite a massive GOP advertising campaign targeting Jewish voters, Republican congressional candidates received the lowest percentage of the Jewish vote in the recorded history of exit polling.

NJDC is circulating an online petition asking news organizations to stop inviting Ms. Coulter on as a guest. The petition is available at http://www.njdc.org/stopcoulter.html

The following is an excerpt from Media Matters for America on Ms. Coulter's comments:

During the October 8 edition of CNBC's The Big Idea, host Donny Deutsch asked right-wing pundit Ann Coulter: "If you had your way ... and your dreams, which are genuine, came true ... what would this country look like?" Coulter responded, "It would look like New York City during the <2004> Republican National Convention. In fact, that's what I think heaven is going to look like." She described the convention as follows: "People were happy. They're Christian. They're tolerant. They defend America." Deutsch then asked, "It would be better if we were all Christian?" to which Coulter responded, "Yes." Later in the discussion, Deutsch said to her: "ou said we should throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians," and Coulter again replied, "Yes." When pressed by Deutsch regarding whether she wanted to be like "the head of Iran" and "wipe Israel off the Earth," Coulter stated: "No, we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say. ... That's what Christianity is. We believe the Old Testament, but ours is more like Federal Express. You have to obey laws."

After a commercial break, Deutsch said that "Ann said she wanted to explain her last comment," and asked her, "So you don't think that was offensive?" Coulter responded: "No. I'm sorry. It is not intended to be. I don't think you should take it that way, but that is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews. We believe the Old Testament. As you know from the Old Testament, God was constantly getting fed up with humans for not being able to live up to all the laws. What Christians believe -- this is just a statement of what the New Testament is -- is that that's why Christ came and died for our sins. Christians believe the Old Testament. You don't believe our testament." Coulter later said: "We consider ourselves perfected Christians. For me to say that for you to become a Christian is to become a perfected Christian is not offensive at all."

Excerpt from: http://mediamatters.org/items/200710100008
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Coulter may have finally crossed own boundaries
By:Anne Reznicek
10/16/07
http://www.purdueexponent.com/index.php/module/Section/section_id/2?module=article&story_id=7748

There's never a quiet day in the neighborhood with Ann Coulter still kicking. Out and about and offending all the people she can, her latest antics came last Monday night on Donny Deutsch's CNBC show, "The Big Idea."

I try to deny acknowledgment of Ann Coulter's existence on all possible levels. I turn the channel when she appears on the news; I ignore stories in the newspapers; I turn my head when I see her books in stores; I reply, "Ann who?" to angry friends ranting about her latest offense. The more attention she gets, the more she talks in her vicious, preposterous cycle.

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Deutsch: Christian - so we should be Christian? It would be better if we were all Christian?

Coulter: Yes.

Deutsch: We should all be Christian?

Coulter: Yes. Would you like to come to church with me, Donny?

Deutsch: So I should not be a Jew, I should be a Christian, and this would be a better place?

Not to be discouraged, Coulter next throws in an absurd racial comment, backing it up with evidence from ... drum-roll please ... a "Seinfeld" episode.

Coulter: ...You walk past a mixed-race couple in New York, and it's like they have a chip on their shoulder. They're just waiting for somebody to say something, as if anybody would. And ...

Deutsch: I don't agree with that. ... Maybe you have the chip looking at them. I see a lot of interracial couples, and I don't see any more or less chips there either way. That's erroneous.

Coulter: No. In fact, there was an entire "Seinfeld" episode about Elaine and her boyfriend dating because they wanted to be a mixed-race couple, so you're lying.

And finally, not even 10 minutes into the interview, Coulter drops the bombshell.

Coulter: ... e just want Jews to be perfected, as they say.

Deutsch: Wow, you didn't really say that, did you?

Coulter: Yes. That is what Christianity is. ... You have to obey laws. We know we're all sinners -

Deutsch: ... hen you say something absurd like that, there's no -

Coulter: What's absurd?

