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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:02 PM Original message |
Wait a second, is it true Hillary said universal healthcare by the end of her SECOND term? |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
1. Not only that, but she is assuming she will have |
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Froward69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. or like Joe Biden and start by the end of January '09 |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Exactly. We need a President who will aggressively fight for universal healthcare. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Edwards + Biden has a nice ring to it don't you think? nt |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. It sure does. |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. i'd rather |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Where is the link to the msnbc article? |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Here you go: |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Yup, I did..and I've sent the link on for info verification.. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. You wouldn't be so forgiving if it was Obama or Edwards |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. I don't consider either of those two candidates patrons of the Truth or accuracy.. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Hillary said it. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
57. she said WANT TO....will not even commit to having ..... |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Tellurian, it's true...she said it. With further research, she said it at a debate. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. The question is whether she is leading |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. The only one offering true universal care is Kucinich. Everyone else is borrowing the name. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I tend to agree, however |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
58. hell, Hoover was going in the right direction after the Crash....just too slow.... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. That seems to me to |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. This was before she released her plan. nt |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Ok? But she's said universal healthcare before the end of her second term before then. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I assume that her plan is intended to be implemented in her first term. nt |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:28 PM Original message |
So assuming versus what's she said? Hmmm.... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:33 PM Response to Original message |
39. Healthcare reform will happen |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Saying she'll do health care in her second term is a promise she can't easily keep. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. A Presidential campaign is where you find out |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. I agree about the old quote thing. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Oh, then the info may not have been updated..and is an oversight on the campaign's part |
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midnight armadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
73. I remember hearing her say it |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #4 |
67. Any idea how long a Universal Health Care Plan will take to get through Congress.. |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
3. I really wish I could remember under what circumstances I heard her say that. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I remember it too. Noted it at the time. I think it was a debate. nt |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I think you're right. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #15 |
52. It struck me because she said something similar to |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
5. Even Obama said today, "By the end of my first term", in regards to healthcare.. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
65. Obama lied. His plan isn't universal at all |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
6. Why aren't people looking at the fine print? |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. While you're looking at fine print, however, you need to try to get Edward's to realize |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
38. What is with these candidates mandating that people get coverage? Biden's plan |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Right. People confuse Universal Insurance with Universal Healthcare.. |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. Yeah, Biden mentioned once that his plan would let him implement these |
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DeanDem10 (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. Sounds like a pretty presumptuous quid pro quo |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. And what if she doesn't make it to a second term? Then never? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
64. Don't you understand simple English? |
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Life Long Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
20. She has been working on it for the past 15 years. |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
21. FACT: Upon further research, MSNBC is correct...she said it. |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
60. Bam! That nail got pounded in quick! |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
23. what makes you think she is gonna do anything in her first term? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
25. Feb 21, 2007. I think its safe to say |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Ok provide me the link where she's said otherwise that she'll pass it before then. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I assume her plan is intended for her first term. nt |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Assume vs. what she's said. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #37 |
63. Don't you understand simple English? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
35. I've been doing a little google digging on this. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
36. I don't think she'll end the war in her first term either |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Most Americans don't support the war, BUT... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. cut and run is right wing bullshit n/t |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
43. Anyone can say they can get natl healthcare quickly |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
44. I believe if you watch the speech she said universal health insurance. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Just a few "snips" from Hillary's Universally Mandated Insurance Plan |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
45. It's bizarre how blog readers have noticed this, but bloggers and the news hasn't. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Because at the time she said it |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
48. Your first mistake is to actually believe a Clinton when they say they will do something for you |
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Hieronymus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Yep, sold out. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
54. To Be Fair, here's a few snips from Edward's Universally Mandated Insurance Plan, too |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-09-07 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
56. Like most things, it depends. |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
61. Kick |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
62. Obama doesn't commit to UNIVERSAL health care at all |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 07:33 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Hillary does not commit to AFFORDABLE health care at all |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Bullshit |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. None of them commit to true Universal Health care. |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Hillary has accepted more money from health/insurance/corps than ANY candidate Rep or Dem! |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
70. It really inspires you, doesn't it? |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. well, since hillary said that she would get around to health care by the end of her 2nd term.... |
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