Watching Biden on This Week

[BootinUp]

He is a terrific legislator, smart man, I just don't see his personality type winning a national GE. Doesn't have the stage presence imho. On the other hand I would have no problem supporting him if he gains support and wins the nom.

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[BootinUp]

3. over the top much? n/t

[gateley]

5. I didn't know that about Biden. Thank you. I may have to reconsider my support. nt

[Froward69]

13. Prove it !!!

I have heard Biden Talk about that very thing. "Our Constitution needs to be restored not later but NOW!!!"~Joe Biden

[Inuca]

18. Silly, uniformed statement

Do you know much about Ron Paul except that he is against the war? For that matter, do you know much about Biden? Rhetorical question, because most obviously you don't.

[Ninja Jordan]

22. What an idiotic statement.

[jillan]

23. And how do you know this? Did you join him in doing this?

[saltpoint]

2. Joe's a good man.

I think his polling numbers rise though the fall into early winter.

[gateley]

4. It's his "personality type" that drew me to him initially. I see him as sincere,

in your face at times, passionate and what you see is what you get. I yearn for that in a leader. I have faith in him that he will tell us the truth and that he's passionate about strengthening America.

That's how it is with all candidates, though - attributes/personalities which attract some supporters, aren't connecting with others, as we can well see here on DU! :toast:

[BootinUp]

6. I know

I like Joe too. I am speculating is all.

[Think82]

48. If you like Joe, why would you make such an idiotic post?

Joe would annihilate any Repub in the general election, more so than any of the other Dem candidates. On here and the Biden blog there are lots and lots of "reformed" repubs who say they want him to be the next president.

[BootinUp]

50. I guess we disagree there n/t

[kstewart33]

7. I agree with you.

Sometimes he talks to much and gets too full of himself, but he's great on foreign policy and Iraq. It would be interesting to have him as president.

[demommom]

8. I like his personality......

but it would not be a good thing if we were all alike.:patriot:

[CrispyQ]

9. I'm voting for him in the primary

& ordered a Biden '08 bumper sticker for my truck. I said I would only send money to Kucinich, but I sent Biden some bucks the other day. He is a great statesman. I think he can get both sides to work together. Here's a great vid in a casual setting:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=385&topic_id=60436

As for stage presence, I think he's got plenty! And, he looks sort of like Max Headroom. ;)

[demommom]

14. Good for you.

Me too!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. The Story About His Reaction To His Wife's Death Was Really Moving

eom

[BootinUp]

11. He doesn't try to hide

his emotions, or not like most politicians anyways. Yes it was.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. I'm Surprised He Hasn't Got More Traction

But he's running against a rock star, the wife of a beloved ,by some, political figure and a former vice presidential candidate...I'm sure he's frustrated but that's why folks with strong resumes like Mark Warner and Evan Bayh didn't get in...

[jillan]

15. I disagree Wes. What I saw was a seasoned, down-to-earth man with great foreign relations

experience that didn't pull any punches. That didn't use doublespeak or triangulation.

He was open, honest, sincere, funny.

I was applauding him when he was discussing Iran.

These are the traits that I want in a President.

[BootinUp]

16. I'm Jim

I never ran for President.

[jillan]

17. Maybe that was a freudian slip, maybe I was wishing Wes was a DUer

or maybe I just need a second cup of coffee this morning.

:blush:

[BootinUp]

25. no problemo

I don't disagree with you about Joe really.

[dtotire]

19. Biden

I was also impressed with him and may endorse him in the primary. He picked up the endorsement of a Des Moines newspaper.

[ginchinchili]

20. My impression is quite different.

He's the one candidate who comes across as both an unrehearsed, truly genuine human being and someone with, not only a vast array of knowledge, but someone who has arranged that knowledge in a way that enables him to express specific, detailed positions. Isn't that what we want in a president? I believe that he has the qualities and characteristics that America longs for but has all but given up on finding. It's so refreshing to have someone like him running for president. I'm by no means a Reagan fan so don't misconstrue my meaning here, but if Biden can get elected, I see him doing for the Democrats what Reagan had done for the Republicans. (Again, before anyone goes there, I'm not comparing Biden to Reagan except for the positive effect he has had on the Republican Party and his ability to win over, shall we call them, Biden Republicans? That's powerful stuff!).

Biden has a strong personal story, confronted with challenges many don't survive, challenges that convey to people that, hey, here's a guy who can understand what I'm going through because he's had to face mountainous challenges himself. Again, powerful stuff.

He's someone who can convince Americans that he can be trusted. One of his strongest selling points is the refreshing contrast between him and Bush. Bush is the antipodes of a straight shooter; Biden is the embodiment. We don't only yearn for that, we need it. I don't want to get into poking holes in the other candidates here, but Biden, imho, comes across as the candidate we can most relate to, and that is a very strong asset in a general campaign.

[jillan]

21. The thing I notice with Biden in comparison with other candidates, is that he has something to say.

It's not all pandering or "cute" talk. He is a straight shooter and tells you what he thinks whether you agree with him or not.

