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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:14 PM Original message |
I think Kerry lost the 2004 election |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. Do you really have enough time to engage in that flame war, or are you just dropping a grenade? n/t |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 04:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
142. LOL! |
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Fly by night (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:42 AM Response to Reply #142 |
163. The "joke" is the OP, and s/he's not funny. Rip Van Winkle(s), this is your wake-up call. |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #163 |
174. You don't have to convince me |
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Fly by night (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #174 |
178. I linked with you to show I agree that the OP was laughable ... |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. Lots of people agree |
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NoPasaran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. Not a popular view at DU |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. Popularity and reality are sadly two very different concepts. |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 04:30 AM Response to Reply #20 |
143. But reality is very direct...this administration steals everything not nailed down. |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #143 |
159. straw man |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #159 |
171. But you can make the simpler argument |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #171 |
172. we're not far apart |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #172 |
176. I think we very close |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. As do I... |
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tomreedtoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
67. Well, you could've asked Florida, but it's too late. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think he was one strong VP running mate away from victory. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. I always thought a Kerry / Bob Graham ticket would have been unbeatable. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Maybe Hillary Should Take Bill Nelson |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. LOL, yes they would. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 08:07 AM Response to Reply #26 |
155. I Live In Orlando And Have Met Bill Nelson |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:07 AM Response to Reply #11 |
138. Graham had some health issues... that's why he retired... |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. I agree...Clark as VP would have led to a clear cut victory, steal-proof |
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sandyd921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. Interesting hobby |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. No, you can't |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:22 PM Response to Original message |
6. *snort* |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
7. As he isn't sitting in the White House, I'd have to agree. |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
8. I asked for a brief summary of the evidence right after 2004... |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
9. "I think that Kerry ran one of the worst campaigns ever" |
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rainy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
12. OHIO nt |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Huge Corruption. Exit Polls. n/t |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
14. Caging lists. n/t |
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JackBeck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
23. And for reference points, see: Greg Palast and Tim Griffin. n/t |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
16. My Memory Is Hazy |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
17. I don't know what to believe |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. You're being way too reasonable and logical |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Yeah, I know... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
18. Kerry bombed in the debates |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. "Bombed In The Debates" |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #22 |
41. Debates aren't about that |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. "Bombed In The Debates" My Ass |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
47. Kerry was great in the debates nt |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Agreed |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #61 |
106. Anybody debating against Dubya is going to look strong |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #106 |
123. Kerry is a strong debater |
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Island Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
60. What debates did you watch and what were you smoking when you watched them? n/t |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
90. What debates did you watch? Kerry won all three of them. n/t |
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Sandaasu (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
24. Yes, his campaign wasn't the best, but therewas still something screwy there. |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
25. Agree. |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
28. I Couldn't Think of a More Timely Moment to Piss Off Kerry Fans |
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surfermaw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
29. I think the election was stolen from Gore , However if he |
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jzodda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
30. Kerry fell victim to Swiftboat Scum |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. Kerry thought the media had more than enough truth before the |
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jzodda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
66. Well remember the media had all this info |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #66 |
78. He did speak of it - but there wasn't much coverage |
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jzodda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:28 AM Response to Reply #78 |
135. Kerry has said that he should have responded directly earlier and more forcefully |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 07:23 AM Response to Reply #135 |
150. As a grown up, Kerry had to take responsibility for any |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #150 |
164. Good points....Thanks for taking the time to respond in detail...n/t |
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jzodda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #150 |
166. Very good points all around |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #166 |
169. Thank you for the kind compliment |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:59 PM Response to Reply #66 |
133. It was the VP's job to go on the attack. The presidential candidate is suppose to stay above it all. |
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ileus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
33. GW won...sad day indeed when we couldn't beat an ID10T. |
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Botany (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
34. I live in Ohio |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
65. Very interesting, I never heard that before. n/t |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
35. A reasonable review of the facts shows that the election was stolen |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. It shows that all the Republicans as usual used all of their dirty tactics |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I disagree |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
37. Ohio had lots of problems |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Oh, and Ohio also had a crooked secretary of state |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. That about sums up where I am |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
85. There were other problems in other parts of the country too. And, |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #85 |
94. I agree with some of your points. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #94 |
180. Weak, perhaps, but with fear, the war and the media and bin Laden helping him through the campaign. |
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rainy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
139. How do you explain all the exit polls being wrong only in swing states that |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 06:51 AM Response to Reply #139 |
149. Not trying to explain discrepancies away |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #139 |
160. totally untrue |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
38. Hillary supporters going after Kerry: surprise, surprise.... |
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sampsonblk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
40. Same here on all counts |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
42. Okay, admit it - you are covertly working against Clinton |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Deleted message |
Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. I never liked Hillary that much., so this thread does not make her lose my vote. but |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. sad that you can't see that if hillary's the nom |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Sad that Hillary's supporters start a Kerry bashing thread just for the fun of it... |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Sad that you missed all the Clinton supporters defending Kerry |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. I had forgotten you are a Clinton supporter, one of my favorite, if I can say. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #74 |
91. Why, thank you |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. yes, that is sad but surely you're not affected by |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #52 |
71. "Kerry bashing"? Huh? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #71 |
88. Was that ALL you said? |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. It was an expression |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:34 PM Response to Reply #93 |
