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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:40 PM
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The Guardian: Obama the Comeback Kid Learns to Talk Tough
Obama the comeback kid learns to talk tough
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,2216612,00.html

Clinton now has a fight on her hands as her rival's gloves-off relaunch puts him ahead in Iowa

Paul Harris in New York
Sunday November 25, 2007
The Observer

* snip *

It is working. Obama's support in the key state of Iowa - which votes first in the Democratic presidential nomination race - has moved up strongly. Last week a poll for the Washington Post put Obama four points ahead of Clinton. The news rocked the political pundits who for months had assumed that Clinton's lead there was virtually unassailable.

America is waking up to the fact that Obama's shift in tactics, and some critical missteps by the Clinton campaign, have left the Democratic field open again. 'It is back to being Obama or Hillary. It has tightened up in the last few weeks,' said Professor Bruce Gronbeck, a political specialist at the University of Iowa.

The signs of Obama's new aggression were everywhere last week. He did not hesitate to attack Clinton and defended himself against criticism. In Austin, Texas, he slammed her for being too calculating and cynical to be President, echoing a feeling among many Democrats that the former First Lady has shifted her principles to secure the nomination. 'Triangulating and poll-testing positions ... just won't do,' he said, attacking Democrats '... who think and act and vote like George Bush Republicans'.

His aggressive new stance continued in Iowa and New Hampshire as he descended on those states for a bout of intensive campaigning to shore up his new poll lead. When Clinton criticised Obama for his perceived lack of foreign policy experience, he responded by pointing out Clinton's support for the Iraq invasion. 'I was wondering which world leader told her that we needed to invade Iraq, because that is the sort of conventional thinking that we're going to have to break,' he said at a campaign stop in New Hampshire, which votes a few days after Iowa.

The outbreak of war in the Democratic race was kicked off by a bizarre newspaper column last weekend by conservative journalist Robert Novak. He alleged that Clinton's camp had gathered scandalous information on Obama but had decided not to use it. Obama responded furiously by comparing Clinton's tactics to the controversial 'Swift Boat' dirty tricks campaign that helped derail John Kerry's 2004 presidential bid by questioning his Vietnam record. 'She, of all people, having complained so often about the politics of personal destruction, should move quickly to either stand by or renounce these tactics,' Obama said in a rare official statement that he personally signed. Clinton's camp quickly denied the allegations and accused Obama of naively falling for a Republican trick. He then unexpectedly spoke openly about his use of drugs as a teenager to a group of New Hampshire school pupils, admitting he had made some 'bad decisions'. Obama's hair-trigger response showed that his campaign is now trying to win the race by using naked aggression against rivals as much as simple persuasion of voters.

It has also revealed a deep unease within a previously confident Clinton camp. In recent weeks Clinton has boosted her staffing levels and opened new offices in Iowa, where previously she had looked a runaway winner. The Clinton campaign has also launched a new series of adverts explicitly addressing her rival Democrats' attacks. They have taken on the allegations that she is untrustworthy or unprincipled and portrayed her as the one candidate that the Republican party fears most.

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However, Obama unveiled a tactic last week that could prove just as effective against his rivals as any attack advert. Oprah Winfrey, the queen of US daytime television who is beloved by Americans of every political stripe, has agreed to go on the stump to support him. Her first campaign stop is scheduled to be Iowa.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:43 PM
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1. Oprah Will Destroy Clinton
Oprah's the type that will scream that the Empress has no clothes. And, as a black woman, she won't get hammered for it.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 10:50 PM
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2. interestingly Obama has declined the Oceans 11 guys campaigning for him
Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 10:51 PM by AtomicKitten
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:13 PM
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3. Interesting. Probably Because Oprah Is Totally Flame Proof
Edited on Sat Nov-24-07 11:14 PM by MannyGoldstein
White guys will get bashed for going after Clinton. Oprah won't.

This is gonna be interesting...

:popcorn:
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 12:25 PM
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13. Bats in your belfrey! ... Oprah will NOT go after Hillary!
You are projecting your own hatred of Hillary on Oprah.

Oprah is NOT a Goldstein Girl, just remember that!

nor would she want to be, if she could!

:crazy:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 12:34 PM
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14. Oprah doean't have to go after Hillary, merely tell it like it is will suffice...
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:55 PM
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16. Precisely nt
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 04:00 PM
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18. Telling it like it is? She's Sorry she jumped the "shark" and came out for Obama?..
Then, at least, she would be telling the Truth!

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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:21 AM
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6. Hollywood actors would trivialize Obama's image in Iowa and NH...
Edited on Sun Nov-25-07 01:37 AM by ClarkUSA
And jeopardize crossover votes because most moderate Republican males and right-leaning indie men are not big fans of Hollywood "playboy" types.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 09:32 AM
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11. That doesn't really make much sense to me.
Those two men have supporters of their own who would listen to what they have to say.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:04 PM
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17. I completely agree.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:53 PM
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4. Jumping gee wilikers how can that be.....
How can Obama be the come back kid, when according to the widdle supporters he never was behind...and as for Oprah. Ha ha ha ha....the only reason people flock to her shows, they think they might be there and get one of the new cars, or the prizes she gives away. If she stopped hell the audience would be empty.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-24-07 11:59 PM
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5. Name one person here who said he was never behind...
and re: Oprah, if she campaigned for Hillary you and her other supporters would be ecstatic! How can you pretend that she means nothing just because she's for Obama instead of your girl?
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:29 AM
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8. Obama's grapes are spoiled, I see.
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:26 AM
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7. I love to see Obama fighting bare-knuckled. Finally, he's realized he can't simply Hope and Faith
his way into the White House. He's got to prove he's got an appealing, attractive brand of his own, and he's starting to do so.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:39 AM
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9. One point confuses me
Edited on Sun Nov-25-07 01:39 AM by Tom Rinaldo
"In recent weeks Clinton has boosted her staffing levels and opened new offices in Iowa, where previously she had looked a runaway winner."

When did Clinton look like a runaway winner in Iowa? Possible winner, OK, but runaway winner? In Iowa? Same thing with this quote:

"Obama's support in the key state of Iowa - which votes first in the Democratic presidential nomination race - has moved up strongly. Last week a poll for the Washington Post put Obama four points ahead of Clinton. The news rocked the political pundits who for months had assumed that Clinton's lead there was virtually unassailable."

Can anyone remember any pundit who for months has been assuming that Clinton's lead in Iowa was virtually unassailable?

It seems like the people who wrote this story are mixing apples and oranges, switching back and forth between Clinton's lead in national polls and expectations for her nationally with the situation inside Iowa. Clinton spent most of the last year trailing in Iowa and it has almost always been closely bunched there.

Aside from that they do capture the current spirit of the Obama campaign in Iowa which may have national implications.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 02:24 AM
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10. It's called " media manipulation"
this is how they play us....
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 09:44 AM
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12. CNN anchor: "Obama told the truth - maybe SOME people find that refreshing."
No you stupid idiot dipwad..we want to continue to be lied to, manipulated and played for fools. We want our candidates to LIE TO US !

One of the anchors really did just say that in reference to the STILL ongoing discussion re: Obama's Truthiness about his early years/drug experimentation.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-25-07 01:03 PM
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15. Sad... but true
:evilfrown:
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