And then something bizarre happens. Instead of maintaining her lofty smirk and infuriating superiority through the ridiculous proclamations like usual, Coulter grows agitated and starts to look - may I dare think it? - upset. Completing losing all "Coulter Cool," she even requests a chance to explain herself after the commercial break that Deutsch called because he was so put off. She gave a feeble attempt to clarify, but the damage had been done.

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It's unfortunate that Coulter is endorsed in the first place. Why do we even indulge in her delusions? It seems even she realized that suggesting the U.S. would be a better place without Jewish people, using "Seinfeld" as concrete evidence of an extraneous point, and declaring that all Jewish people should be "perfected" obliterates any credibility that she may have (but probably never) had. Now, if only the few and proud left on her bandwagon would realize it too.

Anne Reznicek is a junior in the College of Liberal Arts. She can be reached via e-mail at [e-mail].
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The disgrace of Ann Coulter
Jonathan Kay, National Post
Published: Tuesday, October 16, 2007
http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/columnists/story.html?id=2b20b9d6-77e9-4117-a501-0bfd90c71e3d

Last week, during an appearance on the CNBC program The Big Idea, right-wing shock-pundit Ann Coulter described her ideal vision of American society. It was, she said, New York, as the city appeared in the midst of its 2004 Republican national convention: "People were happy. They're Christian. They're tolerant."

When host Donny Deutsch asked the obvious question -- "So it would be better if we were all Christian?" -- Coulter said yes. When Deutsch, who is Jewish, told her he thought this was anti-Semitic, she declared on behalf of Christians: "We just want Jews to be perfected."

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Ann Coulter is an embarrassment. And the people who should be most embarrassed are self-described conservatives. Whenever liberals want to make us look like bigots and mental cases, all they have to do is trot out one of Coulter's whoppers, and the job is done.

This is an 800-word column, so I don't have space to rehash every appalling thing Coulter has written or said. But the highlights include her description of Al Gore ("total fag"), John Edwards ("faggot"), Muslims ("ragheads," "camel jockeys," "jihad monkeys"), her suggestion that said monkeys should stick to "flying carpets" instead of travelling on commercial airlines, and her next-day reaction to 9/11: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."

She also had this charming riff on four women who became activists after losing their husbands in the 9/11 attacks: "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much?How do we know their husbands weren't planning to divorce these harpies? Now that their shelf life is dwindling, they'd better hurry up and appear in Playboy."

[muntrv]

1. I'd agree with you except that fox snooze and even CNN give her air time.

From now on, we need to give her a "Heil Hitler" salute.

[rockymountaindem]

2. Except there is never a last straw with these RW flacks

Most of them have said so much offensive and wrong bullshit you'd think they'd have all been canned years ago, yet here they are. Why should this be any different?

[dajoki]

5. Hope?

:shrug:

[rockymountaindem]

6. I guess

But I'm too cynical for hope these days when it comes to Coulter et. al.

[dajoki]

8. I think I know how you feel...

Their nonsense has been spewed at us for what seems like forever, and no consequences.

[rusty quoin]

3. Last week Glenn Greenwald tried to get the

the Anti-Defamation League and The Simon Wiesenthal Center to denounce:

"Nazis" and "Hitler" -- the Right's casual, trivializing political insults
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/10/01/nazi_insult/
Maybe it will work this time.

[dajoki]

7. Little pRicky...

Santorum loved his Nazi comparisons. Where was the right-wing outrage then?

Similar outrage ensued when Sen. Dick Durbin invoked the behavior of the Nazis in a speech condemning Guantanamo. The very idea of even mentioning Americans and Nazis in the same breath was Despicable, said countless right-wing pundits such as Jonah Goldberg. After all, "The Nazis performed medical experiments on children and gassed whole families" and Hitler thus possesses a "singular villainy." Goldberg protested:

In the circles frequented by the likes of Durbin -- where Howard Dean is a statesman and Michael Moore deserves the Nobel Prize -- evil must automatically be associated with "Nazi."

[MADem]

4. Well, she IS a perfect ass.

That said, I do think she has jumped that old shark...