118. words have meanings |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. Expressions have meaning too |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:57 PM Response to Reply #120 |
125. Maybe to people still in high school |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 04:33 AM Response to Reply #71 |
144. It's not Kerry bashing, it's just ridiculous. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. You do not need to be a Republican to agree with what |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. deleted |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Excuse me - I don't think that and did not post on that thread |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. You're right. I apologize |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. Yea, please don't make baseless accusations against karynnj!!! |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #76 |
102. Actually, I don't think I do - |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. "admit it - you are covertly working against Clinton" |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #104 |
121. Clearly sarcasm - you ARE a Clinton person |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #121 |
127. Words have meaning you know! |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #76 |
109. I try to make my behavior conform to my moral code |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
96. All very good points. n/t |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
122. Writing in a candidate because of a DU post, lol. n/t |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. I did say - I won't though |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
46. This thread is hillarious. Is Lirwin2 McAuliffe? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Or Carville, Begala, Penn, Wolfson |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. Lirwin2 is anyone w/common sense. Hey, it doesnt take a scholar to know Kerry blew it to an imbecile |
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fedupinBushcountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
68. BS |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Deleted message |
Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. So, we cannot even disagree with you. For the record, Kerry got more votes than any Democratic |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Wait, wait, lemme see if I have your logic straight... |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Reread your OP and get off your high horses. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Ok I reread it. My question remains the same. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Deleted message |
Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. For the record, I really did like Kerry in 2004 |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. So, you liked one of the "worst campaign ever"???? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Ah, the old |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. So you think Kerry ran a good campaign? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Decide. You like him or not. Because saying he had one of the worse campaign ever is not exactly |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. I like Kerry as a politician. I think he ran a horrible campaign. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:55 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. OK. I think there is no hope whatsoever. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Ahh, sweet, sweet, fascism |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
130. The Swift Boaters did not cost him the election -- I have yet to see |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:02 AM Response to Reply #130 |
134. Yes, in fact, Senator Kerry made a strong showing in the debates that brought his numbers up again. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
84. Your opinion isn't fact! |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #68 |
101. WTF does that have to do with Kerry losing to an imbecile. Stop you incessant whining |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Let's just be thankful some of these people aren't politicians |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. Let's also be thankful none of them will ever be future campaign advisors or we'd be sunk again! |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Don't you have an inept Obama campaign to prop up? |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. Gee, I didn't realize Obama had already started a Presidential campaign |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Oh, you want to ignore the fact that one of them will not make it out of the primary, |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Great campaign |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Oh, poor thing, seeing green: |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. Let's put this into perspective: |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #113 |
119. Let me put it this way |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #113 |
124. Kerry had already given the media more proof |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:52 PM Response to Reply #113 |
131. Oh, so you're ignorant of the facts. No wonder you wrote such a piss poor post. n/t |
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fedupinBushcountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #101 |
117. You wouldn't know reality |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
59. So? What about the Democrats' noise machine? |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
62. I have to agree to a certain extent... |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
64. So? You have an opinion that many others do not share.Were you even following the campaign in 04? |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
69. Agreed with every word. nt |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
70. I'm sure Kerry lost |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
79. Off to the greatest page with you. K&R n/t |
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The Doctor. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
92. Sad. Anyone care to explain away why Blackwell violated election laws then? |
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RufusTFirefly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
98. Sorry, but this isn't religion. We're talking about facts here |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. I did read Fooled Again by Mark Crispin Miller |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
107. Which round is this... |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
112. The 2000 election was stolen, the 2004 election was lost by Kerry |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
115. The Conyers Report pushed it to the edge, but... |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
128. You're wrong about his campaign. The very close result refutes your post. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
129. "Worst campaign ever"? You're wrong, and the close result refutes your thoughtless post. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-28-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #129 |
132. Whoops -- I thought my first post failed, so I re-wrote it. n/t |
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Awsi Dooger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:46 AM Response to Reply #132 |
136. Both very good posts |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #136 |
152. I started out ABB, but Kerry won my heart during the general campaign. |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 07:51 AM Response to Reply #136 |
153. Kerry has |
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gmudem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
137. Combination of both |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #137 |
157. I love these posts! |
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MBS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 03:55 AM Response to Original message |
140. I read this thread with frustration and sadness |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 07:44 AM Response to Reply #140 |
151. Thank you for your mature, rational, and |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 08:03 AM Response to Reply #140 |
154. Thank you |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #140 |
170. Wow, this is a fantastic post |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #140 |
177. Good post, but I voted, supported, and donated to Kerry's campaign |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 04:22 AM Response to Original message |
141. Oh sure, and pigs live in trees. |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 05:30 AM Response to Original message |
145. Fun stat: In 47 out of 67 counties in Florida, Bush got more votes than registered Republicans. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 06:21 AM Response to Reply #145 |
148. This argument never made much sense |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #145 |
161. Perry?! is that you? |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
146. So sometime between 2000 and 2004, the GOP suddenly decided to play fair? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 06:13 AM Response to Original message |
147. And you know this how, exactly? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
156. Worst campaigns ever? overstate things much? |
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OnTheOtherHand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #156 |
162. what you said n/t |
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Hawaii Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
158. Sure, Kerry lost Texas, Utah, Idaho, etc. |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
165. The key state was Ohio, and it was stolen... |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
167. The 2004 election was stolen in Ohio - there is no question about it. |
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tiptoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #167 |
175. You're making too much of 56 of 88 Ohio counties' 2004 ballots destroyed against court order... |
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Fly by night (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #167 |
179. And in New Mexico and Nevada and Iowa (and probably Florida). |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
168. I would have to dissagee with you on this one. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-29-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #168 |
173. Even with the just ok campaign run.. |
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