I was just reading an article in the DesMoinesRegister online. People who live in Iowa where talking about a time when people in Iowa were holding signs that said "Impeach Biden" - it was after he voted to fund the manufacturing of MRAPs. When Biden saw those signs, he asked to get out and to talk to the people holding the signs. A few of them later joined Biden's campaign.

THAT is what I want in a leader.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071021/OPINION01/710210337/-1

[gateley]

26. Wow - I never heard that story. I'm not surprised because that's the kind

of guy he is. I honestly don't know if the other candidates would have stopped and spoken to them. Great comments, too! I'm so glad he's getting his message out, slow going though it may be.

[Inuca]

29. Reminds me

of a picture from 04 of Kerry shaking hands and talking to a Bush supporter (a guy with a bUsh tee shirt, remember that?).

[jillan]

39. As a Kerrycrat and a Bidenite.... I see alot of similarities.

There are things about Kerry I like better than Biden, and things about Biden that I like better than Kerry.

But what attracted me to both of them is their statesmanship and their foreign relations experience.
I have a fantasy that Biden gets elected and picks Kerry for his SoS.

[suziedemocrat]

38. Great story!

[CrispyQ]

44. Great story.

I want someone who isn't afraid to listen to opposiing ideas, someone who doesn't dismiss you just because you don't agree.

Zang! I'm a Bidenite!

:hi:

[jillan]

46. Don't forget to stop by the Biden group and say hi.

We are very chatty over there and would love to have another voice.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=404

[gateley]

24. "unrehearsed" - exactly! nt

[Inuca]

27. I wish ....

... somebody with the required time and talents would put together a kind of side-by-side comparison between Biden and HRC. Straightforwardness and desire to actually tackle and explain complex issues vs. obfuscating political talk, taking a side, popular or not, vs. taking both sides, not being willing to commit and making it sound like experience, etc., etc. The contrast would be quite striking. Probably too negative as a campaign ad, I have no idea, but a nice viral ad may do the job...

[jillan]

28. Personally, that is why I am hoping that he breaks out and gets into the first

tier....especially now. Then people will put them side by side.

[Froward69]

33. Again ginchinchili

You articulate much better than I.:thumbsup: :pals:

[ginchinchili]

35. Thanks, but can't always agree with those kind words.

I've been reading your posts, and I think you do great.

[ginnyinWI]

36. I agree

I think that trustworthiness is very important, and he does seem to be someone who says what he means and does what he says he'll do. I'd trust him with the presidency.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember him tearing down other Dems. He disagrees and says so, but doesn't go in for personal attacks and that shows class. Some of the other candidates I could mention like to stab other Dems in the back, and that takes them off my list.

[gateley]

45. He has said he will never badmouth another candidate. He will point out

where he differs on their policies, and explain why he thinks his is better :) but he won't get into name calling and hurling ugly semi-truths. I just admire his SO MUCH!

[suziedemocrat]

37. Yeah, I like him a lot too. I hope he's got a shot, but I don't know. n/t

[Mass]

30. He was excellent on This Week. I guess he probably rattled some people here by explaining

why the Kyl-Lieberman amendment was BAD, but he has a great stage presence.

It is too bad that the entertainment media have taken over the news and that we cannot see what the candidates are and stand for. Sad world indeed.

(and Biden is not my first choice, more like my 4th, but not because of his stage presence).

[Think82]

49. Here's stage presence for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1op8vwF5UA

[rucky]

31. I think he has quite a stage presence.

Good energy, clear communication, plenty of passion. He's a straight shooter and I don't question his sincerity. He doesn't orate, and I know some people like that style, bit neither does Wes Clark. In fact, I would compare Biden's style as being most similar to Clark's out of this crop (maybe a bit more blunt).

[ginchinchili]

34. I've had the same thought

about Biden and Clark. I came around to supporting Clark in 2004 the same way I came to Biden in this election. I weighed what each candidate had to offer, trying to be as objective as possible, and ended up going with Clark and Biden.

Part of my reasoning involved the current, and then current, challenges our nation faces. Who was/is best suited to handle those challenges? We were, and still are, at war. Clark was a 4 star general, extremely intelligent, was not beholden to corporate interests, is a very decent and likable guy, etc, etc. I see Biden in very much the same light. He's got more foreign policy experience than just about anyone around. He's gifted, but doesn't come across as an intellectual who is hard to relate to. He seems to have a lot of the old values that one feels like are evaporating from American society, values like decency, integrity, honesty, and grit. What a shame it would be to pass on such an American for someone else just because they have more money and greater name recognition. Give that money to Biden, allow him to build that name recognition, and we not only have a winner, we have a great Democratic President.

[saltpoint]

32. I hope the voters in the country have perhaps learned a bit of a lesson from

their disastrous choices in the last two elections.

Cheating aside in 2000 and in 2004, likely grievous and extensive though they were, I'm still shaken by the high number of people who believed George W. Bush exhibited leadership qualities. It's unsettling. Who are these damn people? Yet they seem to be all over the place.

At least some of those voters have to wake up and yank their noggins out of their hindends long enough to realize that they are not better off now than they were in January 2000, that the nation is more imperiled than it was in 2000, and that their children's chance for health care, educational satisfaction and true citizenship and social justice depend on their parents' decision in 2008.

