Weapons Industry Dumps Republicans, Backs Hillary

[ClarkUSA]

The U.S. arms industry has all but abandoned its traditional allies in the Republican party and is putting their money on Hillary Clinton.

The U.S. arms industry is backing Hillary Clinton for President and has all but abandoned its traditional allies in the Republican party.
Mrs Clinton has also emerged as Wall Street's favourite... So far, Mrs. Clinton has received $52,600 in contributions from individual
arms industry employees. That is more than half the sum given to all Democrats and 60 percent of the total going to Republican
candidates. Election fundraising laws ban individuals from donating more than $4,600 but contributions are often "bundled" to
obtain influence over a candidate.

The arms industry has even deserted the biggest supporter of the Iraq war, Senator John McCain, who is also a member of the armed
services committee and a decorated Vietnam War veteran.

http://www.alternet.org/story/65869/

Way to go, Hillary! The weapons industry is for the warmonger!

[Mythsaje]

1. That's...disturbing. n/t

[ClarkUSA]

4. That's only the tip of the iceberg.

In the oil and gas industry, Clinton is only beat by Guiliani and Romney in lobbyist donations received ($220,000). In terms of total lobbyist dollars
received, Hillary Clinton beats all Democrats and Republicans, at $567,000, well above John McCain, Chris Dodd, Romney, and Guiliani. Obama and
Edwards have taken fewer lobbyist dollars than even Joe Biden or Bill Richardson - an admirable fact for both their campaigns.

Here's the latest breakdown from OpenSecrets.org

Clinton
88% of her monies come from Individual Donations
1% of her money comes from PACs
56% of her PAC monies come from business groups (Approx $326k)
11% of her PAC monies come from labor

Obama

99% of his money comes from Individual Donations
PAC Money=<1% of his campaign <br>26% of his PAC monies come from business groups (only apprx $3k)
0% of his PAC monies come from labor
74% of his PAC monies come from single issue voters (only apprx $9k)

Edwards

99% of his money comes from Individual Donations
PAC Money=<1% of his campaign <br>4% of his PAC monies come rom business groups ($500)
52% from labor (6k)
44% from single issue (5k)

We need to change more than the letter at the bottom of the screen, we need to change the way Washington does business. That begins by cutting
out the lobbyists, and bringing in the people... I forgot to mention the SEC investigation that has opened up into a major Clinton backer InfoUSA, a
database company that donated $1 million dollars to the Clinton library in Arkansas. They also spent $900,000 flying the Clintons to various locations.
They also offered them access to an 80 foot yacht, and a condo in Hawaii.

Link: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/23/225/77659

"Lobbyists are people, too." ~ Hillary Clinton

[JeanGrey]

23. That IS disturbing, but not

surprising. Not to me. Which is why I refuse to support her.

[ClarkUSA]

30. I know, I know...me too.

You're right, of course, but it still makes me want to puke.

[JeanGrey]

42. Sigh. Why do I get the AWFUL feeling that we are being

setup to lose the election by running Hillary............................

[ClarkUSA]

48. That is so true. Why is it that so many don't see that, too?

I have that same sick feeling and I hope Iowans make the right decision.

Do "some" here think that Bush, DeLay, Gingrich, Kristol, and Rove are talking up Clinton because they REALLY think she's so qualified to be president,
so "formidable" an opponent to the eventual GOP nominee when she has the WORST chance of crossover votes and coattails in the general election
because of how polarizing she is? Ugh!

[JeanGrey]

49. They have wanted her to be the nominee all along.

[ClarkUSA]

52. B-I-N-G-O

Why is it you and I see this and many others here but her followers do not? It's very wierd.

[JeanGrey]

58. I've given up.

Next year may be god awful.

[Joanne98]

2. Oh great!

[aquart]

3. What they want is what she wants? Automatically?

They know she's the frontrunner Democrat. They know the Republican is NOT going to win.

If I were an industry that's been very very very bad lately, I would start licking the sensible shoes of the winner damn fast.

On edit: They're not worrying about the war. They are worrying about allocation. We are going to cut weapons systems to build up our armies again. We'll have to. There's no choice. None of them want their weapons cut. So they are moving to build relationships with the incoming administration. I would bet money that the senators from weapon manufacturer states are already sucking up to the blonde lady.

[Truth2Tell]

51. "...to build up our armies again."

You say that as if it's a strategic given upon which all reasonable people could agree.

Cute.

[napi21]

5. I wonder why? I guess it depends on what you mean by the weapons industry.

Is this mith & Wesson, H&R, etc, or is this GE, Rockwell etc? There's a BIG difference, and $52,000 really isn't a lot of money when it comes to "industry support".

[aquart]

9. Allocation.

The Great Bush Giveaway is going to end abruptly and there will have to be brutal cuts in our military weapons systems to rebuild our shattered manpower. Same amount of money, different use.

The Republicans are going to be useless for that, because they won't control the committees and they won't control the White House.

[asdjrocky]

6. Disturbing,

And sadly, expected.

[Tellurian]

10. Hillary's support is coming from industry "employees"

not the administrative end crafting contracts with the government.

They are well aware with a Democrat in the WH War becomes a thing of the past and Peace reigns.

[Hieronymus]

16. Employees that think she'll help them keep their jobs.

[Tellurian]

19. Have a plan in place when the Industry takes a down turn

I'm sure people understand their jobs are at risk when their services are no longer needed, just as it is in any industry.

[IndianaGreen]

21. No downturn with Hillary! She voted for war in Iran, lots of war profiteering there!

And Hillary has been outspoken in her support of the elites in Latin America. I expect Hillary to re-colonize that part of the world by force, if need be.

[ClarkUSA]

24. Hillary For Neverending War = War Profiteers For Hillary = Hillary For War Profiteers + Employees

It's a very simple equation, really.

[Tellurian]

28. Yes, for the simple minded..

[ClarkUSA]

29. Don't talk about yourself that way.

Even if it's true.

[Tellurian]

27. It would be wise of Hillary to limit her recolonization to Indiana.

[asdjrocky]

20. Thank you so much. That really clears things up for me.

[IndianaGreen]

22. All those Raytheon employees and their Patriot missile

which never has worked, and whose only "success" in battle was to shootdown a British combat jet over Iraq.

[PurityOfEssence]

25. Yeah, well you got those quotation marks right. Talk about spinning.

This is ridiculous. If, by chance, they're convinced a Dem will win and that this will guarantee a loss of work for them, they'd be supporting the one least likely to stop the warfarin'.

This is addle-headed knee-jerk partisan raving of epic proportions.

[ClarkUSA]

32. That's what they do - spin like a top - when they're not attacking the messenger.

And I've got the bite marks around my ankles to prove it.

If, by chance, they're convinced a Dem will win and that this will guarantee a loss of work for them, they'd be supporting the one least likely to stop the warfarin'.

Excellent point, but too logical for THAT mind to ever grasp, I'm afraid.

[Sean Stuart]

41. That last statement of yours is coffee-spewing hilarious

I assume you're being facetious. But anyway, even if peace "reigns" if Hillary is elected and ushers in the dawning of the age of Aquarius (tm), there are more ways to spend money on the arms industry than invading other countries. We've spent plenty of billions on unneeded weapons during peacetime that has resulted in spectacular profits for arms corporations. And if you think Hillary won't return the favors of people who have funded her campaign, then you're somehow unaware of the oldest rule in politics.

[ProudDad]

54. You didn't REALLY mean this, did you?

"They are well aware with a Democrat in the WH War becomes a thing of the past and Peace reigns"

That's it!!!

That's the most ridiculous, clueless, idiotic statement I've ever seen posted on DU...


Un-fucking-believable!

[rAVES]

57. lol..... and this helps how? peacful president, layoffs, warmongering shill.. safe.

[Lucinda]

7. Guess they see the writing on the wall....

[babylonsister]

8. From Oct. 31, old and dumb. Give her a break!

And yes, I said that!

[ClarkUSA]

12. Um, this is obviously about Q3 totals. We don't know what Q4 numbers are, yet.

If anything, she has more in her coffers now. Give me a break.

[IndianaGreen]

11. Apparently Hillary is one of those Hamiltonian Democrats, opposed to non-interventionist left

More wars with the Hamiltonian Democrats, as madfloridian's thread indicates:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3756945

[ClarkUSA]

14. That 's about right -- another huge reason not vote for her in the primary.

How many reasons are there now NOT to vote for Hillary? I've lost count.

Thanks for the information and the link, IG. You're good. :thumbsup:

[Colobo]

13. You go, girl!

[dkf]

15. bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran

yuck.

[earth mom]

17. Does anyone need any further evidence that Hillary is a DINO?

:puke: :puke: :puke:

[Carrieyazel]

18. Surprise Surprise. Between her and Lieberman, who needs Repukes?

[ClarkUSA]

33. I can't tell them apart.

In some ways, 2008 is an even more important election than 2004, because it will determine the future path of the Democratic Party as well
as the nation. Do Democrats become as beholden to corporate lobbyists/large bundlers as Republicans or do we beat back the tide of fascist
plutocracy by saying no to special interest PAC and lobbyist influence in elections/government?

Iowans, please choose wisely.

[Double T]

26. Military industrial complex loves the corporate candidate HRC.........

What a surprise. How much proof does one need that HRC is a BIG PART of the PROBLEM, not the Solution?

[liberalla]

31. That's why she's been my last choice for Dem

I just don't trust those corporate connections.

[elizm]

34. No wonder she can't give a straight answer on anything. nt

[Perry Logan]

35. I wonder why this powerful industry would back someone who's "unelectable." Any theories?

[Carrieyazel]

38. They've backed unelectable candidates all the time.

You're assuming these people are more politically savvy than the average voter. They aren't.

[blondie58]

36. this tells us something

and it just reaffirms why I do not choose Hillary. I wish that I lived in Iowa or a state where my vote counted for the primaries. She will just be more of the same and this country needs a change.

[wyldwolf]

37. the industry obviously has faith in Wes Clark... huh CLARKusa?

[IndianaJones]

40. funny, ain't they? nt.

[ClarkUSA]

53. No, the industry is banking on Hillary for more war profits --> Iran

What does Wes Clark have to do with anything?

[bvar22]

39. The Auctioning of a Presidency!

These are NOT contributions.
These are Investments!

Hillary will be their President, not ours.

[AtomicKitten]

43. That seems to fit quite nicely with her Kyl-Lieberman vote.

[Odin2005]

44. Merchants of Death for Hillary!!!

:puke:

[ClarkUSA]

55. That's about right.

It's sickening. God knows what'll happen if she becomes president.

[Tejanocrat]

45. I'm shocked, shocked to find that arms industry contribution to hawkish Hillary is going on in here!

[OhioChick]

46. Well.........

That's one hell of a warning.

[bunnies]

47. As expected.

War profiteers fund the DLC. Of course they will fund its queen.

[gulfcoastliberal]

50. Hillary is NOT a Democat.

She is not a liberal or progressive.

[rAVES]

56. Safe hands.. I've said it all along... she's a fraud, and a shill.