That said, I like our field pretty darn well and am fearful and highly distrustful of the Pukes' field.

Of our field, if Joe Biden is our nominee, I'm very enthusiastic about cash, volunteer time, and my vote.

I like the guy a lot. I think he'd make a great president.

And we could use one.

[ginchinchili]

40. Agreed. We have to be wiser.

We can't allow ourselves to be won over for the wrong reasons. We have to learn to peer beyond the surface. Americans now tend to be attracted to shiny objects, not the best climate for choosing the most qualified person to be POTUS. If we want better for ourselves and our country, we have to do better.

[saltpoint]

41. ginchinchili, hi there.

If there's ever a new Constitutional convention, I want you as one of the delegates.

[ginchinchili]

42. LOL, thanks Old Crusoe. I'd want you there beside me.

Funny thing, we'd mostly be trying to restore our Constitution's original intent. Our Founding Fathers were so wonderfully radical. I think they'd be very disappointed to see what's become of the glorious seeds they planted.

[saltpoint]

43. It would appall Madison and Jefferson, that's for sure. And Paine would

have left the country by now.

The bush administrtion has not done well by the Founders. We'll put some more Democrats in charge in 08, especially in the White House, and we'll heal some of these wounds.

[ginchinchili]

47. Absolutely. There's much work to be done.

[PatSeg]

52. "Great president" rather than just a "Good president"

would be nice this time. We are long overdue for a "great president". Being we are in the midst of the "worst presidency" ever, perhaps now is the time to go to the opposite side of that extreme.

[saltpoint]

54. Yes.

And again, yes.

[Think82]

51. ARE YOU F-ING KIDDING ME? watch this right now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1op8vwF5UA

[youthere]

55. I bookmarked that to show my husband tonight.

Thanks for the link Think82.

[ginchinchili]

53. People who do support Sen. Biden, please check this out.

I just posted on the ABC This Week w/George Steph. blog and wanted to encourage everyone to also express your opinions there, regarding the Biden interview and Biden's lack of media coverage. Here's the link: http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/News/story?id=466
Thanks.

[jzodda]

56. You never do know but the cards are stacked against him right now

Hardly any money, not too much media coverage and not doing well in national polls or Iowa and New Hampshire. I like him but his chances are very very slim right now. First lets see him poll in the top 3 in Iowa before he can be considered viable.

[PatSeg]

58. He wouldn't be the first low tiered candidate to pull

up from behind in Iowa, in spite of poor media coverage. Unlike most of the country, Iowa relies more on face-to-face politics and less on the media. Iowa can make or break a candidate. As for Iowa polls, several Iowans here have said that people in Iowa don't make up their mind until toward the end.

[democrat2thecore]

57. The most qualified candidate

It's sad that Biden can be relegated, by the media, to a second or third tier status so they can advance their own candidates. Their circular reasoning for not giving him the coverage is just plain unacceptable. (Not enough money and support for media attention - but how are you supposed to get money and support without media attention?)

[jillan]

60. That has been the question of his whole campaign.

It's like what came first - the chicken or the egg?

Chris Matthews actually jumped on the Biden bus for about a week. It was after Biden broke down on his show.
After the week was over - Matthews went back to non-stop Hillary.

[PatSeg]

61. That was so bizarre

but I guess I wasn't too surprised as I've seen it happen before. Hillary has more money and media, so he follows the crowd.

[Sandaasu]

59. I am very impressed by him

His plan for Iraq is excellent. I've always felt that that's the best way to handle the situation there, myself. He's not my favorite, but I certainly wouldn't complain if he won. In any case, I do hope that he can get others to sign on to his Iraq plan, at least.

[joe_sixpack]

62. No stage presence? compared to whom?

Unless you consider stage presence the amount of time that the media spends focusing on a candidate, who do you think has more than Joe? I'd put Joe up against any of the big 3. I'm tired of platitudes and sound bites and and positions pre-tested by focus groups. Joe appears to me like he's ready to get down to business, not blow smoke up my arse. He's telling me what needs to be done and it ain't all pretty.

[PatSeg]

64. This is "stage presence"

I've never seen a political speech that equals this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU7yhHWuTC4

[jillan]

65. Wow - great post.

You need to stop by more often

[kad7777]

63. OK, here it is

My standard post for Joe.

In these troubled and dire time we live in, Joe Biden, to me, encompasses all that we desperately need for our nation:

1) Intelligence
2) Experience in ALL phases of government
3) Strength
4) Respect from world leaders
5) Diplomacy
6) Command of issues
7) Solutions to problems that face our nation
8) Honesty
9) Integrity
10) Respect and trust from his peers
11) Respect and trust from the people who follow him

Joe Biden certainly meets ALL of the criteria above.

I pray and hope every day that Mr. & Mrs. America, the people of Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina know in their hearts, that if we lose Joe Biden, we'll have lost one of the best Presidents our nation will ever have.

Please watch a video I produced to show my support for Senator Biden. If you support him, please send the link below to family and friends, and ask them to do the same.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OtGCaqOdIJ4